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Would you prefer Giles/Buffy or Wesley/Faith?

DeadlyDuo

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People seem to like some really odd romantic pairings. I often wonder how they've managed to come up with those pairings watching the same show that I have. I think anyone seriously wanting to see Giles and Buffy together though must have some real issues. It's just disturbing and goes against everything we see from both of them. So by default Wes and Faith.
Normally when people ship things, they see something they like in both characters and ignore everything else. For Giles/Buffy this could be Giles' uptightness and Buffy's relaxed attitude which translates into Buffy teaching Giles to relax or what have you. The whole father/daughter dynamic is irrelevant to shippers because Buffy and Giles aren't actually related. Characters only have to look at each other to get shipped together. Hell, people ship Sam and Dean together from Supernatural and they are actually brothers so shipping isn't always the most rational of things.
 

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I think there's an odd psychology to many ships, that is many would be opposed to it in real life, but as part of a fictional world they feel free to go with it (though sometimes they'll actually twist the canon--sometimes very cleverly--so that the shipped pair being siblings, for example, is no longer an issue). And I'd be surprised if most of the girls I saw reading Flowers in the Attic decided to bang their own brothers or other relatives over it, it was more of a compelling story (and perhaps the taboo/doomed element makes it more dramatic). I might share my theories later, but given how many shippers there are on this board, I'm kinda scared to. :p

Shipping is not my thing, though I'm generally amused as bemused by it, and sometimes interested. I can enjoy the fics, but I don't get emotionally invested in them. And I've seen Giles/Buffy vids on YT and might've even found it sweet, though usually funny (I'll give them points if they're clever enough in how they put it together), but I don't take it seriously and it's not something I'd want to see happen in canon (which had way too much shipping and teasing for my taste anyway). There's a song about shipping, btw...found it:


I once joked about a certain perverse ship I was going to create in the Potterverse to "win the internet." (This is actually original enough that I don't think anybody has done it yet, and it's offensive on so many levels, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone already did. Not that I was ever serious about making the ship, and if I did then it should've been obvious I was being silly.)

But then I got to wondering how veela and centaurs in the Potterverse would get along (I think they'd either appreciate each other or hate each other passionately) and after other sources I tried to see if anyone did a fanfic on them meeting. And so doing I stumbled across the most bizarre Draco/Harry fic that blew my mind (from the 2 chapters I think I skimmed, Harry is part veela, can't recall the details, and Draco essentially "forcibly seduces" him and gets him pregnant--don't ask--and the sex stuff was extremely graphic to the point I think most porn companies don't go there), and I was sure it was a "troll fic" that I heard about (written simply to tick off the fans), and the thousand reviews made me think I was right...so I looked at the reviews and they were almost all glowing. Even the few that weren't were more of constructive criticism that had to do with how the characters used magic. At that point I knew that to "win the internet with the most perverse union possible" was simply not possible to me, not even I have the imagination for it. And after being blasted with that I've found most other shipping fics tame by comparison. :eek:
 
Ethan Reigns
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Love the video! Seems to express the reality of a lot of fan forums.
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Drarry is an incredibly popular ship, you'll find much weirder stories in the potterverse than that

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@thrasherpix When it comes to fanfic, most people tend to go by a "ship and let ship" motto. Basically if you don't like a ship, that's fine it's up to you and not everybody is going to like everything, but don't go into a fic featuring that ship and start hating on it. So you will get some weird combinations, but people who don't like the ship won't read the story, and those that do are more likely to be invested in what happens.
 

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Well neither really.
Buffy and Giles is pretty wrong on a couple of levels. Yes these are two pretty actors playing interesting characters, but their dynamic on the show is firmly so father/daughter that shipping them is icky. Plus Giles is in a position of trust and (relative) authority when it comes to his charge; so it has that 'abuse of power' vibe about it.
I've actually read some fics- skipping over the smutty parts- and have never been remotely never convinced.

Wes and Faith is less problematic but its still kinda shallow. In the beginning Wesley was an oaf and Faith was contemptuous of him, then he had her arrested and she later tortured him. Like many relationships in the B-verse this lends itself to an interesting dynamic going forward, but not a romantic one. Why?
Faith's interest in guys is usually pretty obvious surface level flirting (Giles, Gunn, Wood) and yet she never shows any interest in Wesley, beyond saying that he looks good in 'Salvage'. Slight material for a ship.
And Wesley shows even less interest in her, she is nowhere near his type. Faith is not Lilah or Fred (she is neither classy nor educated enough).
Again, its just boils down to 'two pretty people with an interesting past'

Some pairings just don't work. But at least the Wes/Faith was doesn't generate nausea.
 

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Giles & Buffy hands down !!!! They should have been and were meant to be together since S1 ................. NOOO I'm kidding !!! I pick Faith and Wesley without question!!! Buffy & Giles together was shocking for me to even imagine them as a couple when I saw a picture of them sleeping together it was ewww.
 
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I'm usually relatively open minded to some ships. But I must confess that Buffy/Giles does not belong in that category. No offense, I like them as characters but not in that sense. There I would rather go with Faith/Wesley :)
 

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Buffy and Giles...


Also not really a fan of Faith/Wesley. I do think that the actors have some chemistry between them. Even in Dollhouse I was caught of guard with the sexual chemistry between them while removing a chip in a restroom lol
 

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I totally ship Faith/Wesley wouldn’t it be so interesting with their history- you have Wesley’s baggage of being a bad Watcher to Faith (Wesley failed Faith) and then obviously Faith’s baggage of having tortured him. It’s perfect for a love/hate relationship that could actually be really sweet and beautiful for once.
 

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If you are thinking of a romantic ship, neither are suitable and for once, I would be glad that all ships sink in the Jossverse ocean.

I doubt Faith would consider Wesley to be worthy and I doubt Wesley would consider faith to be stable enough for a relationship.

I think less than 5% of the viewers would want to see a Buffy / Giles romance, especially since Giles had been with her mother - twice. That was a decent pairing and hooking up with her daughter would be seen by most people as unseemly. Or just plain wrong.
 

FirstEvil78

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Wesley and Faith could be a very spicy couple. I'd ship them. But I think that I'd ship more Spike and Faith. They had an amazing chemistry in Dirty Girls:

SPIKE. I got dangerous for a while.
FAITH. This before the soul or after?
SPIKE. After. But I'm over it. In case you get feeling dust-happy again after your long incarceration.
FAITH. Not if you're all repent-y. Takes the fun out of it.

They connect on this. Meet eyes.

SPIKE. You over it?
FAITH. More or less. I pull for the good guys now.
SPIKE. What's the "less?"
FAITH. Usual stuff.
SPIKE. Such as?
FAITH. I was thinking about looking up the guy with the bull-whip.
(then) Long incarceration.

Spike smiles a little. Likes this girl.


That scene had sparks. Gotta love Faith's self-confidence.
 
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