Question Was Season 4 really that bad?

[Nothing13]

Angelus is ridiculous, this isn’t the quiet sinister Angelus we’ve had before in Buffy S2 or even pretend Angelus in Enemies/Eternity. This is S3 Dork!Angel but evil. If this Angelus was in S2 I think Buffy may have staked him earlier in complete annoyance 😂

I agree.
He was too loud/talkative, goofy, crude and overhyped for no reason with the ridiculous vampire/demon bar.
I also find him less effective in Angel season 4 than I do in Buffy season 2, Amends' flashbacks and pretend Angelus in Enemies and Eternity. He was more annoying than sinister and evil. He was too overacted.

I think he didn't have that kind of "poetic evilness" that he had in Btvs early seasons and Ats1. His kind of evilness was always linked to a form of corruption and mockery of "goodness": mockery of Christianity or "important" festivities (mockery of Christmas in Amends' flashbacks, mockery of Saint Valentine's Day in Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered).
Also, I have noticed that Angel, from Ats season 3 onward, was represented as more goofy and stupid. For some reason, Angelus became more annoying (as his depiction in TGIQ flashbacks).

-Stoic and angsty brooding Angel of early seasons turns into sinister and evil Angelus.
-Goofy and dorkish Angel of later seasons turns into annoying Angelus.

My problem of Angelus' depiction in Ats 4 summarized 😂:

Angelus: Dear Buffy. I'm still trying to decide the best way to send my regards.
Spike: Why don't you rip her lungs out? It might make an impression.
Angelus: Lacks... poetry.

 

[Bop]

The Cordy/Connor stuff was terrible.

Agreed but it always is 😂

Willow coming back and making a joke of all the show's problems and defeating Evil Cordy relatively easily made the show look worse in context .

I don't see who else could have re-ensouled Angel or fought Jasmine magically.

The writers then flipped things suddenly making Faith suicidal and Angel spout clichéd trite nonsense that had no basis with what came before.

I wouldn't say Faith was suicidal I think she just had a strong 'it is what it is' attitude toward dying for a good cause.

 

[Kendar]

Angelus is ridiculous, this isn’t the quiet sinister Angelus we’ve had before in Buffy S2 or even pretend Angelus in Enemies/Eternity. This is S3 Dork!Angel but evil. If this Angelus was in S2 I think Buffy may have staked him earlier in complete annoyance 😂

Very much this. you know how many humans Angelus kills during all of this? 0. Zip. Nada.

He's so unlike his former self in Season 2 that I spent most of the time thinking that Angel was running a deep con for some reason.