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The Wisdom of War: Prologue and Chapter 1

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Discuss these chapters here!
 
Okay, so this is the first Buffy novel I've ever read. And so far I am not that excited by it. I feel like they've spent way too much time on small things, like Buffy vs the sea monster and Xander's surfing. But it's early days.

I did like the references to Go Fish and Amends though.

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Finished these chapters last night. :)

It's very easy to read even if it's taking a while to establish some proper plot. I liked the bar fight with the demon, that reminded me of The Thing.
There's a lot of description of Buffy at the beginning over what she's wearing and then the last sentence of the paragraph says it looks like she raided Faith's closet. According to my writer partner, this is bad writing. I can't write to save my life so I can't judge as harshly. :p

Xander surfing comes across a bit weird, like where did that come from? He surfs? But then I remembered he was a skater in Welcome to the Hellmouth, maybe he done some surfing at the same time. Doesn't seem too implausible.

The historian's note tells us it's set in the 2nd half of season 5, although Buffy's mum is still alive in the book. I'd imagine it's around I Was Made to Love You as Riley isn't around. There wasn't a massive gap between him leaving and her mum dying.
 

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There's a lot of description of Buffy at the beginning over what she's wearing and then the last sentence of the paragraph says it looks like she raided Faith's closet. According to my writer partner, this is bad writing. I can't write to save my life so I can't judge as harshly. :p
Yeah that paragraph grated on me too . It seems clumsy especially as TV Btvs often touched on issues like this with more class (in my opinion) and humour .
 

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I was trying to place this in the timeline too. I was wondering as early back as Checkpoint perhaps? Before Blood Ties? Did it mention Dawn being aware she was the key? Too early to tell yet perhaps.

I have read many books that focus on Buffys wardrobe the way this author did, I always see it as a bit unnecessary. Perhaps the author wanted to point out the contrast between Buffy's regular dress and Faiths regular dress. I did like Buffy's dialogue and thought it has stayed well in character for her. Some are not quite as quick witted. I am also glad she did not dismiss the old man rambling about the sea - this is obviously a clue as it has been before in season 5.

I had assumed the sea monster at the beginning was linked to the sealions and what ever comes from the ocean. Monsters wearing human skin are rarely good ones. The gang went to the beach at the start of season 5 I thought, Buffy slayed the football? Xander breaking a bone so early on is annoying - he is now maimed and useless for a fight. I can see him surfing, I guess a long board, which is not a hard thing if he can skate. Getting dumped by the wave - great! I was there with him. But also so so glad this is not on the tv screen, instead in my mind where I can keep the waters more murky.

Vampires leaving town? Convenient to get them out of the way.

So far an easy read and just the kind of story I want to get in to.
 

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I ve done the homework :D .

It's a bit of a mixed bag from my perspective . I see a few flashes of the humour that makes the tv show so special for me .

I m not convinced that the signature BTVS fightscene translates well to the printed page . Also ,is it just me or does book Buffy seems a little less mature than her season5 counterpart ?

This is my first buffyverse novel too so I m still getting used to the medium .
 

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I remember reading this book first time around and not liking it very much. It had nothing to do with the writing, I think Christopher Golden is one of - if not THE - best novel writers in this verse, but I think the story lacked for me. I'm interested to see if that will change reading it again ten plus years later. I think the prologue and the opening chapter were solid and well written, so I'm excited to see where we go from here, even if I have negative thoughts about the book overall.

It does bother me a little how much the novels depend on locations like Docktown and The Fishtank. They were both throw away lines in early seasons that the novels seem to have adopted as their own. Whether that is to separate them more fully from the show, I don't know, but I find it irritating that we spend a lot of time in locations that we know nothing about.

As violent as BtVS sometimes is, I can't help but think that something like 'the ferret guy' and the waitress never would have made it onto the show. I sort of agree with @Hunga Munga in that sometimes the fight scenes get lost in translation, but I think this instance is WAY too violent. But then again, I also find it stupid that Buffy went hunting for something without any sort of weapon.

Even though I've read this before and remember certain scenes and plot points, I was a little surprised at finding out that this was set in S5. I thought Buffy in the prologue was acting very much like her S3 self, especially the way she referenced Faith. This wasn't the S5 Buffy that we knew and I wonder if that was because Golden was writing this before S5 had fully aired?

There's also the fact that, even in just the first chapter, there are some heavy Buffy/Xander undertones being displayed, what with Xander stepping into the 'dad' role when it comes to Dawn liking a boy - which makes the comics even more uncomfortable, lol.

There are times when I was reading these novels when it was clear to me that the writers had really just signed on for a pay check. They were given the bare bones of this show - character names, the purpose of the show, the basis of the Slayer, etc - and they run with it. This is why I think that there are some novels where things don't add up - Wesley, but no Faith, Xander and Cordy still together while Angel is in LAl. But I honestly think that Golden is a fan of the show, and I think he does everything he can to make his characters as believable as the 'real' writers do. Let's be honest, the novels are professional fanfiction, but I think that Golden is the best among them at getting all of the characters mannerisms and speech patters perfect. His Buffy is always perfect and I love that about him.
 

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There's also the fact that, even in just the first chapter, there are some heavy Buffy/Xander undertones being displayed, what with Xander stepping into the 'dad' role when it comes to Dawn liking a boy - which makes the comics even more uncomfortable, lol.

There are times when I was reading these novels when it was clear to me that the writers had really just signed on for a pay check. They were given the bare bones of this show - character names, the purpose of the show, the basis of the Slayer, etc - and they run with it. This is why I think that there are some novels where things don't add up - Wesley, but no Faith, Xander and Cordy still together while Angel is in LAl. But I honestly think that Golden is a fan of the show, and I think he does everything he can to make his characters as believable as the 'real' writers do. Let's be honest, the novels are professional fanfiction, but I think that Golden is the best among them at getting all of the characters mannerisms and speech patters perfect. His Buffy is always perfect and I love that about him.
I havent read much of the comics - and at this point I can easily see Xander being a dad/protective brother figure - but in Checkpoint (?) he gets upset at Dawn not crushing on him anymore.

I agree with your last paragraph. The novels are no more than professional fanfiction - but I can pick up any of these books and not worry about surprise spuffy porn.

Golden is a stand out writer in the Buffyverse.
 
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