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The next President is going to be...

Discussion in 'Sunnydale Cemetery' started by The Bronze, Jul 27, 2016.

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  1. white avenger

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    What Trump is saying is that we have the lowest growth rate and the highest unemployment numbers, especially with minorities, since World War 2. The current administration is the most corrupt in out history. Hillary, as Secretary of State, mysteriously "misplaced" 6 billion U S dollars, and sold government contracts to people who contributed huge amounts to the Clinton Foundation, which, in turn, uses only about 10% of its funds for actual charitable work while designating the remainder to internal expenses and salaries. All of Clinton's official emails during her time in office were kept, not in the Government internet, but on her own private server, the contents of which included highly classified material. She did not turn over any of those records for over a year after leaving her post, and only then when Congress Subpoenaed then during an investigation into why 4 Americans, including the U S Ambassador, were killed in an attack on the Embassy in Benghazi. After being ordered to present her files, she deleted and destroyed an estimated 30,000 e mails, on the excuse that they were "personal," and not Government related.

    When testifying before Congress, Clinton said, under oath that she turned over "90 to 95%" of her Government related e mails, but the investigating agents from the FBI said that less than 1% were found.

    Her statements, in public and even under sworn oath, concerning her entire 30 plus year political career have been proven to be, at best, only partially the truth, and far more likely, total lies.

    During the Clintons' time as Governor of Arkansas, Bill and Hillary were highly involved in drug trafficking, and even employed a hit man to have enemies killed.

    Clinton said on several occasions that, when Bill left office, they weren't just broke, but heavily in debt, but, without producing a single product, have amassed a fortune in excess of $125 million, from nothing more than speakers' fees and "gifts." (The king of Saudi Arabia once gave Bill a million dollars as a birthday present)

    And the list goes on and on...

    And again I emphasize, THAT IS WHAT TRUMP SAYS. That is why a lot of people think that he is the best choice for our next President.

    As for myself, I simply believe that he is the better of two bad choices, and voting for either of the independents is the equivalent of not voting at all.

    My major concern about the next President is that he, or she, will be able to nominate 3, or as many as 5, Supreme Court Justices. These men and women are the final authority in determining Constitutional Law, and they have a lifetime appointment. That means that they will have the power to interpret every single law in our country, making changes that could possibly destroy every principal that the United States of America stands for, and every right that its citizen enjoy. That is a power that I simply do not trust Hillary Clinton to exercise responsibly. There is the possibility that Trump MIGHT be bad for the country. With Hillary Clinton, I, and a whole lot of my fellow conservatives, feel that it is a certainty.

    (And now I'm sure that a lot of my liberal friends here are eager to dissect this post, bit by bit, and debunk every point, so I will withdraw)
     
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  2. ILLYRIAN

    ILLYRIAN Druish Pervonian Wizard

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    Is there much chance of getting a reply from someone who is not pro Trump like white avenger is. Can I get a reply from a person who is pro Clinton?
    Also from a person who is not in favour of either of them.
    All I here is what is on the news and several TV shows and they all appear to be anti Trump.
     
  3. white avenger

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    For the record, I prefer to think of myself more as conservative and anti-Clinton than pro-Trump. If I had had my druthers, I would have preferred Ted Cruz as the Republican candidate.
     
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    That is a word I don't feel comfortable with, conservative. The only country I've had experience with being conservative is Britain. As far as I am aware America is Republican or Democrat.
     
  5. Mr. Pole

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    I'd vote Libertarian or Socialist before I would vote Independent. But I think that whole mindset needs to change. That thought process has been drilled into peoples heads so many times; it's why over 160 million people do not even bother voting in the primaries.

    Only 9% of the people eligible to vote in the country are in favor of either Clinton or Trump; you can't use the same old standby that a vote for a third party is not a vote.
     
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    I actually trust Clinton a little more than Trump. Clinton is a centrist instead of a hardcore liberal. Yes, she changed some of her tones in this election but that's due to the pressure of some crazy vocal Sanders fans. I think she would continue her old stance that lasted for a few decades.

    On the other hand, we still know nothing about Trump. His views change every day and no one knows what he actually thinks. I even think it's possible that he's a closet democrat who might enable more progressive agendas than what Clinton ever could.
     
    ILLYRIAN: That could be more right than you think Trump once joined the democrat party.
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    Most likely true, though not, I don't think, to that extreme. Still, it is certainly a fact that there will be more people voting AGAINST one or the other than FOR one, myself included.

    According to Wikileaks, Hillary has admitted that she has a "public" self, which appears to be moderate, and also a "real," or "private" self who is, I think, totally self centered, with no regard for the welfare of either the United States or its people. I particularly am suspicious of her financial dealings, through the Clinton Foundation, with Qatar (?) who finances ISIS, and Saudi Arabia, who, through OPEC, basically controls the U S economy with petrodollars.

    (For those who don't know, President Nixon cut a deal with Saudi Arabia in which OPEC would only take payment for its oil in U S Dollars, thus making our dollars backed up by oil, rather than gold or silver)
     
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    Trump is dangerous for the country. Clinton might have her faults but she at least seems more level headed and less likely to start a nuclear war than Trump is.
     
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    With her wanting amnesty and raising the minimum wage, Clinton is far more dangerous to the country than Trump.
     
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    Trump has said if he loses the vote, he would not accept the result of the election. Basically, aside from all the sexism, racism and god knows what else that Trump has displayed, he's also going to throw a tantrum because he hasn't gotten his own way. Do you really want that kind of person running America?
     
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    So? Who cares? It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. Hell, Gore accepted the defeat then later retracted his acceptance.

    The President doesn't "run" the country. The legislative branch is what really runs the country.
     
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    I'm really not sure about that. Clinton is a total warhawk, probably the biggest in America, and has already been involved in many military conflicts. She's absolutely wet for starting a war with Russia. At least Trump hasn't been an aggressor in pressuring the current president into using greater military force in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, destroying countries and killing women and children. She has more blood on her hands than any. She's a military nut, and the most likely to continue to send troops and start wars for her own business interests.
     
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    Oh my, I knew you'd come over to my side eventually! :D



    Above mentioned quotation has not been tampered with, altered or manipulated in any way, sense or fashion.
     
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  14. Mr. Pole

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    When I read warhawk it made me think of Chickenhawk from the old cartoon but yeah
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    looks very much like Clinton
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 22, 2016 ---
    The one socialist chick running for President is from my hometown. She's actually pretty impressive. The socialist guy from Pittsburgh is not so much... but... cant really expect much out of Pittsburgh now can we?
     
    GwenRaiden: Just needs one of those ridic suits she wears. Speaking of, this made me LOL today, thought you'd appreciate it: https://twitter.com/double_cupp_me/status/789088080426831872
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    Either way
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    I had no idea how close to the mark I was!
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    She just needs a better spray-on tan.
     
    ILLYRIAN: It looks like Trump with long hair, the one on the right I mean.
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    ILLYRIAN: The last one isn't a lie, America has a debt of $17 trillion
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    I like this one better...
     
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    So maybe there should be a new series of Presidential debates, titled

    Who has told the best lies?
     
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    We truly live in an Orwellian world whenever Clinton is described as a liberal. She has no interest in changing anything, except maybe her bank account. To go from Obama to Clinton would be a regression in my eyes. Trump no longer matters. He's so bad there's Republican voters turning to Clinton just because they can't face voting for such a dumbass. She hasn't actually won anyone over, she's just slightly better than Trump. But then that's like saying I'm gonna go lie in this pile of shit because it doesn't smell as bad as the other pile. You're still rolling in shite.
     
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