Bisexual people exist.I had no desire to see Gethan (or is it Ethiles? I know, some people hate elided names, so sue me). If he was gay, we would have missed out on Jenny and Anya (for the duration of Tabula Rasa) being in love with him. Giles and Ethan both have a shared past that was highlighted by abuse of magic and the death of one of their friends and death came following their other friends but this does not automatically spell romance between them. Ethan in particular was not romantic material for either sex - he was too narcissistic.
Agreed, bisexual people do exist. But the idea that everyone who has been a colleague in some undertaking or other is a romantic pairing is an excessive bias towards melodrama. It ignores the most common outcome that someone can be a friend without being a lover. I have had work buddies that I have done a number of things with from a wine-tasting tour to flying a Cessna 172. But we were never couples. The Whedonverse has been justly accused of falling back on romantic pairings when the plot had nothing else going for it, unless you really wanted to see more lazy writing like the Wesley - Fred - Gunn triangle that tended to ruin Angel wherever it showed up.Bisexual people exist.
tbh, I'd never considered this 'ship, but thinking more about it, I can see potential. Like Angel and Spike, these two have a history, and a relationship, though it's of the love/hate variety. There's definitely potential for an interesting fan fic!I think it would be interesting.
You know a ship is doomed when the names are this clunky.I had no desire to see Gethan (or is it Ethiles? I know, some people hate elided names, so sue me).
I had no desire to see Gethan (or is it Ethiles? I know, some people hate elided names, so sue me).
It's only clunky because it's merging a last name with a first. Which other ships don't do.You know a ship is doomed when the names are this clunky.
Espenson admitted that the homoerotic undertones between Giles/Ethan were intentional. In A New Man they deliberately intercut the scenes between Giles/Ethan with the scenes between Willow/Tara and, well, we all know what those scenes stood for.I understand that the Tillow relationship has made BtVS a favourite program of the LGBTQ crowd, but that does not mean every association of two people of the same sex are automatically a couple.
Do you remember where she said that?Espenson admitted that the homoerotic undertones between Giles/Ethan were intentional. In A New Man they deliberately intercut the scenes between Giles/Ethan with the scenes between Willow/Tara and, well, we all know what those scenes stood for
I've found these quotes from her so far;Do you remember where she said that?
Interesting, except I don't care for Tillow, but thank you for that.I've found these quotes from her so far;
"And yes, I have always felt that there was something between [Giles and Ethan] when they were younger. It is one of those places where slash and canon merge - much like Jonathan and Xander in Superstar. I am not trying to hide anything. Run with it, kids." (about A New Man).
"Come on, they both went to public school" (when asked if they had experimented)
I'd also forgotten that the Giles/Ethan scenes were intercut with the Buffy/Riley sparring sessions as well. Given how fighting/sex is as much subtext for Buffy's character as magic/sex is for Willow and that the episode makes this blatant ("I sort of... kicked him across the room last night") and they tease Ethan coming on to Giles ("you know you're really quite attractive..." "Hmm?") and I'd say it's obvious what was happening with the interwoven Willow/Tara, Buffy/Riley and Giles/Ethan scenes in those episodes.