If you refer to other people's political work as 'screaming,' then they will feel belittled and misunderstood. If you think there is a gap in you people's perspective, then you need to be very diplomatic about how you communicate that, otherwise they will just ignore you. We also need to see the good things that young people bring. We have more practice than them, so we should be careful about feeling too superior. When I teach, I try to keep in mind that one of the little smartasses may be the next Einstein or Noam Chomsky or whatever. Most of them will grow up to be smarter and wiser than me, anyway.Which parts were belittling @WillowFromBuffy ? I think the tone read is not as I intended (or how it reads in my head). Please help me see where I can learn to communicate this better, if what i have shared is not appropriate. My education comes from experience and I am not trained in language. This is why I said i could draw it better in my first post.
In regard to this, nightshade already warned about not getting personal but any more cursing at others or personal insults in this thread, will lead to it being closed. People are passionate about this topic, but as the quote above suggest, an agitated tone rarely results in anyone listening to you. All caps writing is considered screaming, let’s keep that in mind.you need to be very diplomatic about how you communicate that, otherwise they will just ignore you.
Made good points in the "wrong" language. Therefore deserve a scolding? Maybe the brain injury is limiting my understanding as to why an abusive post gets so much support, but my "good points" are largely over-looked because I used descriptive words and personal experience.I do think you make many good points.
My past students did not communicate via language, I am disabled, I taught others who are disabled. We all run in our circles. Animals communicate via body language. I speak that fluently. I teach by doing, by showing, by leading. I don't see that as incorrect, just alternative.When I teach
You called the object of this discussion a child screaming in the street and chucking a tanty. That is belittling. You know that, because you know you would not like someone describing you in such terms.So I tried to show in the hope of mutual understanding. And that is belittling others lives...?
May I explain this from my point of view? I am using informal conversation, an observational description with an Australian infelction.You called the object of this discussion a child screaming in the street and chucking a tanty. That is belittling. You know that, because you know you would not like someone describing you in such terms.
I think respect should go both ways. If I am middle aged, I still have 30 years left on the planet, I get a say too. Children are not the only ones who have the ability to learn.I think it is admirable that you are so invested in your community. It sounds like you are doing good work. However, there are other people who are trying to make a positive difference in other ways. When young people decide to make a stand for something, we should try to respect that and not dismiss it off hand
So anyone other than young people have no hope? That's just upside down for me. We lead their hope with our own.I want to make it clear that I am not a rolemodel in any way. I take little social responsibility, and I am too self involved and impatient to be diplomatic with people. However, I do try my best with young people, because they are not set yet. It is in them that hope lie.
I suspect some would prefer it that way so they are not challenged.will lead to it being closed.
So, things are different in my country (which is actually more similar to Sweden than you might think). Wide scale change is slow but it has been going here for many years. We have had a solar incentives for home owners - install solar panels, and sell your excess power back to the grid. Windfarms have been powering half the city since 2001. Wave energy is being tested for output. All of these things are little fixes, that are being implemented. No one thing can cover all of our energy needs, we learnt that from fossil fuels. To be sustainable, we must share the load. I did not know there was a single western country sitting on their hands over this.not making it any easier or cheaper to switch to sustainable models of living.
Without this "disaster" we would not have the technology we have now.who brought about this disaster in the first place.
Just a question, what is in her book and her speeches? Can someone clarify, is she releasing a book, and will she be off setting its footprint? Can someone link to where she has inspirationally addressed this topic. Is she just saying -You do realise that she is a 16 year old schoolgirl, not a geophysicist or climate scientist with PhD, or the boss of an oil company, right? How can you expect her to know what engineering to undertake?
Because I would not put all of our hope and trust in scientists (who are funded in many different ways) as Buffy and Ethan point out. Science can be interpreted in different ways. Any way if you pay a scientist enough. There are other aspects to healing the world than just what science is limited to."I’m not striking because I know how to tackle climate change, I’m striking because I want the people with the power to do something to start addressing it. They need to listen to the scientists who have been warning us about climate change for years – and who understand how best to solve this mess."
I completely support and applaude that.Thunberg decided not to travel by plane due to the fumes commercial jets emit into the atmosphere.
Which encouraged this -she vowed to continue her strike every Friday.
That is bratty behaviour, turning up and screaming to be heard with no actual demands besides "Do something" without themselves doing anything. The government here is doing something, it has been doing something since before this kid was born. The government is doing all that it knows to do at this stage. For example - our government offers grants to community groups over a wide range of community services, including ethical activity, poverty, water and energy reduction services, it is begging for ideas. The biggest problem is getting people in the community interested in challenging and changing their convenient consumeristic ways. Imagine getting people to engage with how they are continuing to cause this issue with their own selfish actions.School students in Australia were one of the first groups to mobilise. In November 2018, students in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Canberra and Hobart skipped school to lobby the government to take meaningful action on climate change.
Hundreds of students lined up outside Parliament House demanding to speak to Prime Minister Scott Morrison and senior members of parliament demanding urgent action on climate change.
I also do not see this as a great message to be spreading around the world. This is where the science and spiritual collide. As I have mentioned, everything is connected. If we see hope, we feel hope. If we see fear, we feel fear."I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. We owe it to the young people, to give them hope," she said.
When I speak to a person, they can walk away (its yet to happen offline). Now in a social media sense, people can block and ignore opinions that challenge their own - creating info bubbles that limit expansion beyond what is comfortable for the user.they will just ignore you
If only there were schools where she could go and learn these things.You do realise that she is a 16 year old schoolgirl, not a geophysicist or climate scientist with PhD, or the boss of an oil company, right? How can you expect her to know what engineering to undertake?
I never called your language 'incorrect' or anything to to that effect. I have not told you to change anything. If you want to call people out for what you see as tantrums or compare them to horses, then go ahead. You have my blessing. My only point is that if you insist on shooting from the hip, then you set the tone for the discussion that follows and people may choose to respond in kind.I hang around a lot of old cockies at the pub. We talk in in Aussie colloquialisms. What I see here is not incorrect use of language, but an intolerance to informal language. If I had known what I had done wrong, I would not be asking for clarification.
There is no nice way to say "aimless baby behaviour." If you feel so utterly superior to this 16 year old, then you can go ahead and say that, but other people may wish to take you to task for it. It is called having the courage of your convictions, something Greta Thunberg has in spades.It wasn't written in a mean spirited or belittling way - it was an acknowledgement of aimless baby behaviour with my daily language.
I can't hear the sound of your actions from over here, however loud you think they are. I can only see the words you type.I don't understand getting caught up in language. I practice what I preach because actions speak louder than words.
I typed examples, with picturesI can only see the words you type.
You added the superior afflection. I used observation of behaviour in my native tone. I don't think you're picking up what I am putting down. This has nothing to do with the topic, it is your intolerance to language styles outside of elitist circles.superior
I don't know what kind of circles you think I walk in. I normally speak a low status dialect, but when I speak English, I generally use the standard forms. It's not like I can start speaking like your Australian drinking buddies. I'm not Australian. And tanty/tantrum means pretty much the same no matter how you spell it.This has nothing to do with the topic, it is your intolerance to language styles outside of elitist circles.
I am pretty sure I can understand you, and you can go shout this from the rooftops for all I care. However, Thunberg would probably dismiss you just as easily as you do her.Look at my meaning. She is doing what baby animals do when they are not lead in what to do.
No, she really isn't. Don't colour her words with your substandard interpretation. "Inspire sympathy"? What the hell are you on about? We really don't require a dime store guru here, for the record. And the pompous, insulting tone of your post really grates. If you actually have something of worth to say, perhaps you shouldn't have your nose in the air at the same time.You're belittling others and asking for validation at the same time. It's not the best way to inspire sympathy. There is no one single right way to live one's life. You do you and let them do them.
Might I suggest an English refresher course? Because I don't believe ANYONE would willfully be this obtuse. Of course, I could be mistaken.I am pretty sure I can understand you, and you can go shout this from the rooftops for all I care. However, Thunberg would probably dismiss you just as easily as you do her.
I was not aware that HoppyHippy has been slagging me off. Also, I have not accused her of anything worse than describing Thunberg in a less than flattering manner. I have not made a single dig at her Australian colloquialisms. I like colloquialism, but I do not use them that often in English, because English is not my everyday language.We both know that your remarks to @HoppyHippy were the result of your not liking what she said on my profile post. I was wondering how long it would take you to retaliate; in a passive aggressive manner, of course. #Predictable