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I thought for fun lets try and work out how The Wish timeline ended up the way it did?
How did Buffy never end up in Sunnydale? What became of Spike and Dru? How did Angel end up imprisoned etc. Also what do you think happened after? Okay we know that Giles changed it, but let's just say there is an alternate universe where he didn't and the Wishverse is still going on. (I always assumed that's where Vampire Willow came from.)
I'm going to say it goes like this.
Buffy after staking Lothos tells her parents about it which leads to them trying to institutionalise her, so she flees and ends up living life on the lamb, until a Watcher finds her and gives her accomodation in Cleveland. However Buffy's rebellious spirit causes her to have a bad relationship with him or her. Being rejected by her parents, living desperately, and fighting Lothos etc have had a bad effect on the Buffster.
I reckon Angel and Giles teamed up to fight The Master. Together they barely managed to stop The Harvest.
Later when the Master started to open the Hellmouth from below, Angel and Giles, without Buffy perhaps went to greater lengths and discovered a spell that could seal the Hellmouth, not permanently, but temporarily. (Explaining why the earth hasn't been sucked into hell.)
The Master still rises as Willow and Xander, being more modern are able to fly under the radar a lot more than the Masters old, archaic Vamp minions. They are able to bring him more prey and The Master in a one on one fight kicks the shit out of Angel and keeps him locked up.
With Angel gone, Giles is forced to gather together a team. (We can assume that Jenny also still comes to Sunnydale to monitor Angel, and sadly is either meat for the Master, or is still alive, but not in a relationship with Giles. I'd like to think she is alive, so that some things are better in the Wishverse.)
Spike and Dru, I can imagine showing up in Sunnydale, getting along with the Master at first due to him respecting Spike and Drusilla's penchant for cruelty. I'd like to think that it was Spike who also convinced the Master to live above ground and have more modern equipment.
I personally think the Master doesn't just rule Sunnydale, but has an entire empire.
Vampires all over the world worship the Master and after he rises and takes over a small town, several other Vampires start to do the same. Small towns even cities are ruled by Vampires. Some are out like Sunnydale, whilst others, perhaps it's more behind the scenes, like the Vampires control the police etc. Maybe Lothos is still alive. (Perhaps Buffy told her parents before she slayed him and fled before his attack on Hemery High. As a result Lothos now rules over LA.)
All of these towns are connected loosely at least to Sunnydale, with the Master being the Vampire overlord (this explains why Buffy knows about him in The Wish, why Giles and Anyanka say the WORLD is different. Sunnydale isn't the world. IMO it's effects have to be beyond Sunnydale.)
With this in mind Spike and Dru I reckon are probably Vampire king and Queen of another town in California, as the Master will hav sent them there, and they'd probably rather be rulers of some place than in his court. (Maybe Spike and Dru rule over Santa Carla LOL)
As for what happens next, well I reckon Kendra is too old to be the Slayer by this point and so Faith is called. Faith's first watcher is killed by Kakistos, After this Wesley becomes Faith's watcher and they both are sent to Sunnydale to try and take down the Vampire king The Master to stop their numbers growing.
How it goes from there however? Who knows. Maybe Faith get's her own Scooby gang made up of who's left. Tara as far as we know is alive and can join Faith. Gunn would probably head to Sunnydale. Again he would know that the Vampire empire comes from Sunnydale, so realistically he'd head there and meet up with Faith.
Faith's Scooby gang would therefore consist of herself, Wesley, Gunn, Giles, Tara and maybe if he escaped, Oz.
I'm not sure how they would deal with the Master, though it would be fun to see.
How did Buffy never end up in Sunnydale? What became of Spike and Dru? How did Angel end up imprisoned etc. Also what do you think happened after? Okay we know that Giles changed it, but let's just say there is an alternate universe where he didn't and the Wishverse is still going on. (I always assumed that's where Vampire Willow came from.)
I'm going to say it goes like this.
Buffy after staking Lothos tells her parents about it which leads to them trying to institutionalise her, so she flees and ends up living life on the lamb, until a Watcher finds her and gives her accomodation in Cleveland. However Buffy's rebellious spirit causes her to have a bad relationship with him or her. Being rejected by her parents, living desperately, and fighting Lothos etc have had a bad effect on the Buffster.
I reckon Angel and Giles teamed up to fight The Master. Together they barely managed to stop The Harvest.
Later when the Master started to open the Hellmouth from below, Angel and Giles, without Buffy perhaps went to greater lengths and discovered a spell that could seal the Hellmouth, not permanently, but temporarily. (Explaining why the earth hasn't been sucked into hell.)
The Master still rises as Willow and Xander, being more modern are able to fly under the radar a lot more than the Masters old, archaic Vamp minions. They are able to bring him more prey and The Master in a one on one fight kicks the shit out of Angel and keeps him locked up.
With Angel gone, Giles is forced to gather together a team. (We can assume that Jenny also still comes to Sunnydale to monitor Angel, and sadly is either meat for the Master, or is still alive, but not in a relationship with Giles. I'd like to think she is alive, so that some things are better in the Wishverse.)
Spike and Dru, I can imagine showing up in Sunnydale, getting along with the Master at first due to him respecting Spike and Drusilla's penchant for cruelty. I'd like to think that it was Spike who also convinced the Master to live above ground and have more modern equipment.
I personally think the Master doesn't just rule Sunnydale, but has an entire empire.
Vampires all over the world worship the Master and after he rises and takes over a small town, several other Vampires start to do the same. Small towns even cities are ruled by Vampires. Some are out like Sunnydale, whilst others, perhaps it's more behind the scenes, like the Vampires control the police etc. Maybe Lothos is still alive. (Perhaps Buffy told her parents before she slayed him and fled before his attack on Hemery High. As a result Lothos now rules over LA.)
All of these towns are connected loosely at least to Sunnydale, with the Master being the Vampire overlord (this explains why Buffy knows about him in The Wish, why Giles and Anyanka say the WORLD is different. Sunnydale isn't the world. IMO it's effects have to be beyond Sunnydale.)
With this in mind Spike and Dru I reckon are probably Vampire king and Queen of another town in California, as the Master will hav sent them there, and they'd probably rather be rulers of some place than in his court. (Maybe Spike and Dru rule over Santa Carla LOL)
As for what happens next, well I reckon Kendra is too old to be the Slayer by this point and so Faith is called. Faith's first watcher is killed by Kakistos, After this Wesley becomes Faith's watcher and they both are sent to Sunnydale to try and take down the Vampire king The Master to stop their numbers growing.
How it goes from there however? Who knows. Maybe Faith get's her own Scooby gang made up of who's left. Tara as far as we know is alive and can join Faith. Gunn would probably head to Sunnydale. Again he would know that the Vampire empire comes from Sunnydale, so realistically he'd head there and meet up with Faith.
Faith's Scooby gang would therefore consist of herself, Wesley, Gunn, Giles, Tara and maybe if he escaped, Oz.
I'm not sure how they would deal with the Master, though it would be fun to see.

Angel6
A great hypothesis I love it