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Talk about Spike.

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First I hated Spike but when the series whent on. I becan to like hem more. Beaucous he was bad. I alwas hate the bad people in series. Beaucous the are bad. Is that just my?
 

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Thought he was a very good in S2 , but as the show went on I began to dislike him more, putting him with Buffy reinforce my dislike of the character, by season 7 it was the Spike show should have swopped him and had Cordelia back in season 4
 

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Spike is a Great character. Masterfully acted with some of the best dialogue in the entire series. His and Drusilla’s introduction is the best Big Bad Intro. Spike’s awareness of the Scooby’s problems and being the voice of reason is what makes him stand out from the rest of the cast. Emotionally intelligent, balanced with sarcasm and Humor, add on dominate Presence and you have the perfect Anti-hero. I love his friendship with Dawn and how him and Giles interact. Also the scene when he finds out he has a Chip in Willows dorm room is comedy Gold😆😂 S6 is when it felt like the writers were shoving Fanfic down our throats. And his character became bad, but James still always delivered great scenes.
 
AnthonyCordova
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That was a very funny scene in s6

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enfin un de mes sujets préférés pour parler de mon Spiky ^^ plus sérieusement j'adore ça tout le temps (j'ai une préférence pour la saison 5) c'est mon personnage préféré son côté bad boy c'est le sarcasme, son humour, son look la façon dont il se comporte quand il est amoureux si touchant je trouve ça très complexe

contrairement à certains je préfère piquer les saisons où il est amoureux de Buffy dans la saison 2 je l'aime bien c'est un méchant avec allure mais c'est tout il n'est pas super intéressant et complexe
dans la saison 4 il balance juste quelques insultes et il parle du petit blague de service ^^
saison 5 le wow j'adore ça me fait trop de peine bon un peu patetic par moment et gênant d'exprimer son amour (oui pique il ne faut pas enchaîner celui qu'on aime avec son ex fou pour lui avouer son amour ^^ ) bref il est très touchant et quand il est torturé par Glory pour ne pas révéler que Dawn a la clé et que Buffy le remercie je fond ;)
saison 6 j'adore tellement les débuts étaient géniaux il avait une vraie complexité avec Buffy c'était mignon la tournure malsaine de leur relation m'a un peu déçu mais j'aime toujours c'est très complexe au niveau des sentiments de Buffy et Spike ils sont tous les deux en dépression c'est dans cette saison que pour moi Spike et la plus touchante même si la tentative de viol me fait mal Buffy n'est pas toute blanche non plus c'est continu de leur relation malsaine il a eu un coup de folie il s'est reproché et a récupéré son âme pour Buffy ^^
saison 7 j'adore le toucher complexe il s'adoucit un peu au début mais il a du s'adonner a son âme a partir d'un moment il retrouve son niak et j'adore il redevient petit a petit le crampon qu'ont connu tout en étant différent

Il a eu un très bon développement le seul qui pouvait rivaliser et Willow pour moi et même limiter

Eh bien vous l'avez compris J'ADORE Spike !!! ^^
 
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Moi aussi

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Spike is a Great character. Masterfully acted with some of the best dialogue in the entire series. His and Drusilla’s introduction is the best Big Bad Intro. Spike’s awareness of the Scooby’s problems and being the voice of reason is what makes him stand out from the rest of the cast. Emotionally intelligent, balanced with sarcasm and Humor, add on dominate Presence and you have the perfect Anti-hero. I love his friendship with Dawn and how him and Giles interact. Also the scene when he finds out he has a Chip in Willows dorm room is comedy Gold😆😂 S6 is when it felt like the writers were shoving Fanfic down our throats. And his character became bad, but James still always delivered great scenes.
Je ne suis pas totalement d'accord le personnage de spike n'est pas devenue mauvais si non vous pouvez en dire autant de Buffy qui elle est tombez en dépréssion a jouer avec les sentiments de Spike et la entrainé en depréssion pour qu'elle me se sentir après . Je trouve reducteurs pour le personnage de Spike et arrété avec il a profité de la pauvre petite Buffy alors qu'il l'ont fait tout les deux Buffy a profité de la faiblaisse de Spike ( qui et elle comme il le dit dans l'episode musical " tu es ma faiblaisse " ) et lui de sa dépréssion mais dire qu'ils l'ont fait consciament serrait mentir car ça voudrait qu'il serait dans un etat d'espris stable ce qui n'est pas le cas vous vous souvenez de cette phrase " Pauvre petite fille egaré elle ne trouve ça place nul part " et " Pauvre Spiky il n'est pas humain et pas vampire tu peut me dire ou elle est ta place " ils sont tout les deux dans un mal-être et quete d'identité ild ne pouvait en aucun cas avoir une relation stable , normal ils se sont echappé de la vie pars le billet du sex qui etait la seul chose possible pour eux je remarque
I will go directly to the attempted rape which is one that I cannot costinné but it remains in the continuation of their ill-healthy relationship which was "no" who wanted "yes" it is where spike did not understand that "no" meant "no" could have noticed that for some time Spike had been in the same depression as Buffy was at the beginning of S6 I perceived the attempted rape rather as an innisiative of the demon in him the man in him was broken and weak the demon took advantage of it and made him cross the limits we could see that he was angry with himself "Buffy I didn't want" invaded by guilt he went to recover his soul
 
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Goigle translate so others do t have to!

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Great character, brilliant actor, I do think that he ended up taking over the show too much in seasons 6 and 7, though it would be wrong that to say that he was the sole problem with those series as many have.

Still he is one of the big icons of the series for a reason. Also I've been lucky enough to meet James and he is a great guy.
 

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Thought he was a very good in S2 , but as the show went on I began to dislike him more, putting him with Buffy reinforce my dislike of the character, by season 7 it was the Spike show should have swopped him and had Cordelia back in season 4
I liked that Spike tried to help Buffy
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Spike is a Great character. Masterfully acted with some of the best dialogue in the entire series. His and Drusilla’s introduction is the best Big Bad Intro. Spike’s awareness of the Scooby’s problems and being the voice of reason is what makes him stand out from the rest of the cast. Emotionally intelligent, balanced with sarcasm and Humor, add on dominate Presence and you have the perfect Anti-hero. I love his friendship with Dawn and how him and Giles interact. Also the scene when he finds out he has a Chip in Willows dorm room is comedy Gold😆😂 S6 is when it felt like the writers were shoving Fanfic down our throats. And his character became bad, but James still always delivered great scenes.
Did you know that Jame is not English but Gilles (antony) leard hel to speak whit a britisch accent
 

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Spike (and Drusilla) had one of the BEST character intros in the Buffyverse. Too bad they neutered him later on, and had him mooning over Buffy. He was much more fun when he was throughly evil.
 

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I liked that Spike tried to help Buffy
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Did you know that Jame is not English but Gilles (antony) leard hel to speak whit a britisch accent
Not in S6 after wrecked, he waited for her or visited Buffy at work etc but that was to manipulate Buffy into having sex no the only time I remember him helping Buffy fight the demons was when he chased after her in dead things
I can assure you Spikes accent did not sound English to English people
 

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Spike as a character worked, because James had GREAT comedic timing...and a dramatic flair. You can definitely see that when he joined the Angel cast. He and David just bounced off each other, they were so great together.
 

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Great character, brilliant actor, I do think that he ended up taking over the show too much in seasons 6 and 7, though it would be wrong that to say that he was the sole problem with those series as many have.

Still he is one of the big icons of the series for a reason. Also I've been lucky enough to meet James and he is a great guy.

Great character, brilliant actor, I do think that he ended up taking over the show too much in seasons 6 and 7, though it would be wrong that to say that he was the sole problem with those series as many have.

Still he is one of the big icons of the series for a reason. Also I've been lucky enough to meet James and he is a great guy.
He took over because James is a fabulous actor and he and Sarah played amazingly well off each other. Whenever they are together, the scenes sparkle - they are effulgent.

I think if I had been ambivalent about Spike, that would have ended when Glory trashed him.

I loved his character from season 2 both his interactions with Dru - raw emotion combined with mercurial annoyance -- and his electricity and humour with Buffy. "Do we really need weapons for this?" Frankly that first fight was sex with fists. It was not hard to see the possibility of attraction later on.

I <3 Spike!
 

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Pas dans S6 après avoir fait naufrage, il l'a attendue ou a rendu visite à Buffy au travail, etc., mais c'était pour manipuler Buffy pour qu'elle ait des relations sexuelles.
Je peux vous assurer que l'accent de Spikes ne sonnait pas anglais pour les anglais
Je me dois de répondre 😅
Si vous dites qu'il la manipulé ça voudrait dire qu'ils etait dans un etat d'esprit *stable* alors que là ce n'etait pas le cas il etait en mal être comme Buffy l'a si bien dit " Pauvre Spiky il n'est pas humain mais paa vampire tu peut me dire ou elle est ta place " Moi ce que je vois c'est juste de personnage en dépréssion qui essaye d'oublié leurs soucit par le billait du sexe . Buffy a profité de Spike de sa faiblaisse sa faiblaisse qui est "elle" et lui de sa faiblaisse qui est "sa dépréssion"
Not in S6 after wrecked, he waited for her or visited Buffy at work etc but that was to manipulate Buffy into having sex no the only time I remember him helping Buffy fight the demons was when he chased after her in dead things
I can assure you Spikes accent did not sound English to English people
I have to answer 😅

If you say he manipulated her it would mean that they were in a * stable * state of mind whereas there it wasn't he was in bad shape as Buffy put it so well "Poor Spiky he is not human but paa vampire you can tell me where she is your place "Me what I see is just character in depression who tries to forget their worries by the billait of the sex. Buffy took advantage of Spike of his weakness which is "her" and him of his weakness which is "his depression
 

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Not in S6 after wrecked, he waited for her or visited Buffy at work etc but that was to manipulate Buffy into having sex no the only time I remember him helping Buffy fight the demons was when he chased after her in dead things
I can assure you Spikes accent did not sound English to English people
Spike whase in Love white Buffy reat?
 

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Je me dois de répondre 😅
Si vous dites qu'il la manipulé ça voudrait dire qu'ils etait dans un etat d'esprit *stable* alors que là ce n'etait pas le cas il etait en mal être comme Buffy l'a si bien dit " Pauvre Spiky il n'est pas humain mais paa vampire tu peut me dire ou elle est ta place " Moi ce que je vois c'est juste de personnage en dépréssion qui essaye d'oublié leurs soucit par le billait du sexe . Buffy a profité de Spike de sa faiblaisse sa faiblaisse qui est "elle" et lui de sa faiblaisse qui est "sa dépréssion"

I have to answer 😅

If you say he manipulated her it would mean that they were in a * stable * state of mind whereas there it wasn't he was in bad shape as Buffy put it so well "Poor Spiky he is not human but paa vampire you can tell me where she is your place "Me what I see is just character in depression who tries to forget their worries by the billait of the sex. Buffy took advantage of Spike of his weakness which is "her" and him of his weakness which is "his depression
Spike depressed never heard that before , vampires are evil demon can demons be depressed? Buffy was using Spike for self harming , she had lost her Mother had a mental breakdown , sacrificed herself to save the world all in season 5, torn out of heaven in 6 and returned to earth and her life as it was before which she then thought of as hell, even Spike had told her she had come back wrong, having sex with Spike was the most degrading thing she could think of. what she felt she deserved she had been expelled from heaven she hated herself afterwards but Buffy did not realise it was symptoms of her depression, because of her mental illness and we saw how Spike was able to manipulate her Buffy could not understand why she let "Spike do those things to her", it was not until Riley's talk to Buffy that made her mentally strong enough to put a end to it
Spike was using Buffy for sex , its what he wanted, he stole her underwear, stalk her , made a shrine to her , had made a sex doll of her , got both the bot and Harmony act out what eventually happened in smashed , Spike did not love Buffy , Spike was obsessed with the slayer, Buffy unfortunately for her was the Slayer, I can not quote you lines that Spike said in Season 6 it will get me banned again , but look yourself at wrecked , what he said to Buffy while trying to rape her , that's not love as humans understand it , but that's it Spike is not human he is a type of parasitic animal , as Buffy said in season 1, it will talk like you have your memory but its not you its the thing that killed you
 

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Spike depressed never heard that before , vampires are evil demon can demons be depressed? Buffy was using Spike for self harming , she had lost her Mother had a mental breakdown , sacrificed herself to save the world all in season 5, torn out of heaven in 6 and returned to earth and her life as it was before which she then thought of as hell, even Spike had told her she had come back wrong, having sex with Spike was the most degrading thing she could think of. what she felt she deserved she had been expelled from heaven she hated herself afterwards but Buffy did not realise it was symptoms of her depression, because of her mental illness and we saw how Spike was able to manipulate her Buffy could not understand why she let "Spike do those things to her", it was not until Riley's talk to Buffy that made her mentally strong enough to put a end to it
Spike was using Buffy for sex , its what he wanted, he stole her underwear, stalk her , made a shrine to her , had made a sex doll of her , got both the bot and Harmony act out what eventually happened in smashed , Spike did not love Buffy , Spike was obsessed with the slayer, Buffy unfortunately for her was the Slayer, I can not quote you lines that Spike said in Season 6 it will get me banned again , but look yourself at wrecked , what he said to Buffy while trying to rape her , that's not love as humans understand it , but that's it Spike is not human he is a type of parasitic animal , as Buffy said in season 1, it will talk like you have your memory but its not you its the thing that killed you
Spike is not just an evil vampire he is probably the most human of all the vampires we see him when he continues to love his mother after her transformation then bites her so as not to lose her then he fell in love with Dru was devastated when she left him (which strangely sounded like a human reaction) I forgot about the judge who sensed feelings from Spike .... And he fell in love with Buffy and I see coming he did not love her it was just an obesession blablabla .... While NO he really loved her in a very unhealthy way that I agree but it remains love some proof of his love for her



- he was tortured by Glory for not I quote to make suffer the woman he loves vampire that?



- Keep his promise to keep Dawn while she was dead he had nothing gained he did that because it mattered to HER



- When he went to the magic shop he wanted an anti-love filter when he could very well have taken one for Buffy



- He's going to get his soul for Buffy



Once again Buffy is not all white the episode the invisible woman what do they see Spike she pushes him against the wall he had not asked for anything

most of the time she came to see him he came to see her what maybe 2 or 3 times maximum and besides I don't think she is taken Spike for just being mutilated she had feelings for him I don't don't make it up, she says it herself "I have feelings for you I admit it but I don't love you" and then remember in season 2 she barely dies for 2 minutes and she becomes a monster with her friends what would she have done if Spike wasn't there? His friends his sister ... would have taken everything

Yes and remember what he did after he tried to rape her or the intention he had you are not going to tell me that he prepared an evil plan by coming to apologize on purpose and try to rape her would be pulled by the hair more I don't like taking the shortcut "he tried to rape her" that would be too simple there is a difference between a real rapist who intends to and a guy who is in depression followed by a discomfort who drinks a lot without soul (without total awareness of good and evil) which tries to rape a girl then who blames herself like never before and will find her soul for her
I'm sorry but the wrongs are not just the BIG bad Spike and the nice little Buffy
 
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