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Teach TC Irish! -- The Thread

Discussion in 'Buffy and Angel International' started by The Chosen, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. The Chosen

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    Okay, I've found the desire to learn the language of the Paddy's. It just seems like a good thing to learn. I mean, I'm Irish and Ireland's always been a place I wanna go. (I know that Irish isn't a thing you HAVE to know to go to Ireland, but it's interesting to me all the same.)

    I already know... (and correct me if I'm wrong)

    Kiniption (panic attack or a tantrum.)
    Eejit (idiot.)
    Muintuir (teacher or tutor.)

    As Keanoite had said in a PM she sent me a few minutes ago, the best place to start is hellos/goodbyes. I'd really appreciate the knowledgeness! :D
     
    Kean: I thought you wanted to learn Irish!! Times a wasting! *taps foot impatiently*
    OccaQuokka: haha i thought eejit was a made up word!
  2. Lyri

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    Are eejit and kiniption actually Irish words? Because I use those words, and I'm not Irish. I always thought they were slang words...maybe I'm wrong, though. :D
     
  3. Tueuse de Vampires

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    How do you pronounce these words you've just named? I would loooove tolearn the basics of another language :)
     
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    LOMA!!! I can't believe you actually started a thread! ok fist off...kiniption is Irish slang as is the other word that rhymes with howl...they are not Gaelige (gael-i-ga)

    So to start off

    HEllo= Dia dhuit...(Dee-ah gwit) it lietrally means God be with you but its used as hello.

    EDIT

    Eejit is Irish slang, it's not actually an Irish language word if you know what I mean?
     
    The Chosen: i went to burger king! *taps foot impatiently in a mocking way* then joyce chimes in and says, "i believe what my not-son is trying to say is, 'Nyah nyah nyah!'"
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    Eejit is pretty much pronounced how it's spelt...E-JIT. Long 'E', short 'JIT'.

    Kiniption is Kin-IP-Shun. At least that's how I say them. Lol.
     
    Kean: Spot on...Gold Star for Lyri!
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    well they basically sound like they look

    eejit...ee + jit

    kiniption...kin+ ip + shone

    Muintuir...Moon + tore
     
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    I always thought "eejit" was a funny mispronunciation of "idiot." And I've seen "conniption"--is that the same thing?

    I read lots of elf-Fantasy so I know words like Sidhe and Tuatha!
     
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    Well eejit and idiot mean the smae thing? I'm not sure if it's origins

    Tuatha...Two=ah is a tribe or small community of people....dates back to Irelands pre-Christianity times

    Sidhe...She;)
     
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    I always want to say Seed-hey cause calling them "shee" just sounds stupid to me.
     
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    Thats one of the hardest things about learning Irish having being brought up speaking English, all your normal inclinations are pretty much thrown out cuz what applies in English is usually the opposite in Irish.

    It's how ost of Irelands place names came about. The English came in and couldn't make head no tail of the Irish language and just Anglized everything.

    Like Dublin would have been known as Dubh Linn ( Dove Lynn) the bh makes a v sound. Of course this was gibberish to the English so they just did away with the H and one of the n's.
     
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    So "Meabh" would be pronounced "Mave"? I know we went through this before but I just wanna make sure lol. Surprisingly, I can easily memorize these words...I guess it's true that I only learn if its about something I'm interested in. (I've been told that before.)

    So what does "sidhe" mean? And did I misread or is it pronounced as "she"?
     
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    yeah exactly, mave like wave but with an M...

    and yes Sidhe is pronounced 'she'...as in Bean Sidhe (Banshee)

    The Sidhe are hugely involved in Irish mythology, they were fairy people, usually peaeful unless you pissed em off:D
     
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    I think Sidhe were mention in one of the Anita Blake books...but as I didn't know how it was pronounced, I was reading Seed-he! lmao
     
    white avenger: The Sidhe are in Hamilton's "Princess Merideth" series. I've never seen it used in the Anita Blake books.
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    I see... (P.S. -- let's incorporate them into Meabh's tale. :D The Sidhe's I mean. And this message goes to Kean.)

    Anywho, I now know "Hello" which I need to memorize. Maybe some basic grammar should come next? How the Irish put words together...like is it different than an English sentence? And now I have to get rid of "eejit" and "kiniption"... LOL! My brain's malfunctioning... Well, not really. I find this a lotta fun, actually.
     
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    Okay, I'm having pronounciation trouble :( I wasn't raised with English, hell, I'm not even all that good at English so I think I keep mixing eveything up.
    does anybody know a site where they explain everything pronounciationy like with the signs they use in dictionaries?
     
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    You had to go and ask for the hard stuff didn't ya!

    Ok so this is why Irish is INCREDIBLY difficult to learn...the grammar is hurrendous

    If I want to say I am happy I would say...Tà¡ à¡thas orm...translated meaning happiness is on me

    give me a really really easy sentence simila to that and I'll try to brake it down for you

    oh and SS I don't know of a site but I'll see what I can come up with
     
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    Okay, how about "I'm not feeling well."
     
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    LMAO! You wanna know how people in Northern Ireland talk? We put our words together in sentences like Yoda from Star Wars. We tend to put the words that should be at the beginningof sentences at the end, for example.

    "He didn't mean to say that, but!"

    :lmao:
     
    The Chosen: LOL! go Yoda talk!
    Kean: or my personal favourite...He's out so he is...love it when I aunt says that!
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    ok I had to change it a wee bit

    Tà¡ pian i mo bholg...there is a pain in my stomach..

    that was too straightforward...I think I'm going to have to have a brainstorm about the best way to put this across...
     
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    Yes, put on your thinking cap, please! I wanna learn the language of the Paddy's!