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Out of buffys boyfriends, Riley is the most hated, but does he actually deserve the hate

r2dh2

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I actually liked Riley in S4. He's physically attractive (not precisely my type, but he is good-looking) and really sweet, cute and charming in his own way. Buffy was happy with him in this season and he fitted into the Scooby gang in a way that neither Angel nor Spike ever did. I think that it was a soothing relationship and perfect for the transition into college. Having said that, I do believe that he’s way too vanilla for my taste and definitely didn’t have long-run potential IMO, and as a couple I never felt that they had any real chemistry.

But I don’t hate Riley S5 as much as other people, I think he’s a product of his time and his environment (men in charge kinda guy, which is perfectly fine for some people), and I can even sympathize with him feeling left out at times. That doesn’t mean that I agree with his way of dealing with that, Buffy had a lot in her plate and she was used to solve her problems on her own. For me, S5 just showed why they couldn’t work out in the long run. I’m not even sure that there was a way of making him more attractive within the show even if Spike wasn’t in the picture. So, even discounting Spike completely, for me the relationship was mostly “ok-ish.”
 
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Altoz

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I never actually saw any of the Riley episodes. Marc is a rather handsome bloke and excellent actor, , it has to be said, but I suspect the hostility to the character was due to two things (a) "conservative" Bangel shippers who saw Riley as the 'other man' or 'third party' who stood in the way of their preferred relationship. And (b) Buffy seems to have the classic metahuman intimacy concern issues- if I have a relationship with a non-metahuman, they may be vulnerable to reprisals from my enemies, who are stronger than they are. Their lives and safety would be placed at risk if I did so. I can't risk it. To some extent, this was offset by Riley's Initiative status, but the power gap still remains. She's a slayer and he's non-metahuman. It could never have worked out. It was good to see Riley had rebounded and married Sam and that Buffy and he remained friends.
 

telperion66

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Riley is really cool.

I think he was real good for Buffy's wellbeing overall. He brought a stability to the show that was needed with all the immature goings-on and dialogue a lot of the time. He was handsome. And, for me, had an immediately endearing quality that led you to like him.

I think the show lost out when he left, as has happened so often in the Buffy/Angelverse (Lindsey, Connor, Angel, Riley, Jenny etc)
 

katmobile

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I absolutely agree with this. Dru accepted Spike for who he was and only broke up because of Dru's visions of Spuffy. I wish they'd stayed together.



I think James is actually further back from Sarah than he appears. Michelle seems in line with David and James is behind Michelle so I don't think it was physically possible for him and Sarah to hold hands from where they're positioned. On a side note, during the video of the photoshoot, did anyone notice the look that Michelle and James gave each other?
Look that's Sarah and the photographer's decision. No matter what Sarah thinks actors are not their characters and vice versa.
 
DeadlyDuo
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Bit confused here. Can you give some context for your post please because I'm not sure what you're replying to from my post?

katmobile

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Riley showed his other side when he did that . Among other things . And in S8 you see them as good friends & nothing more.
I think there's a mutual recognition that they're better as friends and they're both good people just weren't right for each other.
 
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