- Nov 20, 2001
- The City of Angels
I think this is refering to me. I should clarify and say that I think that ship has sailed and I'm not 100% convinced it was ever possible, just that I don't beleive he was so different to Faith in terms of evilness.(I'm shocked that at least one person on this board implied that Warren could be redeemed. He's one of the most loathsome characters in the Buffy-verse. Andrew won't even ressurect him.)
Faith tried to frame Buffy for the manslaughter of the assistant Mayor. Faith tried to torture and murder Buffy. She assaulted Xander and was in the process of choking him. We can't be sure if she was going to rape, torture or murder him as she was interrupted but I wouldn't rule any or all of them out. Then we have the person she murdered for The Mayor. The countless people she beat senseless in her Season 4 / Season 1 arcs. Trying to kill Angel. Trying to destroy Sunnydale and her treatment of Riley. She was also in full possession of her soul and nothing is different between then and now. She was like that through choice.Honestly, I just don't see, on any level, how Faith is anything like Warren in terms of evil.
Warren murdered Katrina (after the actual attempted rape), framed Buffy for it (with Jonathan and Andrew's assistance). Betrayed both his friends, tried to murder Buffy and Xander. Did murder Tara (even if it is an accident his intent at Buffy's house was to kill) and felt really good about all of it afterwards.
When Dark Willow came for him he felt fear, and not an ounce of regret.
After he was 'ressurected' or whatever by Amy he willing sided with Twilight to take revenge on Willow and murder countless slayers. He even seemed to be a terrible boyfriend to Amy but whatever, she can have him.
Most importantly Warren had never shown the slightest hint of any regret for the countless bad things that he did. From S6 right through to S8 he's just a wretched human being, and Amy's no slouch in the evil department either.
Many people on these boards consider Warren to be the most evil Big Bad out there, because there's just no justification for anything he did. No magic, no demon-ness, no lack of soul and no mind control/possesion. Warren just is.
I disagree, strongly disagree.I think this is refering to me. I should clarify and say that I think that ship has sailed and I'm not 100% convinced it was ever possible, just that I don't beleive he was so different to Faith in terms of evilness.
I thought the exact same thing, but I hope not.Hey Riley! I wonder if there's a chance the writers are going to go to a very dark place on us, and have him vamped already?