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Buffy allowing Ford to be turned

Discussion in 'Season 2' started by Jules, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. ChaseRules

    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    Sineya
    Not really . Cordy didn't want to be seen with Xander & broke up with him where Anya didn't mind people knowing
    that she was with Xander.
     
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    They still had a relationship. It counts:D
     
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    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    Not really since Cordelia was asamed of being with Xander & dumped him in the worst way. At least that how I saw it.
     
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    Black Thorn
    But they were involved with each other. Even if she was ashamed, they were still a couple at one time. :p
     
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    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    Big difference between being ashamed of him & wanting to marry him .

    That the difference between Corduroy & Anya.
     
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    Yet, it does not negate the fact that they were boyfriend and girlfriend. ;)
     
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    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    Cordelia never said Xander was her boyfriend & don't they both have
    to say it ?
     
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    I think you are really streching here. Don't forget Cordy and Xander were together quite a long time. When she was in the scoobies they were going around as a couple. They kissed in front of Buffy in Dead Man's Party, they were going around together on assignments, she supported Xander at the hospital scenes in Killed by Death and Becoming etc... All this sounds like couple activity to me:D And at the end of BB&B Cordy pretty much annonced it to Harmony and the others.
     
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    Find it hard to argue with what you said .
     
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    Thanks, and don't get me wrong I think Cordy was probably too good for his sorry arse:p But I like them more as a couple than Anya and Xander.
     
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    Thanks . What you just said made me feel better there :D And I agree with you there on Anya & Xander .
     
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    Buffy made a quick decision in an intense situation and I don't judge her for her. The way I see it, she had two options. 1) try tbo go downstairs with Drusilla in tow to grab Ford, but that would mean risking the chance the Spike and his cronies would get the upperhand (which is what would've likely happened) and everybody would die. Or option number 2: she could save the ones she could--the ones who actually wanted to be saved.
     
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    Agreed . Buffy did the right thing . She saved the people who wanted to be saved . Don't forgot Ford wanted to be turned & so the only she
    could have "saved " him is if she locked him up somewhere .
     
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    As has been pointed out, I don't think Buffy really had a choice even if she did want to save him. She'd just knocked him out when Spike and co attacked. All of a sudden you had vampires all over the place killing people at exactly the same moment, Buffy couldn't fight each one in turn because there wouldn't be time. She jumped up and took Drusilla hostage which stopped all the feeding at once and enabled her to get Spike to release all the hostages. However, she now had a room of very annoyed vampires between her and Ford. Ford was adamant on being a vampire so there was no guarantee that he wouldn't try and kill her as well. Buffy would've been needlessly risking her life.

    I do think Buffy was somewhat saddened at leaving Ford behind because of the way she said they would have to come back for the body, but I think she accepted the fact that some people just can't be saved.
     
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    Black Thorn
    Do we know who actually turned Ford? Was it Spike because he made the agreement or would one of his minions done it?
     
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    I'm not sure. Interestingly, on youtube, I came across a Buffy feature about Spike called "Behind Spike" which seems to cover at least the first 4 seasons and in it James Marsters says about how the (paraphrasing) "sucking blood and taking of life is a very sexual thing If you notice guy vampires don't bite guys, they take women victims". We know Spike sired some male vampires in season 7 eg Holden Webster (I think that's his name) but if JM is making that comment when this feature was filmed (It's on season 4's special features) then it implies that Spike didn't sire Ford. Maybe Dru did it? It would be a meal plus she sired Sheila in School Hard.

    For those interested, here's the clip. James makes the "guy vampires don't bite guys" comment around 2.55. Also it's weird to hear JM talk in his natural accent whilst dressed as Spike.
     
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