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"I've Never Seen "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" So I Watched The Pilot And Finale And Nothing In Between"

Athene

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Why would she think that's a good idea? 😂
 

HowiMetdaSlayer

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Yeah, they been better off just trying random episodes from late S2 & S3. 😕
 

Tank1978

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I read this too. Was hilarious.

"Spikes soul explodes which helps fight off the demons. I'm sure this would make more sense if I watched the whole thing"

Only missed out the 142 episodes...seems a rather odd way to watch a show. I'm not even sure at the end of it she knew Angel and Spike were vampires. Think she suspects it but not certain and wonders why Buffy is in a love triangle with two men who look about 10 years older!!! 🤣

Wonder if she'll do the same with Angel....what would she make of Lorne and Ilyria? Especially when Ilyria turns into Fred as Wes dies.

Imagine if she then picked 1 episode at random to watch and chose once more with feeling 🤣
 

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I saw this on Google News, I got a chuckle out of it. I think the writer may have been better served if she went with "Graduation Day," or watched the pilot as the two part episode it was intended to be. Gosh, I bet Cheers would be confusing with this type of system.
A former work colleague of mine after urging/recommendation from his mates watched The Gift cold. He found he could follow the plot ok it was the relationships between the characters that he found he couldn't get his head around on that basis and yeah I get that they're complex and don't get simpler.
 

AlphaFoxtrot

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A former work colleague of mine after urging/recommendation from his mates watched The Gift cold. He found he could follow the plot ok it was the relationships between the characters that he found he couldn't get his head around on that basis and yeah I get that they're complex and don't get simpler.
Buffy was mostly a product of an age where television was episodic, and continuing storylines were considered a burden to syndication. It was only in the mid-aughts when it becomes okay to make season arcs. That being said, "The Gift?" It's literally the only episode of the show that tells you that you need to watch every prior episode to appreciate this one. So I agree, the relationships in the gift are not self contained.
 

AlphaFoxtrot

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Dunno, I think that Buffy was more of a hybrid. Cause (especially in the 2nd half of the season) they always had some kind of seasonal arc.
Definitely, yes. Buffy was a pioneer. But think about those seasonal arcs, how many of them have the Big Bad gloat for a scene or two, before getting back to the plot? X-Files did the same thing, some mythology episodes, but mostly MOTW. DS9 met resistance from the studio for it's war Arc and finale Arc. This is why I give a lot of leeway to season 4 of Angel. Nobody really knew how to write a season long Arc at the time. Longform story telling is normal now, but this was not always so.
 

Honoria Dedlock

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Definitely, yes. Buffy was a pioneer. But think about those seasonal arcs, how many of them have the Big Bad gloat for a scene or two, before getting back to the plot? X-Files did the same thing, some mythology episodes, but mostly MOTW. DS9 met resistance from the studio for it's war Arc and finale Arc. This is why I give a lot of leeway to season 4 of Angel. Nobody really knew how to write a season long Arc at the time. Longform story telling is normal now, but this was not always so.
Buffy deserves credit for a lot of things, but it's general structure is REALLY reminiscent of Sailor Moon, which had aired a few years prior. That anime had all the usual monsters of the week and a season long arc with a villain. It even had the ambiguous love interest helping out the blonde protagonist...have no idea if Joss was inspired by it or not but the superficial similarities are interesting.

The long form storytelling became more popular after The Sopranos, but Buffy definitely had exceptional seasonal long arcs, especially seasons two and three. They were not popular at the time and many people despised the X-files attempt at an overarching arc. The good thing about shows like Buffy and X-files is that the MOTW episodes were often exceptional in themselves, and Buffy holds up particularly well because it managed both well (except for seasons 4 and 7...and even those seasons contain amazing standalones)

Another thing is that TV shows these days are shorter, so MOTW episodes are often considered useless filler. They are much more like films, with shorter screen times and bigger budgets ala Game of Thrones. Sometimes I miss eosiodes going off tangent though, some newer TV shows seem a bit stuffy and pretentious compared to the pre-golden era of TV at times.
 

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Dunno, I think that Buffy was more of a hybrid. Cause (especially in the 2nd half of the season) they always had some kind of seasonal arc.
I agree. Its funny because a friend of mine whose cynical about the modern age of TV quite likes Buffy because he seems to prefer the standalone structure. What's funny about that is unlike a show like X-Files I think the arc episodes work better than many of the standalones. The best standalones are the ones which add to the characters (I Only Have Eyes for You for example).

This was a fun experiment and I enjoyed her random comments. Before I got into Buffy I just watched a couple of random episodes on TV, All the Way and OMWF.
 

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I wish they would have named the first two episodes as like “welcome to the hellmouth pt 1 and pt 2” because new people don’t understand that it was meant to be viewed as one episode. Also, it’s not the pilot. The pilot was the 20 min quick version of the 80 min episode without Alyson Hannigan as Willow.
 

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This was fun, but I don't believe for one minute she doesn't know exactly what happened in this show even if she hasn't watched every episode.
 
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Its not impossible.

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What was the actual reason she didn't watch BTVS? Twilight and TVD portrayed blokes she could fancy BTVS didn't, that sounds like a more logical reason about her choice of what to watch though that does not give reason for her stupidity. The episode shown, the one she goes on about as the pilot may well have been the first episode but it was not the pilot. Allyson Hannigan(?) was not Willlow in the unaired pilot.
And to think she got paid for writing that drivel.
 

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What was the actual reason she didn't watch BTVS? Twilight and TVD portrayed blokes she could fancy BTVS didn't, that sounds like a more logical reason about her choice of what to watch though that does not give reason for her stupidity. The episode shown, the one she goes on about as the pilot may well have been the first episode but it was not the pilot. Allyson Hannigan(?) was not Willlow in the unaired pilot.
And to think she got paid for writing that drivel.
I think it's more a experiment - how would someone respond seeing something out of context how much makes sense? From what POV its interesting. She knows she's missing a lot of context. Idk maybe it's that I watched a lot of Buffy spoilered so for me knowing the destination isn't a deal breaker although maybe I enjoy season seven so much as I watched it unspoilered and looked forward to it.
 

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@katmobile it was an experiment, recently read similar articles on BuzzFeed of "I watched the pilot and finale of xxx, and nothing in between. Here are my thoughts..."
Off memory they've also done Sex and the City, the OC, and Pretty Little Liars.
These are quite interesting, and really funny, when your a big fan of the show 😊
 

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I did this with Breaking Bad. I found it interesting and complex enough to add it to my watch list. That was over a year ago, but i add to the list endlessly.

No way did i understand show dynamics. It was fascinating to see how much or how little characters appear to have changed.

It was also interesting to see how the actors come to inhabit the characters vs the "big" awkward caricature in the first episodes.

I am not big on spoiler avoidance, as seeing how they "get there" is the reason to watch the middle bits.
 
AlphaFoxtrot
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I know a couple of surprise twists that were well worth it, but never in a series finale.

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It's funny, because the first scene of Buffy I ever watched was the balcony scene from "Dead Things" in season 6, then I watched the seasons backwards.

With perfect clarity I can remember exactly what I thought:
"Wait a minute, I had no idea this show would do something like this. Wasn't his kind of a goofy fluffy show? Is he a bad guy? He sounds like a bad guy, but she's the main character, and the good guy, and she's enjoying that. What the hell is going on here?!"
 

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If we were giving some kind of award of what scene not to start with, "It is strongly suggested that Buffy is being sodomized by shady Spike while being made to watch her friends do a goofy lighthearted dance" would probably win. Second place would be one of those episodes from Season 7, where First Dru is ranting at Spike while he is being drowned in Holy Water by the Turok-Han, how would you even explain what is happening?
 
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