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Anything Wrong With Season 3?

Discussion in 'Season 3' started by thetopher, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. Fool for Buffy

    Fool for Buffy BFF of Sour Patch Kid

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    Sineya
    It's not crazy that you want your entertainment to put you through hell; I think that is often the case with people because they want characters to be as much of an emotional wreck as they are. That's why season 5 is my favorite, because of the roller coaster relationship between Buffy and Dawn, the up and down and back up and back down actions of Spike, and Willow and Xander being in adult relationships and having to deal with actually growing up and making decisions. I think season 6 takes it too far; even though I enjoy it the problems are less relatable and more straight depressing. Season 3 is on the softer side because it doesn't have any emotional gut punches like season 2. Even the sad episodes like Lovers Walk have happy endings. (Woz gets back together and Xander and Cordi reconcile and move on later) And then episodes like Amends and The Prom are very emotional but end up working out, which is a change of pace from the nobody gets a happy ending tone of season 2. Even Buffy and Faith get kind of a bitter sweet ending with the dream scene and the kiss on the head. However, with all that said, season 3 is fantastic.
     
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    Living Dead Boy Joss Is A Very Flawed Boss

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    Good to know I'm not insane in the membrane. Haha. I totally agree with season 3 being fantastic. It's definitely more consistent on a purely objective level. It's just that for all season 6's flaws, it will probably remain my favorite season purely for emotionally illogical reasons. Even though season 5 is right behind it as perhaps my second favorite season, I find that season 6 was an appropriate direction for the show, regardless of how one feels about the execution. Given all the life altering events of season 5 (the entire Dawn debacle, Riley's departure, Joyce's death, Buffy's eventual death), how could the show be what it once? There's certain situations and events that change you drastically, almost like a before said event, and after said event, and some people head into a more positive direction, and others crumble under life's pressure. Regardless of the mistakes the writers have made, the good mostly outweighed the bad to me, and IMHO their heart was in the right place at showing what its like to be stuck in the mud, metaphorically speaking. I relate to it intensely.
     
  3. Cordeliagirl

    Cordeliagirl Oh, Buffy, we're sisters! With different hair.

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    Sineya
    Ok like i say, they should lose Lovers Walk, Wish, Amended, Helpless, Zeppo, Bad girls, Consequence, Doublegandgand, Enemy. Keep Anne, Dead mans party, Faith, Trick, Hope, Beauty and Beast, Band Candy, Reveletion, Gingerbread, Earshot, Prom, Graduation day part 1, Graduation day part 2. Also they shouldnt have Xander and Williow Kissing each other in Homecoming, and playing Footsie and holding books together with their hand in Band Candy episode and Kissing each other in Revelation episode, and cheating with each other on and cordy in lovers walk, that just wrong.
     
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    By itself these encounters wouldn't have been enough to make Angel leave Buffy. But combine them with the couple's own doubts about their relationship and it was only a matter of when it would end not who would break it off.

    I mean, it isn't like these were new problems that just popped up. The pros and cons of Buffy and Angel's relationship had been discussed as far back as season 1 when Buffy first learned Angel was a vampire.
     
  5. crazysoulless

    crazysoulless Scooby

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    In Enemies, Faith kisses Buffy on the lips. It balances kissing Angel, the boyfriend of the girl she's in unrequited love with. It is a Judas & Jesus reference. It is yet another parallel to Spuffy (in Crush, Spike stood back as a dark haired vampire made her unconscious, chained her up, threatened to let that vamp murder her, ranted, but it was all about wanting her).

    In GD#2, Buffy kisses Faith on the lips. It symbolizes Sleeping Beauty. Faith was trapped in a deep death-like sleep but couldn't be awoken with a kiss since The Long Way Home explained the kisser and not the kissee has to be in love, and Buffy wasn't quite there. But she'd feel the need to try, would wonder if it would work.

    Faith living in the Summers basement. Another parallel to Spuffy.

    Showing Buffy's phone calls with Anne. She said she would check in on her.

    Joyce asking Buffy about the MONTHS she had a fulltime job and rented her own apartment. She viewed Buffy's absence as irresponsible and immature instead seeing how capable she is. She probably thought of her living in a college dorm as the first time she was independent.

    Angel has dinner at the Summers house and trying to make small talk with Joyce but she has trouble getting beyond the whole You Had Sex With My Teenage Daughter thing.

    No Giles/Joyce sex. They have zero romantic feelings for each other and did not show signs of wanting to have sex with each other before or after the act.

    Mr. Plack for more episodes. One scene and he became one of my favorites.

    Change Homecoming. That Gorch brother already thought Cordelia was Faith so it wasn't badass that she convinced him she was a tough Slayer. It was impressive on Xena Warrior Princess in the pilot when Gabrielle concinced a giant not to eat her by telling him she was an assassin that was about to pretend to be helpless to get close enough to Xena (who blinded him) to kill her and she'd bring him back some body parts if he lets her go. It was really annoying to see Buffy's friends help Cordelia instead of Buffy, two of which were doing it because they were cheating on their significant other and the third doing it because he goes wherever his cheating girlfriend does.

    Stop trying to up Buffy's girly clothes to contrast with "bad girl" Faith. Buffy wore plenty of black and leather and didn't have matchy shoes & purses before the East Coast Slayer came to town.

    Have Angel & Buffy trying to explore if they can be sexual without going all the way. Maybe Faith catches them intensely fooling around. Heck, maybe Faith catches Buffy masturbating right after leaving Angel's place. Imagine if that's how Fuffy started, Faith offering to take the edge off of Buffy's sexual frustration. Much like Buffy using Spike for sex in s6.
     
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