ChaseRules
When it comes to dating I the Slayer.
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There different ways of having a character leave & they took the messy way . And pointless way as well from what I reading.
I don't think writers are purposefully killing lesbians because they are lesbians, just to make that clear. I think it's more a underlying societal issues. I really wish I could find back a link that I read the other day on the topic, it did an analysis of how many lesbian died vs how many straight people died on TV, and showed some cool stats. I forget the exact numbers, but so far since January this year, something like 10 lesbian characters have died on TV which was equivalent to about 30% of all lesbian characters on TV. Which I don't have to state is no where near the amount of straight people that have died. So clearly there is some form of bias here. I don't think it's done on purpose, but I do think the origin of the bury your gays trope (in which networks would not allow lesbians relationship to be displayed unless it ended in tragedy) is still influencing writing today.I don't think Tara being a lesbian had nothing to do with Joss wanting to kill her off. It is a common theme him killing character's off when their at their happiest. And it had to happen for Willow's transformation to the dark side to be given weight.
Of course, I was just pointing out that in the case of Tara, I don't think it was lesbian bias because Joss has done that to striaght characters, and there were clearly other reasons for him killing Tara off. Not to mention that over the course of his shows he has been one of the most progressive in terms of representing different sexualitie, races, cultures etc.. Those are pretty shocking stats though.I don't think writers are purposefully killing lesbians because they are lesbians, just to make that clear. I think it's more a underlying societal issues. I really wish I could find back a link that I read the other day on the topic, it did an analysis of how many lesbian died vs how many straight people died on TV, and showed some cool stats. I forget the exact numbers, but so far since January this year, something like 10 lesbian characters have died on TV which was equivalent to about 30% of all lesbian characters on TV. Which I don't have to state is no where near the amount of straight people that have died. So clearly there is some form of bias here. I don't think it's done on purpose, but I do think the origin of the bury your gays trope (in which networks would not allow lesbians relationship to be displayed unless it ended in tragedy) is still influencing writing today.
Oh I agree with this. Problem is that this is mostly accurate for most authors. Just recently we had 1 death on the Walking Dead, 1 death on the 100, 1 on Orphan Black (potentially). All of those shows are known to kill lots of characters, so what you said about Joss could also be said about those other writers. Yet it doesn't take away that there is clearly some sort of issue if the percentage is still so high for lesbian deaths. It's not just because of the contribution of homophobic shows, most of the data comes from shows where "anyone can die".Of course, I was just pointing out that in the case of Tara, I don't think it was lesbian bias because Joss has done that to striaght characters, and there were clearly other reasons for him killing Tara off. Not to mention that over the course of his shows he has been one of the most progressive in terms of representing different sexualitie, races, cultures etc.. Those are pretty shocking stats though.
Lexas death was absolutely related to the storyline. It is ridiculous to say it wasn't. It is when Clarke discovers the AI. It's the whole basis of where the commander came from. Leading up to the city of light, plus back to how the world ended and forward beyond earth. It immortalised Lexa as the saviour. Tis funny to read the reactions years after. Such outrage lol. Glad the story will get to end with 5 seasons.the death wasn't related to the storyline.
Taras death was the catalyst needed to bring on Dark Willow, other characters death are used in the same way. It doesn't matter what colour they are or who they sleep with. Look past that. Isn't that the point of diversity on tv?suicidal thoughts over this, because of the lack of representation
It's not that, at least not by itself. All too often writers do like to kill one in a gay relationship just so they can showcase how "their love is real" which is a good motivation. But when it becomes such a tired hat then at best it just becomes lazy writing, and at worst, it gives the impression (however unintentional) that the people telling gays and lesbians that their lives will suck are right.I don’t think this is a lesbian issue. It’s a very common trope for a male leads love interest/wife to be murdered or die which will end up being the driving force behind his motivation to fulfil whatever his quest is. It’s hardly a new homophobic phenomenon
It's negated in the comics where he comes out and it actually helps his development and confronting his crush the guy helps Andrew realise he's being manipulated. It's never shown but I headcanon that the two of them stay together through the next two comic seasons.I think Joss was a bit to blame for that . They killed Tara & next season brought in Kennedy who was hated both for how she acted & in some people minds replacing Tara .
It almost like being gay was a killer there . He also had Buffy & Faith flirt with each other & then made Faith a crazy women . Almost like saying that if you different then things would go bad for you . Just look at Andrew . He acted gay & they had him acting evil & spineless.