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Discussion of 3.02 "That Vision Thing" - Aired 10/1/2011 (WB-US)


To be or not to evil.
May 11, 2019
Note how when Tina is talking to Angel, she keeps talking about how he's not treating her like the other men in the city and he gets caught talking like an age-of-chivalry old guy frequently with women who have learned to expect the worst. He's consistently called on his old-fashioned values by numerous abused female characters. Bethany even goes as far as to note his use of romantic language like "make love" instead of "sex". They consistently accuse him of being too good to be true. He's absolutely being compared to the other men these women come across.
That's exactly it. Angel stands apart. The world around him doesn't touch him.

This made even more clear later on. "We love as though the world..." and "Heroes don't accept the world the way it is." The champion isn't part of that world. He comes into the story to right a wrong.

Buffy is much more a part of the world she protects.

Mr Trick

Jan 9, 2015
London, UK
Think this episode starts the decline of Cordy as a character. Even though I like a lot of story in the episode with Angel having to make a deal with Lilah, but making it clear not to mess with Cordy again. Its the episode where the vision stuff starts taking away from the character and we move further towards Cordy having a special destiny drivel :D To me Cordy works as a grounded human character.
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