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Discussion in 'Sunnydale Cemetery' started by vellavu, May 30, 2016.

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  1. vellavu

    vellavu Scooby

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    Black Thorn
    We can't have a proper Inside Out without a bit of negative energy!

    Cordy's sudden change in S01E22 was unnecessary.
     
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    What change of heart are you referring to? Is that when she decides to except her gifts?
     
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    Dolores Professional sleeper

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    It certainly seemed abrupt
     
  4. vellavu

    vellavu Scooby

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    She became less selfish after being touched by Vocah and seeing all visions at once.
     
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    But I suppose the writers would say than that was the point, because it was one of those events which suddenly made her take stock and see things in a different way, it gave her a new sense of purpose. But I do think that had been building in Cordelia's character anyway since late on in her Buffy run, in a way she always had it, it just needed time to come out.
     
  6. ChaseRules

    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    But also it made her change way too much . And in hindsight that was the beginning of the end for her .
     
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    Mr Trick Scooby

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    I agree, to me Cordelia's human qualities are her strong appeal and I think she was already growing as a character as it was. To force magic powers onto her cheapens her and makes her more gimmicky. Although I still like S2 Cordy, its not really till the next couple of seasons after that where she starts to lose her way.
     
    ChaseRules: Say it loud & say it proud :)
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    Anyanka Bunny Killer Jotunheim

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    It was the haircut that did her in.
     
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    Monkey Pants Bored Now

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    Unpopular opinions:
    Oz is one of the best characters
    Cordelia was better on BTVS
    Buffy was a fair amount better than Angel
    Wesley was just as good a character before he went all emo, if not better
    Woz >>>>>>>Tillow
    Fuffy is the best
    ATS Season 4 is not that bad-in fact it's in the top half for me
    Kennedy is badass
    Dawn is badass
    Riley's not that bad
    Neither was Connor
    Buffy is AWESOME!! (why do so many people dislike her?)
    Willow didn't have to become all super powerful
     
    Guy: I loved all-powerful Willow... And Woz never went far enough to interest me as much as Tillow... But Buffy really IS awesome! I'll never understand people who dislike her.
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    Firefly is way over-rated.

    Dollhouse is underrated.
     
    Monkey Pants: I'm starting both right now, and I'm curious on how I'll feel about this.
  11. ChaseRules

    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    I think Fluffy was awesome .

    Also Cordelia was better on BTVS !
     
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    Scooby Corps Fly! Be free, little bird, you defy category!

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    I shipped Wriley for one episode (The Initiative). He was so sweet to Willow and vice versa.

    Spuffy is boring and only possible when both act OOC.

    Spike in BtVS S07-10 is boring due to Spuffy.

    Spike got too much screentime in S07 at the expense of Willow and Xander. Especially Xander. Willow had at least "Same Time, Same Place" and "The Killer In Me" but apart from that not much. Xander had nothing.

    Andrew is redundant, a pain in the ass and nothing else than a waste of space, likewise on screen and on paper. They killed off Anya for him????

    Buffy was wrong in "Empty Places" and lucky in "End Of Days".

    Xander was right with his "kick his ass" lie in "Becoming II". His motives are questionable though.

    Cordelia's hair in AtS "The Shroud of Rhamon" is horrible! I laughed so hard... :p
     
    HowiMetdaSlayer: No offense, but I thought that most people felt the same about Andrew.
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    vellavu Scooby

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    It's not like Anya can be any different. They are both pure one-liner machines without real personalities. At least Andrew only killed one person while Anya killed who knows how many.

    To be fair, Cordelia's hair after Angel S2 is consistently horrible.:D
     
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    That's all true and Anya is by far not my favorite character.

    At least she had history and a development sort of. Andrew stagnates in his self-denying state and screws up over and over again. He just don't get it. He seems to openly refuse to get it. The worst is that others (recently Buffy and Willow in the comics) feel bad and take blame on themselves for his sorry existence.

    Plus, a 1000 years old vengeance demon is simply more interesting than a delusional nerd. :p

    That's true. It's about the contrast in "The Shroud Of Rhamon". The before-after comparison since they had focused on it in the episode. I literally fell from the couch the first time I watched it. The funny thing is that I don't know if it was on purpose or if they really thought it was an improvement.
     
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    Riley is an open-minded character and capable of adopting new ways of thinking.

    I prefer DorkWesley over DarkWesley.

    Angel and Cordelia worked better as friends than lovers.

    Xander's last line about Anya "That's my girl. Always doing the stupid thing" was sweet and romantic and an insult to ANDREW and not Anya.

    The only good Xander ship on the show and comics is Xander/Cordelia. Xander/Anya could have been so interesting considering that Xander was the reason Anya lost her powers and the writers could have taken it to awesome directions, but they were not interested in both characters and that's why it came out boring. Xander/Dawn is just a yawn-fest and they were only paired because they were the normal ones. Break them up and never get them back together, please. Keep Xander single. No more love interests.
     
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    Scooby Corps Fly! Be free, little bird, you defy category!

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    Yes. Never understood the Riley hate.

    Yes! DorkWesley just felt creepy. DarkWesley was in fact creepy.

    To be fair, Angel works best without ANY love interest for me. So basically yes.

    Yes, yes, yes!!!

    I feel fairly indifferent towards Xawn as well but at least it provides for good Xander centered (not so much Dawn centered) plot in S09 & S10. From the two native Sunnydalians (Xander & Willow, both grossly neglected in S07), he got the larger piece of the pie in the main comics, imo.

    Admit it, you just want him for yourself. :p
     
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    Taake Tweedledee Staff Member

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    Harmony should have been killed in Ats s2 (or 3, can't remember anymore when she guest stars)

    The actress who played Eve was terrible and made the character terrible as well.

    Lindsey in season 5 was lame with the exception of two scenes.

    Nina is way underrated. More Nina.

    Ats season 5 didn't lack Cordy at all, it was better for her not being there (for more than one episode.)
     
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    Um how so?
     
    ChaseRules: Because soon after that she started having trouble with her visions .
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    ChaseRules When it comes to dating I the Slayer.

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    I agree with you . I don't see any reason Anya had to die just to save Andrew . Andrew makes you just want to slap him sometimes over & over.

    And I don't see any reason why they changed Cordelia hair myself :confused:
     
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    I love Dawn. I think she is gorgeous, her attitude amuses me, and there's not one thing about her that I'd change. She really reminds me of myself.

    I hated Willow and Oz dating. I totally did not ship them whatsoever.

    I strongly disliked most of season 7 because of the fact that it involved all the potential slayers that Buffy had to teach. Not sure why, that just really did not appeal to me at all.

    I wish Amy had more parts in the show. I think she's wonderful, regardless of how untrustworthy and sketchy she is lol.

    I think Cordelia was way better in Angel.
     
    Guy: Thumbs up for Dawn love! :D
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