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Discussion of 3.20 "A New World" - Aired 5/6/2002 (WB-US)


Mar 7, 2018
York, England (Teabag Central)
Its interesting that there are so many varied opinions on Connor, Holtz and the story arc.

Personally, I think this is a classic episode in what was truly a "golden era" of Angel episodes. Connor's return was mighty, an epic fight scene all in and of itself; even the Groosalugg couldn't best him in mortal combat.

Seasons 1 and 2 of Angel were good, but really I feel they were all culminating towards the second half of season three/first half of season four in terms of character and story depth. Just fascinating, incredibly well performed stuff. And, for the record, I love Vincent Kartheiser as Connor.

Stake fodder

Feb 6, 2021
Caught on a root
Angel pivots pretty quickly to being dad of a teen son, telling him, "You WILL listen to me!" The age-old cry of parents of teens! And the way he just wants Connor to let him in and tell him about his life, such a typical wish of parents of teens, but with so much more poignancy because of the situation. Angel is trying so hard to give Connor space and understanding. He clearly would have been a better dad than Holtz.

I'm sure there will be more on this, but Connor is obviously not just "ordinary" human, but has some vampire reflexes. How much of his hatred of vampires is therefore really self-loathing?

Lilah knows all the right buttons to push with Wesley. When he cavalierly tossed aside of the early-edition Dante, I wanted to shout, "What are you doing? That's a 1200-yo, I mean, 500-yo book!" (Referencing Harmony and her gum!) Lilah's growing on me as an antagonist, but I wish they'd stop filming her legs. Or show the men's legs, for the sake of equality! ;)

Considering that Connor has put a certain amount of effort to get through the rip in reality to kill his father, he gives up pretty easily. But clearly he's capable of handling downtown LA! Cutting off people's ears, though, that's going to cause problems.

I miss cute baby Connor, too! But shows always introduce babies and then want them to grow up right away to be more interesting.
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