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ILLYRIAN

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Mexico City has area's that are said to be sinking 20 inches per annum.

The ground levels in Naples, Italy keep dropping.

Jakarta in Indonesia has dropped some 4 mtrs in some areas.

The San Andreas land mass has spread apart by some 10 miles in places, that horizontal fracturing of the surface will cause an increasing magnitude earthquake at some point, be that somewhere in any direction of the fault.

Tokyo has some 1500 registered earthquakes each year, when will the next one over a magnitude 8.0 be.

Venice is sinking at a small amount of centimetres (2-3) each year and the sea level is rising a similar amount of centimetres each year, but combined they are becoming noticeable, suggestions have been made at 9 inches in the last century.

Yet the people in charge of the worlds countries keep risking the lives of the next generation. Personally I'd suggest they are buried in the sands of the continents.
 
In the US, Florida is being rapidly inundated by rising sea levels, but the lowest maximum height is in Delaware, where the highest ground is 60 feet above sea level.

About half of New Orleans is fifty feet below sea level with only a sea wall to protect it. That's roughly the height of a 5-storey building. We all know how this is going to end.
 
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And the current president of the USA seems to want to help Florida sink, odd that.
Parts of where I live are below high tide level.
 
I am too far inland to be worried about the sea. The water table on the other hand.... As long as I keep on top of my garden I should keep my little corner from becoming desert.
 
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Thing is, a desert is likely to be your best bet for ultimate survival, it might be a good time to get Solar power sorted out.
There are certain island nations that are nearly at sea level and will disappear soon enough.

Maldives 1.5 metres = 5 feet
Tuvalu 1.8 metres = 6 feet
Kiribati 2.0 metres = 7 feet
Marshall Islands 2.0 metres = 7 feet
Singapore 15 metres = 49 feet

Kiribati is easy to find on a map it is the only country that is in both the northern and southern hemisphere and the east and west hemisphere. The only other country that can make that claim is France because some of its far-flung empire are actually counted as provinces of France rather than colonies.
 
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And the sea level that meanders through the ground affects the fresh water levels.
There's probably something wrong with almost every location. If there is one that's perfect, they'd better keep it to themselves!
 
I am too far inland to be worried about the sea. The water table on the other hand.... As long as I keep on top of my garden I should keep my little corner from becoming desert.

Same here. I've never lived by the seashore. And I've definitely never picked up seashells there either. I really hope someone gets that joke, or I'm going to feel very old.

Growing up, it was a far greater risk that I was going to choke on the smells from local farms than the sea was going to become a problem for me. You had to make an appointment to see the sea. 😛
 
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Oh! you are one of those people who like touching themselves are you, well you said you feel v. old!
Growing up, it was a far greater risk that I was going to choke on the smells from local farms than the sea was going to become a problem for me. You had to make an appointment to see the sea. 😛
Thats where I am now! Dust from the crops turns the sky orange. I did grow up on the coast though. And in every single way it is a far easier life to live on the coast. So I see why people take the risk! I miss the beach so much, I havent been properly swimming in the ocean for a while because I knew I wasnt strong enough, but I am getting there and now all the bloody sharks are spotted 2 metres off shore.

The inlet is getting opened this week about an hours drive from me. That is aways worth an appointment to see once its all flowing. Absolutely beautiful dreamland down there. Crystal clear water, rocks and sea life. It never looks as good in pictures as real life. @ILLYRIAN you would know Denmark, thats where Im talking. I remember being told when I was a kid that Denmark would have Perths weather within my lifetime and it really is getting close to that. Gotta be a hippy billionaire to live there now, and one bad bushfire day could wipe the place out.

Its weird, all the climate science is saying that its the dryest winter we've had for decades, but the farmers are all saying its one of the biggest crops they will ever harvest. Half an inch of rain at the right time will blow previous harvest records. All about the timing I guess.
 
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Get someone to scrape a hole in the ground, cover the indentation with a plastic sheet, cover the plastic with water then cover the edge with sand so you can have a nice big beach.
Thats where I am now! Dust from the crops turns the sky orange.

It had its advantages, 'Ember, like peace and quiet, but the wind blowing the wrong way could sure ruin your afternoon. When I was growing up, all I wanted to do was graduate school and move to some city somewhere, like New York. Now, I've been out in the world awhile (don't ask how long awhile is, thank you), and I find I'm missing that peace.

I did grow up on the coast though. And in every single way it is a far easier life to live on the coast.

How do you mean? Just in terms of people avoidance? That does seem like one advantage. Another is just having a heck of a view when you get up every morning. My view when I get up is a health clinic. So close to as good as the ocean, obviously, but not quite as good. 😛

I miss the beach so much, I havent been properly swimming in the ocean for a while because I knew I wasnt strong enough

That was the right choice to make. Unless you happen to be related to Aquaman, I wouldn't recommend swimming if you're not strong enough. Even then, it would surely be embarrassing, as an Atlantean, to sink to the bottom because you can't swim.

I used to go swimming all the time, but I haven't in years. I live in a rural area but in an urban environment. We have a public pool, but it's nowhere near where I live. Not to mention full of humans, which is not my favorite thing to be surrounded by a lot of these days.

I am getting there and now all the bloody sharks are spotted 2 metres off shore.

It wouldn't do for you to get better, only to be eaten by a shark. I mean, I don't suppose you're strong enough to punch out any giant predators?

The inlet is getting opened this week about an hours drive from me. That is aways worth an appointment to see once its all flowing. Absolutely beautiful dreamland down there. Crystal clear water, rocks and sea life. It never looks as good in pictures as real life.

I imagine so. Or not. Depends on if you think I'm responding to the beginning of that paragraph or the end. 🙂

All about the timing I guess.

That's what the ladies always tell me. I mean, that is what they mean when they say "not in this lifetime," right? 😛

P.S. If you have a problem with the nickname, just, you know, tell me to knock it off. Or slap me. I do prefer the non-slapping option, but I'm peculiar that way.
 
How do you mean? Just in terms of people avoidance?
No, more like air pressure and consistency in weather and temperature. I really struggle with the swings in temperature and pressure changes inland, they are a LOT more noticeable to me. The coast where I grew up was easy to predict. Beach in the morning when it was still and calm, then the afternoon wind would blow in (the "Freo Doctor" as we call it) to cool the place down after a sweltering midday. I dont miss the heat, just the consistency, it never gets below 0 and then over 25C in one day, its more mellow. Plus, the coast is the populated part of the country here, so all the facilities and amenities are there. There is nothing where I am and less as the years go on while the farms continue to grow with automation.

When I was growing up, all I wanted to do was graduate school and move to some city somewhere, like New York. Now, I've been out in the world awhile (don't ask how long awhile is, thank you), and I find I'm missing that peace.
I used to go swimming all the time, but I haven't in years. I live in a rural area but in an urban environment. We have a public pool, but it's nowhere near where I live. Not to mention full of humans, which is not my favorite thing to be surrounded by a lot of these days.

I always wanted to get out to the country but now I want somewhere a little less isolated than this. Its just a bit too tough for me. There is a pool an 80km drive from me, but its only open in summer and outside so I get so sunburned and tanned and I already have skin cancer on my nose. I sometimes had the whole pool to myself, but other times there were 200 odd others in there with me. I would if prefer it was under cover and heated!

Thats why I think somewhere between the big city and tiny town would be a good balance. Someplace with 10,000-30,000 in population would suit me! Just gotta find it. On the coast!
 
I always wanted to get out to the country but now I want somewhere a little less isolated than this. Its just a bit too tough for me. There is a pool an 80km drive from me, but its only open in summer and outside so I get so sunburned and tanned and I already have skin cancer on my nose. I sometimes had the whole pool to myself, but other times there were 200 odd others in there with me. I would if prefer it was under cover and heated!

Thats why I think somewhere between the big city and tiny town would be a good balance. Someplace with 10,000-30,000 in population would suit me! Just gotta find it. On the coast!

Sunnydale started with 38,500 people according to the sign Spike crashed into with his De Soto but a subsequent crash into the sign showed 32,000 people. It was on its way to becoming your ideal town until its collapse into the sinkhole that was the hellmouth.
 
Sunnydale started with 38,500 people according to the sign Spike crashed into with his De Soto but a subsequent crash into the sign showed 32,000 people. It was on its way to becoming your ideal town until its collapse into the sinkhole that was the hellmouth.

Don't you just hate when you find what you're looking for and then it falls into a sinkhole? What are you going to do, though? These things happen.

Kitty: You're always telling me I'm going to wander off and fall in a hole. Well, where are these holes, Red?
Red: They're everywhere. You just can't see them.

No, more like air pressure and consistency in weather and temperature. I really struggle with the swings in temperature and pressure changes inland, they are a LOT more noticeable to me.

That's got to suck. A lot of the planet is prone to those big changes, certainly here in the US. I don't share the same kind of sensitivity to temperature and pressure changes as you, but I certainly don't enjoy them. I'd like to live somewhere that just stays temperate most of the time, like maybe a good fall weather pattern, cool but not cold.

The coast where I grew up was easy to predict. Beach in the morning when it was still and calm, then the afternoon wind would blow in (the "Freo Doctor" as we call it) to cool the place down after a sweltering midday. I dont miss the heat, just the consistency, it never gets below 0 and then over 25C in one day, its more mellow. Plus, the coast is the populated part of the country here, so all the facilities and amenities are there.

I'm not a fan of the heat. If I'd moved to Australia, as I almost did, they could have held bets on which would kill me first—the heat or the heart attack I would have had when I saw one of those head-sized spiders. That said, I do appreciate consistency.

There is nothing where I am and less as the years go on while the farms continue to grow with automation.

I get that feeling. I grew up in an out of the way area and it seemed that everything was disappearing as I aged, and that was some time ago, so I'm sure it's much worse now. The disappearing, not the aging. Well, okay, that too.

I have the opposite problem where I live now. There's a college near here, and the last few years, it's gotten progressively louder and more obnoxious around here. It's like it turned into a beach town all of a sudden. Which, since I already don't like being around large groups of people, is, as you can imagine, not really the best.

I always wanted to get out to the country but now I want somewhere a little less isolated than this. Its just a bit too tough for me.

Yeah, I get that. Some isolation can be peaceful, too much is an inconvenience.

There is a pool an 80km drive from me, but its only open in summer and outside so I get so sunburned and tanned and I already have skin cancer on my nose.

Around 49 miles. Sorry. I'm an American. I had to do some conversion math real quick. 🙂

The skin cancer on your nose—is it serious? My dad had some on his bicep when I was younger, but he was able to have it operated on and he was fine, aside from a pale patch of skin.

I sometimes had the whole pool to myself, but other times there were 200 odd others in there with me. I would if prefer it was under cover and heated!

Two hundred people? Hang on. I'm just going to pass out. I'll be back. ... Okay, I'm good. 😛

Seriously, though, that is way too many people for my comfort zone.

Sharona: You have a comfort zone?
Monk: It's not very - it's kind of - no.

Thats why I think somewhere between the big city and tiny town would be a good balance. Someplace with 10,000-30,000 in population would suit me! Just gotta find it. On the coast!

There are certainly plenty of places that fit the bill, I'd think. But whether or not they're available on the coast is the question.
 
I'm not a fan of the heat. If I'd moved to Australia, as I almost did, they could have held bets on which would kill me first—the heat or the heart attack I would have had when I saw one of those head-sized spiders. That said, I do appreciate consistency.
The heat would kill ya first 😉 the giant spiders are fine, they are almost friendly! Its the ones your dont see that ya gotta look out for. The bites can be pretty nasty. At least you can see the giant ones coming! (Or feel them crawling across your face in your sleep, easy to swat off, no sweat 😉 )

The skin cancer on your nose—is it serious? My dad had some on his bicep when I was younger, but he was able to have it operated on and he was fine, aside from a pale patch of skin.
Yeah its just a matter of getting it removed, its not serious. The general practitioner said she'd leave a scar so mum said to wait until the skin cancer bus comes out this way to get a proper referral for free rather than paying the GP to butcher my face. Its not large and the same spot my mum had one.

@ILLYRIAN we do have all those little lakes dotted all around here, and they are quite beautiful, but full of ticks! I prefer the beach, the moving water has less brain eating amoebas in it. I do have the space to put in a pool but not the inclination to care for it. I have a hard enough time with the garden! And if I dont keep that going, then yes, the whole place will become a salty inland sea.

The inlet almost stayed open the whole winter season anyway this year, I must get down there! I just worry with this little car because I have seen emus and giant racecourse goannas and of course roos on that road in the middle of the day. Poor things so displaced by the rising population down there.
 
The heat would kill ya first 😉

Quite possibly. I am not an enjoyer of heat. I was going to move there because I was engaged to an Australian woman. But never have I considered it since. I was in L.A. once, which was fun (and informative because of what I was doing there), but it was like having the sun sit on your shoulder. That was enough of that for a lifetime.

the giant spiders are fine, they are almost friendly!

Hm. Friendly spiders. I'm trying to ... no, no, it doesn't compute.

Its the ones your dont see that ya gotta look out for. The bites can be pretty nasty.

I'll look out for both, thank you. And I'll bring my zombie apocalypse kit. 😛

At least you can see the giant ones coming! (Or feel them crawling across your face in your sleep, easy to swat off, no sweat 😉 )

I'll sleep in a sensory deprivation tank. 😛

Willow: And what do they need all those legs for anyway? I'll tell you. For crawling across your face in the middle of the night!

Yeah its just a matter of getting it removed, its not serious. The general practitioner said she'd leave a scar so mum said to wait until the skin cancer bus comes out this way to get a proper referral for free rather than paying the GP to butcher my face. Its not large and the same spot my mum had one.

Yeah, that seems like a good choice. If it's not going to hurt you to wait, you might as well not pay someone to butcher your face. I've always said that. 🙂
 
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