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In the middle of season 5. I had to delay my rewatch by a week or so for personal reasons.
Anyway it still holds up, but I think that Fred/Amy Acker might benefit from this season the most.
Leaving aside Illyria which obviously stretched her as an actress and gave her a kickass villain to play, even prior to that I think Fred is at her best this year for so many reasons.
I've said a lot of times that in seasons 3 and 4 Fred is my least favourite main character apart from the groomer Jasdelia and Connor. She's not actively terrible like those characters, but she kind of clutters the cast, doesn't bring anything new to it, and gets shilled too hard by the other characters who either fall madly in love with her, or keep going on about how fabulous she is. I also dislike all the attempts to make her too cutesy wutesy, and I personally despise the Gunn/Wesley/Fred triangle. I think it detracts from the Wesley/Cordelia friendship. For instance Cordy should have got to confront Wes about losing the baby rather than Fred. FFS she's known him longer. It's insane that after the episode where Groo comes back, Cordy and Wes technically don't interact until You're Welcome!
In s4 meanwhile she doesn't get that much to do. There's her revenge story arc that goes nowhere, and then she finds out about Jasmine, but again any of the group could have had that role and it wouldn't have been any different, except maybe Angel who would have been too powerful.
S5 however I think fixes these problems. Fred being the scientist of the group comes in just as handy and important for dealing with the cases as Wesley's paranormal knowledge, sometimes more so like in the Pavayne episode. Also they dial the trying to be cute stuff down, and instead show us why she is so lovable, by having her be the one who shows sympathy to the outsiders in the group like Spike and Harmony. At the same time however this also I think proves the characters worth in the show, as it's not a role Cordy, or indeed any of the other characters could ever have had. Also I like that through Spike and even to a lesser extent Harmony they give her a relationship that isn't just a romance, or guys fawning over her. Notice in S3, her and Cordelia never had any real relationship? It was all just her crushing on Angel and then Wes and Gunn fighting over her. Also her and Wesley I think is built up better over the course of the series as it's always there to some extent, but not as intrusive, cheesy and doesn't feel shoehorned in.
Then you toss in her moving death scene and her performance as Illyria and I'd say this is the year that Amy/Fred benefited from the most and I think that this year is maybe where Amy's reputation was solidified with viewers and fans?
Anyway it still holds up, but I think that Fred/Amy Acker might benefit from this season the most.
Leaving aside Illyria which obviously stretched her as an actress and gave her a kickass villain to play, even prior to that I think Fred is at her best this year for so many reasons.
I've said a lot of times that in seasons 3 and 4 Fred is my least favourite main character apart from the groomer Jasdelia and Connor. She's not actively terrible like those characters, but she kind of clutters the cast, doesn't bring anything new to it, and gets shilled too hard by the other characters who either fall madly in love with her, or keep going on about how fabulous she is. I also dislike all the attempts to make her too cutesy wutesy, and I personally despise the Gunn/Wesley/Fred triangle. I think it detracts from the Wesley/Cordelia friendship. For instance Cordy should have got to confront Wes about losing the baby rather than Fred. FFS she's known him longer. It's insane that after the episode where Groo comes back, Cordy and Wes technically don't interact until You're Welcome!
In s4 meanwhile she doesn't get that much to do. There's her revenge story arc that goes nowhere, and then she finds out about Jasmine, but again any of the group could have had that role and it wouldn't have been any different, except maybe Angel who would have been too powerful.
S5 however I think fixes these problems. Fred being the scientist of the group comes in just as handy and important for dealing with the cases as Wesley's paranormal knowledge, sometimes more so like in the Pavayne episode. Also they dial the trying to be cute stuff down, and instead show us why she is so lovable, by having her be the one who shows sympathy to the outsiders in the group like Spike and Harmony. At the same time however this also I think proves the characters worth in the show, as it's not a role Cordy, or indeed any of the other characters could ever have had. Also I like that through Spike and even to a lesser extent Harmony they give her a relationship that isn't just a romance, or guys fawning over her. Notice in S3, her and Cordelia never had any real relationship? It was all just her crushing on Angel and then Wes and Gunn fighting over her. Also her and Wesley I think is built up better over the course of the series as it's always there to some extent, but not as intrusive, cheesy and doesn't feel shoehorned in.
Then you toss in her moving death scene and her performance as Illyria and I'd say this is the year that Amy/Fred benefited from the most and I think that this year is maybe where Amy's reputation was solidified with viewers and fans?