two by two, hands of blue
- May 17, 2008
Oh yeah she was definitely always fairly self absorbed like you say, but in S1 & 2 she had a lot more charisma to go with it. Excuse the pun
I strongly dislike Cordelia and I am one of the biggest buffy/angel fans out there. My main reason has to do with her relationships within the show. I think that Buffy and Angel have and will always belong together--they have passion but unconditional love for each other and would die for each other. Now i dont hate Riley and Spike even though they have things with Buffy. I think this is because, and this is hypocritical, there is a huge part of me that wants Angel to go on loving Buffy his whole life and Buffy with Angle despite the multiple problems they have. I think they do it all in the name of love. None of the love interests of Buffy or Angel replicate what they had and quite frankly the whole Angel storyline with Cordelia and Connor makes me so upset and I almost hate Angel for it if i weren't for my intense love for all things Buffy. Moral of the story, my biggest problem with Cordelia is that her and Angel are together and ultimately she was a spoiled brat and Buffy never was and I only want Angel and Buffy together sorry and its very clear that Angel doesn't love Cordelia nearly as much as he loves (present tense because they will go on loving each other for eternity) Buffy.Hey guys! I have a pressing issue on my mind about Cordy, so much so that I created an account on this forum just to get your opinions.
I'm introducing Buffy and Angel to my friends now, and one thing I noticed consistently is that every one of them hates Cordelia in Angel. Granted, they haven't finish watching the series yet, but they are up to the beginning of Season 3 and they still find her annoying and stupid with a massive ego. I shudder to think what they would say once we get to the controversial Cordelia/Connor relationship in Season 4. XD
This is interesting to me because from what I can tell Cordelia is a beloved character in the fandom. So is there anyone around here who hates/does not care for Cordelia and can enlighten me why? Or have you met anyone who does not like her?
Does she though? They just took different paths. I don't find anything immature about the Scoobies. Well of course at times there are, but then there is with every character worth their salt. Giving Cordy the visions was a mistake IMO. Felt too much like a gimmick, and was the writers trying too hard to make her dark.Cordelia is one of my two favorite characters on Angel (the other being Wesley) so, no, I don't hate her. I loved her on Buffy, but prefer her on Angel, she was just a better character there, imo, and used more organically then simply to forward a certain plot.
Also, about those talking about her maturing too early and it not being believable, this is what I feel. Cordelia wasn't the Scoobies, she moved to new city where she didn't know anyone, she wasn't in college, she wasn't still hanging out with her high school friends, she was living in poverty and trying to cling to her old, bitchy self, hence the occasional fancy celeb parties and such. Then she almost dies, again, Angel comes back into her life and she, like with Buffy, hitches her wagon to him so she won't die. This, coupled with the onslaught of visions in the S1 finale, is why I find it wholly believable that she matured much more quickly than the Scoobies.
This for me. I haven't watched all of Angel, because of Cordelia. lol I couldn't stand her on BTVS. She had some amusing or sympathetic moments, but that's the thing. They were moments, while she was still an overall hateful character. So knowing she stars on Angel, and eventually gets turned into his one true love and some kind of Goddess, just eh on that.I watched Angel while it was on-air, but didn't see Buffy until 2015. (So, I knew VERY little about the history of the characters prior to Angel) Therefore, my first proper introduction to Cordy was on Angel...I didn't hate her, just thought she was somewhat entertaining and an airhead.
However, when I was given the Buffy box set for Christmas 2015, I had the chance to dive right in to the series. And you know what? I despised Cordelia. What a bitch. She was a snide, mean, and hateful little cow. The way she continually insulted Xander, Willow and anyone else she felt better than made me sick! So whenever something bad happened to her, I was cool with it.
Not sure if the forced acting was because this is around the time that her and Joss had their falling out, and it might have been that CC's heart wasn't in it so was her way of acting out. Or might just be that sort of scene isn't her strong suit.This for me. I haven't watched all of Angel, because of Cordelia. lol I couldn't stand her on BTVS. She had some amusing or sympathetic moments, but that's the thing. They were moments, while she was still an overall hateful character. So knowing she stars on Angel, and eventually gets turned into his one true love and some kind of Goddess, just eh on that.
And the scene I watched here. Cordelia comes in at the 4:10 min mark.
Idk if it's intentional or not, but C.C.'s acting is so forced, I wanna strangle her here. lol
Bliss? AS IN BLISS?!
Good Lord. lol I CC is a beautiful woman, but I think she would work better on a light-hearted comedy show. She had that comedic acting that sometimes is out of place in non-comedy shows, especially when there's constant threats and dark elements. Maybe she got better. I'm not sure. Again, I watched very little of Angel due to not caring for Cordelia.
Noooo no no no. No. There is an argument to be made (not by me - I provide the counter-argument and I believe I have a valid position) that Angel loved Cordelia but certainly, she was never referred to as his "one true love." No. The Goddess thing was ret-conned as well.eventually gets turned into his one true love and some kind of Goddess, just eh on that.
I am not a huge Cordelia fan either. She doesn't bug me so much in s1/2 of AtS but before and after I'm pretty meh about her. And I still love AtS. AtS is still worth watching despite the Cordy stuff. Season 1 is really mostly about Angel (and has B/A all over it), Season 2 is really mostly about Angel and Darla which is interesting stuff. S3 is tough - mind you but s4 retcons it for you. Season 5 is funny and has a great season finale.This for me. I haven't watched all of Angel, because of Cordelia.