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Should Angel have just kept the Gem of Amara?

Discussion in 'Season 1' started by Forever Slayer, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Athene

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    Oh I didn't know that until now lol
     
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    If Angel only used the ring when it was absolutely necessary, that wouldn't be the same as strolling along the beach at high noon. That would be, to use your metaphor, concealed carry, or to use my metaphor, leaving it locked up until he needed it. At the worst, he could have Lorne spread the word that he used some kind of glamor that allowed him to walk in daylight for a short time before it collapsed. Given the size of the supernatural community around L A, that would have kept anyone interested in it searching for the wizard, witch, sorcerer, or shaman who produced it for years without ever bothering to even ask Angel.

    And Spike dug the gem up originally from a concealed space, not necessarily a safe one. Simply putting it in a safe deposit box in a bank vault would have made it impossible for any vampire to reach, since banks are only open during the day. ("How would Angel be able to use it that way?" you ask. He wouldn't. But if he had returned the ring to Buffy, as he should have, if he felt incapable of keeping it safe, she most certainly could have. Well, except for weekends and holidays. No plan is flawless. Luckily, Big Bads in the Buffyverse all seemed to plan their final battles on Tuesday nights, and Buffy seemed to always know which Tuesday it would be at least a week beforehand, so she would have had plenty of time to pick it up during banking hours)
     
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    ^^^

    You mean like Buffy protected the Key? That was supposed to be secure but Tara let the cat out of the bag in the altered state of mind Glory had caused. Don't forget, the Gem of Amara was a well-known legend among vampires, that's how Spike knew about it. Giles confirmed that it was a legend known among the vampire community but it had been believed to be just a legend, but the story proves it existed so a lot of vampires would already know about it. A cover story of a glamour may have worked once but when he is wearing the ring, it is visible and some vampire or demon will spread the story that Angel was out in the light and had the Gem of Amara on. And once this was known, some of the richer vampires would employ some form of sorcerer to find out where it is hidden and a courier or thief to pick it out of the vault or wherever it was.
     
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    Which is why I said that Angel could return the ring to Buffy for safekeeping. It would be far safer with her than it ever could be with him, and she would have the option of letting whichever vampire she wanted, or needed, to wear it as the circumstances dictated. Granted, at that time, Angel was the only vampire ally that Buffy had, and no one could have ever guessed that Spike would one day fight on her side, but, still, it would be at least as safe with Buffy keeping it until it was needed as the Scythe, an arguably far more powerful artifact, is. For that matter, Buffy could wear the thing herself until it became necessary to pass it on to Spike or Angel in time of need.
     
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    Technically not true. Superman wears his costume under his Clark Kent suit. When trouble arises, he runs out into the street, takes off his glasses and rips open his shirt to reveal the giant S logo on his chest.

    Spike can be quite determined when he puts his mind to something eg finding the cure for Drusilla, finding the gem of Amara. It could be argued that his infatuation with Buffy was a test of perseverance. Spike can be impulsive and get side-tracked, but if it's something he wants, he normally sticks at it to achieve his goal.
     
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    True, but most of the time, as Clark Kent, his super suit is just an elaborate set of underwear, the equivalent of underwear He doesn't wear the long johns OPENLY. Probably a better metaphor would have been Green Lantern, who wears his ring constantly, but only uses its power when the need arises. Sorry, my comic book references are about 50 years outdated.

    (For example, back when I was reading the comics, Superman's uniform was made from the blankets that he was wrapped in when Jor-El and Lara put him in that rocket to send him to Earth. This foolishness about a force field extending out 1/4 inch from his body, rendering whatever he's wearing indestructible at the time is ridiculous)
     
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    Slayrunt Oh ho! Aren’t you Mr. Dicey Semantics?

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    ive always thought yes... but then again it is a massive target. and also what if angelus turned up again. it would have been cool to see at least one angel task be done in daylight with the ring. good excuse for an interesting episode.
     
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    I was not happy that Angel got rid of the Gem Of Amara and think he should have kept it. If Angel didn't want to wear it he could have put it somewhere where Spike, Angelus, or any other vampire that came looking for it wouldn't have found it. Angel could have told those who worked for him not to let Angelus have it if he came on the scene again. Buffy wanted Angel to have it to protect himself from his enemies, she trusted Angel to keep the ring safe and Buffy didn't want anything to happen to Angel.
     
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