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Dollhouse (Re)watch & Discuss: 1.04 Gray Hour

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This week, we'll be watching the fourth episode of the first season of Dollhouse - Gray Hour - written by Sarah Fain & Elizabeth Craft, and directed by Rod Hardy. This (re)watch is open to new Dollhouse viewers (such as myself) and existing fans. Everyone is welcome to join in!

This episode 4 (re)watch takes place between 17th July 2016 - 23rd July 2016. You can watch this episode at your leisure during that time and discuss the episode below.

Although Dollhouse has aired for some time, this and all future episode threads are a dedicated no spoiler zone! Please ensure any spoilers are spoiler tagged. :)

Gray Hour - S1E4
Synopsis​
Echo's engagement to steal some art starts to go bad when she and others in her crew get locked in the vault. When Echo is wiped remotely, the Dollhouse must figure a way to get her out.
 

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I found this episode to be really dull. I got a bit bored during the middle and I started playing with my phone.

What was the point with Sierra again? To help them not set off the alarm but it gets set off anyway - yawn!
I don't understand all the stuff with Paul and 'Victor' - at all! Why did he have to give him asylum? Why did he kick him out? I don't get it!
Yet again, Boyd stole the show for me.
The remote wipe was interesting, but ultimately it seems to me that 'impossible' things are happening every week, which is starting to bug me. Topher redeemed himself last week and I actually enjoyed him, but this week he wound me up again.
I'm intrigued about the whole Alpha thing, but at the moment he seems like a limitless villain, and all villains need a weakness. I'll be interested to see what his is.
I wasn't convinced with Eliza's acting at all in the vault. I don't know why, she just didn't seem like a blank Echo to me (or maybe that's the point?) It was interesting to see her as a midwife at the start, definitely a refreshing change from seeing her as a female companion for a man. I'd like to see more of those sorts of assignments for her.

Overall, the worst one yet. D- (and that's being generous):rolleyes:
 

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Aww man. I thought this episode was the beginnings of things getting more interesting. I had zero hope for the show until this episode. Especially after the last episode.

I think the remote wipe, and showing the Dollhouse lose control of their doll at the hands of someone else, was interesting. That someone else can understand and also use Dollhouse-style tech was frightening.

As everyone probably knows I'm not a huge Eliza fan but I do think this episode made the best use of her "bad girl" acting abilities so far (even if Dichen Lachman's performance as Taffy did outdo her slightly). The switch to Echo was endearing, she did well. The scene with her questioning the Picasso painting ("this one's broken") was clever, and I found Echo's dialogue with the injured thief sweet.

Good use of music too! I love Sia. Boyd coming to save the day, then realising Echo had solved the problem, with the help of her more understanding thief companion, was another interesting twist for Echo. She continues to surprise, whether that's a good thing or not in the eyes of all at the Dollhouse remains to be seen.
 
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I noticed the Sia song the first time too. Fits perfectly for the series.

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I'm intrigued about the whole Alpha thing, but at the moment he seems like a limitless villain, and all villains need a weakness. I'll be interested to see what his is.
Why do you think Alpha is the villain? Isn't Dollhouse the villain?;)o_O
 

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I like this episode! It's not great (yet! hold on people...) but I found it interesting. I like seeing blank Echo having to try to deal with an intense situation. Personally I really liked Eliza as Taffy (and prefer her to Dichen as Taffy) and I like her as Echo. I also liked her as the prostitute at the beginning haha. To me they are three distinct people. I thought this episode was twisty and pretty cool. I like that the dolls are grouping.
 

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I found this episode a bit of a dud. It's not bad, but it's not good either.
I mean, the remote wipe thing is technically cool but I feel like it's a bit early to bring in new tech when the audience are barely familiar with the old tech, so to speak. Basically, I felt like the episode brought nothing to the story except something that ought to have been introduced later.

It's a bit of a step back really, just another 'Echo's so special' ep, which we've already had three of. It would have been nice to get something more... I don't know, just something else than Echo Echo Echo, look how fabulous Echo is. "I'm not broken", yeah yeah... my interest is fading unless you give me something more than only Echo stuff.

What I like is the "they're a little bit bison", lol! Topher and Boyd, the highlights of the episode!
Also Anson Mount is hot.

Overall review: Underwhelmingly stagnant, things should be picking up, not slowing down.
 

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Last day today! Tomorrow we move on to 1.05 'True Believer' :)
 

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Dark I've been bad at keeping up! Blame the real life! But I plan on doing a bit of a marathon, and joining again for next week! We're gonna get to the good episodes shortly!
 

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I actually really love this episode. It's one of my favorites. I rewatch it the most. I'm a sucker for heist plots. I love Eliza as Taffy and I like that Dichen gives a slightly different take on the character. I always like it when the dolls play a character we've already seen. I like the dolls eating lunch together. One of my favorite things in the show is the relationship between the three dolls.

I feel like it's a bit early to bring in new tech when the audience are barely familiar with the old tech, so to speak. Basically, I felt like the episode brought nothing to the story except something that ought to have been introduced later
Yea I kinda agree with this. It's a but fast with the Alpha stuff. Topher is suppose to be our genius tech guy and even he doesn't know how Alpha did it. But I do like the idea of wiping Echo in the field and seeing how she responds. If we had a better episode that develops more of the Dollhouse before this I think it'd work better.

Also Anson Mount is hot
Yes! This is the only thing I find him hot in. Lol. I've seen him in other stuff and don't find him attractive but for some reason he's hot here. Lol
 

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It was interesting to see her as a midwife at the start, definitely a refreshing change from seeing her as a female companion for a man. I'd like to see more of those sorts of assignments for her.
I didn't really like that at all. That had to be some kind of pro bono thing, right? I mean - who on earth would hire a doll to be your midwife in the middle of nowhere... you'd have to have an awful lot of faith in the tech in take case. I mean, what reason could there possibly be to not get an actual midwife, with real-life midwife experience? Sp the "who gets a doll and why" is actually still kind of fuzzy to me, female companion makes the most sense.

Oh a thought I forgot about this episode, I think it was this one at least.... With the client Adelle was all "no one but you know what you want your doll for"... how would that be possible? I mean Topher has to know what to imprint them with, skills and what not, and Adelle and them must want to know what kind of risk there'll be to the doll... just seemed like an odd thing to put in there when it can't really be true.
 

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I didn't really like that at all. That had to be some kind of pro bono thing, right? I mean - who on earth would hire a doll to be your midwife in the middle of nowhere...
While I like Echo being used for more than an escort, I did think a midwife we weird. Surely it would be cheaper hiring a real midwife. Sounds like an assignment you'd give a lesser active.
 

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Maybe the wife had a serious illness, or possibly these two aren't supposed to have a baby together, like or political reasons or something, so no one could know...? Lol
 

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I absolutely loved this episode... But a lot of it is just because I always love heist stories. Still - Taffy was one of the cooler imprints, and Dushku's performance was spot on (she pretty much played Faith, which she's great at), and there were some very interesting conversations here. Plus - the memory wipe twist was great, and foreshadowes Epitaph one. Great stuff.
 

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Maybe the wife had a serious illness, or possibly these two aren't supposed to have a baby together, like or political reasons or something, so no one could know...? Lol
That's kind of what I thought. Something's up with the couple, hence the doll. But it's not explained so it's still a bit weird to me. But then, it might be pro-bono as I suggested, as in Topher "practices his skills in imprinting". Who knows, it doesn't really matter, but since the first time I watched the show I wished they would have put more time into explaining stuff like this.
 

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Maybe the wife had a serious illness, or possibly these two aren't supposed to have a baby together, like or political reasons or something, so no one could know...? Lol
I mean it could be something that might require it being secretive. It's also maybe she had to stay with them for a while too. Like maybe someone hired her as a gift for the couple? Ultimately it's not important but I like details.
 

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Maybe she was there to protect them and their child under the guise of being the midwife?
 
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Or maybe they want someone who is the perfect midwife, and that can't be found "in the wild"?

I liked this episode - I liked that they further showed how the dolls work by giving Sierra the same imprint as Echo. And I know a lot of people don't like the focus being on Echo, but she is the main character and we're only 4 episodes in...
 

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I found this episode to be really dull. I got a bit bored during the middle and I started playing with my phone.

What was the point with Sierra again? To help them not set off the alarm but it gets set off anyway - yawn!
I don't understand all the stuff with Paul and 'Victor' - at all! Why did he have to give him asylum? Why did he kick him out? I don't get it!
Yet again, Boyd stole the show for me.
The remote wipe was interesting, but ultimately it seems to me that 'impossible' things are happening every week, which is starting to bug me. Topher redeemed himself last week and I actually enjoyed him, but this week he wound me up again.
I'm intrigued about the whole Alpha thing, but at the moment he seems like a limitless villain, and all villains need a weakness. I'll be interested to see what his is.
I wasn't convinced with Eliza's acting at all in the vault. I don't know why, she just didn't seem like a blank Echo to me (or maybe that's the point?) It was interesting to see her as a midwife at the start, definitely a refreshing change from seeing her as a female companion for a man. I'd like to see more of those sorts of assignments for her.

Overall, the worst one yet. D- (and that's being generous):rolleyes:
Some very good points, but I didn't hate this episode as much as you. I think the key issue was the pacing at times and the lack of logic or clarity in some of the plot details. The heist plot I actually enjoyed it. I thought it got inside the darkness and surrealist of the show. And from an action stand point with some nice comedy thrown in it delivered. Its just they strung the ending out too much and it became anti-climatic.

I do know what you mean about Topher in the episode. I mean it was interesting to explore that side of him, but they did over play it, and it grated after awhile.

Yeah I thought the Victor plot was totally pointless. There was no pay-off to it.

Aww man. I thought this episode was the beginnings of things getting more interesting. I had zero hope for the show until this episode. Especially after the last episode.

I think the remote wipe, and showing the Dollhouse lose control of their doll at the hands of someone else, was interesting. That someone else can understand and also use Dollhouse-style tech was frightening.

As everyone probably knows I'm not a huge Eliza fan but I do think this episode made the best use of her "bad girl" acting abilities so far (even if Dichen Lachman's performance as Taffy did outdo her slightly). The switch to Echo was endearing, she did well. The scene with her questioning the Picasso painting ("this one's broken") was clever, and I found Echo's dialogue with the injured thief sweet.

Good use of music too! I love Sia. Boyd coming to save the day, then realising Echo had solved the problem, with the help of her more understanding thief companion, was another interesting twist for Echo. She continues to surprise, whether that's a good thing or not in the eyes of all at the Dollhouse remains to be seen.
I liked that too. Gave a little more of a depth to what otherwise could have been a basic action story, and was some good character work.

I didn't really like that at all. That had to be some kind of pro bono thing, right? I mean - who on earth would hire a doll to be your midwife in the middle of nowhere... you'd have to have an awful lot of faith in the tech in take case. I mean, what reason could there possibly be to not get an actual midwife, with real-life midwife experience? Sp the "who gets a doll and why" is actually still kind of fuzzy to me, female companion makes the most sense.

Oh a thought I forgot about this episode, I think it was this one at least.... With the client Adelle was all "no one but you know what you want your doll for"... how would that be possible? I mean Topher has to know what to imprint them with, skills and what not, and Adelle and them must want to know what kind of risk there'll be to the doll... just seemed like an odd thing to put in there when it can't really be true.
Shows how dim I am because I thought the the midwife thing was just in Echo's head!:eek: It was quite a fun and playful little scene I thought.:)
 
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