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8 Reasons Angel Is Buffy’s BAE (And 8 Reasons It’s Spike)

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16. ANGEL IS HER FIRST LOVE
No matter if the guy was a vampire or a couple hundred years old (or both), you never forget your first love. Angel will always be Buffy’s first, and that’s a bond that can’t ever be broken. Sure, he may have lost his soul, tortured and murdered her friends and was killed (by Buffy) in order to avert the apocalypse, but still, they’ll always be close.

Spike may be Buffy’s current, but he’ll always be compared to the love that taught her what love means, and that’s Angel. The early seasons of the show were the best, and part of that was the sexual tension between Buffy and Angel, and seeing their forbidden relationship develop. It’s also what made their eventual break-up so devastating, and why things would never be the same for Buffy after Angel left.

15. SPIKE IS THE ULTIMATE BAD BOY
Angel may be Buffy’s first, but his stoic, brooding act came off a lot like moping in the shadows. Sometimes a girl just needs a bad boy who knows how to have fun, and Spike definitely fits that bill. The bleach-blonde British Vampire made his debut in the Season 2 episode “School Hard,” and for a good few seasons was a major recurring antagonist for Buffy and the Scooby gang.

It wasn’t until Season 4 when Spike, newly implanted with a chip in his brain that prevented him from committing violence, started to (reluctantly) work for the side of good. As the seasons progressed, Buffy and Spike grew closer, and although their relationship was never exactly healthy, it was intense in a way that Buffy and Angel never were.

14. ANGEL SACRIFICED HIS SOUL FOR BUFFY
When we first learned that Angel wasn’t just a mysterious helper in the shadows, but a full-blown Vampire, the question about why exactly he was helping the good guys was inevitably asked. The answer was due to a Romani spell over a hundred years prior, one that cursed the immortal monster with a soul, so that he can experience the overwhelming guilt for all the terrible acts he committed as the twisted Angelus.

A secondary layer to the curse was that if Angel ever experienced a moment of true happiness, he would lose his soul and return to his evil Vampiric form, something that happened when he and Buffy first spent the night together. Their love was so intense, their happiness so pure, that Angel’s very soul was forfeit. In hindsight, it wasn’t the best idea, but young love cannot be denied.

13. BUFFY MADE SPIKE A BETTER PERSON
When Spike first fell in love with Buffy (although some would say “unhealthy obsession” is more appropriate) he was a full-blown Vampire without a soul or a care in the world. Well, apart from the chip in his head that stopped him from succumbing to his more evil urges that is.

The point is, unlike Angel who’d had his soul returned to him, Spike was still essentially an evil dude when he decided to turn his back on the dark side and work with the Scoobies for the greater good. He always moaned about it and played the part of the reluctant hero, but the truth is that his love for Buffy made him want to be a better person, and it’s that love that led to him fighting (and ultimately dying) for what was right.

12. BUFFY’S LOVE BROUGHT ANGEL BACK FROM THE DEAD
After having his soul torn away from him and reverting to his evil ways, Angel — now Angelus — set about a plan to awaken the demon Acathla and bring about the apocalypse. Buffy saved the day, but only by killing Angelus, her former love, with a sword through the heart. Simultaneously, however, Willow and the rest of the Scooby gang had returned his soul to him, but it was just late enough so that Buffy could do nothing but continue with her plan, murdering Angel to save the world.

Now completely broken, Buffy returned to where Angel died and placed the ring he gave her on the floor as a gesture of her love. Inexplicably, moments later, Angel returned to life, spat out of whatever hell he was in and back in the land of the living, purely because of Buffy’s love.

11. SPIKE AND BUFFY’S PASSION WRECKED A HOUSE
It would be something of an understatement to say that Spike and Buffy’s relationship in Season 6 was an unhealthy one. After Buffy was ripped from a heaven-like afterlife (following her sacrifice at the end of Season 5), she returned with an understandable amount of emotional trauma at now being back in this violent, imperfect world.

How she coped with that trauma was the central focus of Season 6, and one of the ways it manifested was in a self-destructive yet intense relationship with Spike. This powerful bond reached its peak when they literally destroyed an entire house as they made love in the episode “Smashed.” It was a moment where the metaphor for their unhealthy, destructive lust for each other overwhelmed the narrative in a spectacular fashion, and became a defining moment of the season.

10. ANGEL IS TALL, DARK AND HANDSOME
Looks aren’t everything, but when you look as handsome as David Boreanaz, they certainly don’t hurt. When Buffy first laid eyes on Angel back at the beginning of Season 1, there was an instant attraction. His smouldering good looks, mixed with his mysterious nature and touch of the bad boy aesthetic, made him an instant hit with both Buffy and fans everywhere.

He’s the very definition of the tall, dark and handsome love interest, and as his appearances on the show increased, so did our love for the brooding Vampire with a soul. The first season episode “Angel” introduced us fully to his Vampiric past and the curse he was placed under, and while it’s true he used to be evil, his later attempts to right the wrongs of his former life just endeared him to us more.

9. SPIKE REGAINED HIS SOUL FOR BUFFY
Spike’s obsession with Buffy started off extremely creepy. Aside from roleplaying as Vampire/Vampire Slayer with his current squeeze Harmony, Spike also went out of his way to acquire a robot clone of Buffy to use for his own unmentionable needs. As ultimate relationship goals, this guy is not even on the list.

Despite this, they began a relationship over time, although it was mutually destructive. In time, Buffy attempted to call it off, and in retaliation Spike attempted to force himself onto her. This disgusted and horrified Buffy. Disgusted with himself, Spike fled Sunnydale for Africa, where he sought a shaman who could restore his soul in a way to become a better person for Buffy. While this will never make up for his previous deeds, regaining his soul was a big move, and in the years to come, Spike would prove himself a better person to Buffy.

8. ANGEL AND BUFFY SHARED A PERFECT DAY
For fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, it was great news when it was announced that there would be a spin-off show starring Angel, even if that meant he’d no longer be in the main show. The show Angel evolved through its five seasons into a very different experience to Buffy, but excellent in its own right.

One of the best episodes came early in Season 1, called “I Will Remember You,” where Buffy joined Angel in Los Angeles to track down a Mohra Demon. When Angel dealt the killing blow, he was infected by the demon’s blood, which turned him human. This sudden change back to being mortal gave he and Buffy lots to think about, and in response they shared a perfect day and night in what they hoped would be the start of a wonderful future together.

7. SPIKE SACRIFICED HIS LIFE FOR BUFFY
The series finale of Buffy was an action-packed two-parter that saw a few fan favorite characters die (R.I.P Anya, never forget) and ended with the status quo of the entire world changed forever. With the defeat of The First — an apocalyptic evil that birthed all other evil in the world — Buffy had ensured that she was no longer the only Slayer in the world. Instead, any young woman with the potential to become a Slayer, gained those powers instantly, creating an all-new Slayer army.

All of this was only made possible, however, by the sacrifice of Spike, who came to the end of his character arc in the only way he could. In the fight with The First under Sunnydale, the powerful amulet around Spike’s neck explodes with blue flame, channelling sunlight through his soul and destroying the Hellmouth, turning Spike to ash in the process.

6. ANGEL SACRIFICED HIS HUMANITY FOR BUFFY
Following a successful fight with a Mohra demon in the Angel Season 1 episode “I Will Remember You,” the blood of the demon mixes with Angel’s, turning the Vampire with a soul permanently into a human. This change meant that Buffy and Angel could finally be together in a way that they couldn’t be before.

Following a perfect night spent together, this happiness was not meant to last. Angel soon discovered that by becoming human, he had sacrificed any chance he had at continuing his superheroic mission. In order to continue to fight the good fight, he convinced the Oracles to wind back time to before his fight with the Mohra, and before the perfect day he shared with Buffy. This heartbreaking decision was made worse by the fact that only he will ever remember the time they spent together.

5. SPIKE PROTECTED BUFFY’S SISTER WHEN SHE DIED
Spike and Buffy’s relationship may not have gotten off to the best of starts, but over time Spike demonstrated that he truly did care for the Vampire Slayer and the entire Scooby gang, frequently stepping in to help when the situation got especially dire.

His affection for Buffy stretched to her younger sister Dawn, although that affection was in more of a protective big brother way. Despite Buffy not trusting Spike — and despite Spike kidnapping her — Buffy came to understand and respect Spike’s affection after he withstood intense torture in order to protect her and Dawn. Following this, Buffy gave him the duty of being Dawn’s official protector, something that both Xander and Giles objected to. However, it was a duty that Spike carried out especially after Buffy died, providing one of the strangest but most enjoyable bonds to be found on the show.

4. ANGEL ALWAYS PROTECTED HER, EVEN BEFORE THEY MET
Ever since the earliest episodes of the series, Angel had always been there to lend a hand or some cryptic advice to buffy in times of need. He always showed a desire to protect her even though, as the Slayer, she was more than capable of looking after herself.

This desire to protect her stretched back earlier than their first official meeting on the show. In flashbacks it was revealed that he had been observing her ever since she initially gained her powers, becoming increasingly inspired by her spirit and her attitude. His observations of her had so affected him, that it snapped him out of his depression (caused by the fact that he had regained his soul) and encouraged him to move to Sunnydale in order to aid her in her fight against the Master.

3. SPIKE SAW (AND LOVED) BUFFY AT HER WORST
It’s one thing to know and love Buffy during her formative years in Sunnydale, to be there and fight by her side during some of her greatest triumphs like Angel did, but Spike’s relationship came at a very different time in the Slayer’s life. While Spike and Buffy grew closer before she died, after her resurrection at the start of Season 6, their bond took on a whole new turn.

Before their relationship turned toxic and mutually abusive, Buffy found that Spike was the only one she could confide in about her trauma. Her friends returned her to life thinking it was the best thing to do, except they had ripped her out of heaven, leaving her a self destructive mess. Spike’s love for her meant that he stayed by her side, being the one to confide in and comfort her through the hardest time in her life.

2. ANGEL AND BUFFY’S PASSION SPAWNED A UNIVERSE
It’s not many people who can say that their love can give birth to a brand new universe, but that’s exactly what happened between Buffy and Angel in the first Season of the show to take place in comics, after the series had ended.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 8 is filled with highs and lows, and while the season overall was an entertaining one, the convoluted and frankly baffling ending left a bad taste in some people’s mouths. Angel had been manipulated by a higher being into becoming the Big Bad, forcing the universe to gift Buffy with even greater power, until they were both like gods… gods who then proceeded to make love as part of the plans of the real evil being, named Twilight. This doesn’t even cover how bonkers those final issues get, but Buffy and Angel’s love has always been intense.

1. SPIKE AND BUFFY HAVE A MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIP
By now, the canonical comics seasons have gotten to the end of Season 11, and going into that latest season you find a very different status quo for Buffy and the Scoobies. For one thing, Giles is now a teenager following his death at the hands of Angel/Twilight and subsequent resurrection. Then there’s Xander’s relationship with Dawn, something that gets creepier when you remember the age difference in the show.

One thing that’s been fascinating to see, however, is just how Spike and Buffy’s relationship has developed. It’s safe to say that their bond has grown and their love for each other has evolved in a very well written way, to the point where they were both seen to be working hard at an effective and meaningful relationship.
 

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Not really there aren't many people left to have discussions with on this issue. LOL.
But honestly did this writer just like pour through forums and make a list of the top 8 things Bangels and Spuffies defend their ship on? Because that's what it looks like. Nothing all that novel here.
 

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But honestly did this writer just like pour through forums and make a list of the top 8 things Bangels and Spuffies defend their ship on? Because that's what it looks like.
Pretty much. I think the list is let down by the inclusion of the comics seasons but since it's on CBR I expect we'll see more stuff like this in the run-up to June, just to nudge whatever's left of fandom still invested in the comics.
 

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Actually on second thought, no, this list sucks. lol. I can come up with 8 better reasons that Angel is Buffy's BAE and one of them won't be that Angel sacrificed his soul.... no? He didn't? In fact, I will. Let me think on this.
 

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Actually on second thought, no, this list sucks. lol. I can come up with 8 better reasons that Angel is Buffy's BAE and one of them won't be that Angel sacrificed his soul.... no? He didn't? In fact, I will. Let me think on this.
I see the article's reached it's target audience, lol. ;)
 

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Ok my edits on a few of these not all of them are that bad (take note CBR reader that is stalking these boards - maybe):

14. ANGEL SACRIFICED HIS SOUL FOR BUFFY
14. THE LOVE THAT ANGEL AND BUFFY SHARED WAS SO POWERFUL IT TRIGGERED HIS CURSE

Angel receiving Buffy's love and trust was literally the happiest moment in all of Angel's existence. His love for Buffy is such that her acceptance of him was a moment of perfection. And that moment of perfection was enough to trigger the curse.

As Wesley says, “Angel’s moment of true happiness occurred because he was with Buffy. You realize how rare that is – true happiness?"

12. BUFFY’S LOVE BROUGHT ANGEL BACK FROM THE DEAD (there is no canonical evidence of this).
12. BUFFY INSPIRED ANGEL TO FIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT

Angel realized after Amends that he could have his own purpose in this world. That he could fight to make amends. The words that Buffy told him on the hilltop carried Angel through to his life's mission. After Buffy's death, he was reminded that he had to continue to fight because that is what she would want him to do. And almost four years after her speech to him on that hill, Angel repeats this lesson he learned from Buffy to his son, "Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. - It's harsh, and cruel. - But that's why there's us. Champions."

4. ANGEL ALWAYS PROTECTED HER, EVEN BEFORE THEY MET
4. ANGEL TAUGHT BUFFY THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO FIGHT ALONE

Most slayers before Buffy fought and died alone - they led lives of isolation. They were disposable weapons of the Watcher's Council. The Powers sent Angel to help Buffy in her cause and by taking up the fight, Angel taught Buffy she didn't have to do all of this alone she could rely on him and her friends. He was always there as the CBR article says to "lend a hand or some cryptic advice" and later he would help her patrol and investigate. She learned to rely on him, so much so that when Angel's soul was lost, she mentioned that the person she still thought of going to Angel when bad things happened.

Angel and Buffy were both one of a kind when they met. She was "the one girl in all of the world" and he was, at the time, the only "vampire with a soul." They both struggled to belong in their respective worlds but they found solace and a place of belonging with each other. Not just because they loved each other but because they both shared a desire to do good work. Both Buffy and Angel didn't ask for their destinies. But if Buffy could accept her calling, Angel felt he too could make something of his soul. In doing so, they worked together and then even when they were apart, there was an easy understanding that there was someone out there doing the same work. Angel trusted that Buffy could take care of herself (see Home when he tells, W&H that Buffy can take care of herself) and Buffy understood that she could count on Angel to be a second front should she fail in Chosen. They knew they weren't fighting these battles alone.

(Just a side note on Angel's protecting Buffy. Sure there was always a desire to protect each other (that went for both of them by the way including and up to s10 when Buffy tackled and protected Angel from the demon in Old Demons). So that isn't one-sided. People who love each other have an instinct to protect each other. That feeling is amplified in people like Buffy and Angel who make their life's work protecting humankind.)
 

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I'm really tired of the whole debate all over " again" - which vampire ( Angel or Spike ) loves Buffy more. Both mens loves her in a different way. I don't have any desire for a ship battle again. The same apply for - who is the better choice?

This has been going on for too long ( since I was a Teenager ) and maybe I'm too old for that, already.

Both vampires are in a way exactly what Buffy need - in certain stages of life. And even if they aren't together they will love each other without any question.
 

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Surely 'Buffy Made Spike A Better Person' and 'Spike Regained His Soul For Buffy' are basically the same thing...ah, perhaps not.
Many consider the demon better than the man, a bit like those who find Angelus more entertaining than Angel.

And also 'Spike Sacrificed His Life For Buffy' didn't actually happen: that's what the whole 'ILY/NYD' comes in; he's doing it for something bigger than his -somewhat blinkered- love for the slayer.
That's the only reason that scene and his S7 arc works at all; he's sacrificing himself for something bigger- fulfilling a 'soul purpose'.

Spike Saw (And Loved) Buffy At Her Worst: No, that was the other guy, or demon actually.

*sigh* This basically the problem with Spuffy; if we're gonna say 'Spike with a soul is a different man and shouldn't be held accountable for his past actions' (which is a fair point of view and one of which I hold Angel to) then most of these aren't applicable to Spike-With-A-Soul at all.
 

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*sigh* This basically the problem with Spuffy; if we're gonna say 'Spike with a soul is a different man and shouldn't be held accountable for his past actions' (which is a fair point of view and one of which I hold Angel to) then most of these aren't applicable to Spike-With-A-Soul at all.
Exactly, there is a fly in the logic ointment here somewhere.
 

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I hardly agree with a single thing on that list. I just wanted to add a couple of things to the discussion of Spike.

Spike kills himself in Chosen, because he cannot imagine a life for himself once Buffy inevitably dumps him. By killing himself in a flash of light, he hopes to be remembered as the great hero. I don't see much evidence of Spike becoming his own person on BtVS or on AtS. On AtS he is mopey, still obsesses about his past with Dru and Buffy and signs up for the suicide mission without a moments thought.

After Spike retains his soul, he retains all his good qualities. His bad qualities are still there, too, but the soul allows him to temper them.
The term "bae" needs to disappear forever. Just saying.
Yes, we need to start saying 'beau.'
 
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I have to Google it every time I see it used - I can never remember what it's supposed to stand for. To me it is not a valid word or acronym.
It's just too annoying. It always makes me think of Kylie Jenner and those Instagram "models."

Don't even get me STARTED on the term "baby daddy."
 
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Zaddy is the worst of those dumb words.

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The first time I saw it was in association with some celeb or other and the article was describing 'the most woke bae'. I literally shouted "What the f___?!" at the computer,
I was that offended on behalf of the English Language.
 
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Being an English major and a writer, I'd like to slowly TORTURE the person who coined that term.
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