Episode Discussion 1.01 "Ghost" - Aired 2/13/09 (FOX-US)

If no one has by the time I get back in, I'll put the episode on and see if I can find it.

I'll watch it again anyway and then I can at least give my thoughts on your whole question. Not saying it'll be right or helpful though! hehe 😛
 
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Thanks!
I don't remember this happening.
However, that's a very good thought!
I hope someone can answer this.
Most people probably can. I just assumed you were paying attention. Which sounds kind of testy, but really, when it turns out that you're confused about a line because you weren't paying enough attention... I mean, sheesh...

Boyd Langdon: The older man. You know him. He's the one who took you. They never found him.
Eleanor Penn: He said he was a ghost. You can't fight a ghost, but he was heavy, the weight of him... Ghosts aren't heavy. Ghosts are sheets with holes cut out.
 
I do remember him saying that...


I usually hate Pilots, but this was a great Pilot!!

Best one i have seen.
i never liked Buffy/angel first episodes.
 
Most people probably can. I just assumed you were paying attention. Which sounds kind of testy, but really, when it turns out that you're confused about a line because you weren't paying enough attention... I mean, sheesh...

Boyd Langdon: The older man. You know him. He's the one who took you. They never found him.
Eleanor Penn: He said he was a ghost. You can't fight a ghost, but he was heavy, the weight of him... Ghosts aren't heavy. Ghosts are sheets with holes cut out.

No, I was paying attention.
If I wasn't, I wouldn't be posting in this forum.
 
Dollhouse ep by ep; GHOST-let's try again!

GHOST

The good;
More involving plot, more drama and excitiment and more realistic depiction of the reality of the Dollhouse.

The bad;
The bike ride is stupid, such a Hollywood cliche that they turn out to be racing. Boyd is the worst sniper ever, demonstrating why you should always use a semi-auto rifle. Her client is also way to handsome as Joss and ED comment but if she'd turned up with an ordinary looking guy would we not know something was up? Plenty of pandering to the studio frankly. How does Sierra fire 3 rounds from her pump action shotgun without working the action?

Best line;
Addy "Nothing is what it appears to be" (how true that will turn out to be!)
also like Tophers
"Everybody who's running to something is also running away"

Packing heat;
Sierra with a shotgun and pistol (although she has a carbine in the chopper?), Boyd with a pistol and sniper rifle.

Kinky dinky;
ED dancing is always a treat. especially in her 'decent by half an inch' dress. She also does a twirl around the stripper pole move when she gets into the van (check out her film The New Guy for more in that vein). We also get to glimpse her having bondage sex with her client. On the other hand her sexy librarian look is also quite something. Giles says he has a thing about libraries/librarians, wonder if Tony Head knows?

How'd they get away with that?
All the stuff with the kidnapped girl and what happened to Echo's personality as a kid is horrific. Sierra's first treatment is hard to watch.

This weeks fantasy;
Sierra is a SWAT team commander, Echo is a bike-riding party girl and hostage negotiator.

Total number personalitites;
2 for Echo making a total of; 6
1 for Sierra making; 2
1 for Victor

Total dolls;3
Echo, Sierra and Victor

Addy is a bit British;
It's the tea again

Topher is a bit geeky;

Subverting the Hollywood cliche

Bondage;
Echo ties up her client during sex

Knocked out

Kills;
Sierra kills 2 of the kidnappers

Dolls injured;
Echo slapped around by the kidnapper

Capt subtext
Dr Saunders offers Echo a massage. One wonders how she danced so wonderfully after dropping a motorbike on her leg?

Happy hookers
This time Echo explicitly does have sex with her paying client

Know the face?
Recurring Joss Whedon stars 3 ;Amy Acker, Eliza Dushku and Ballards sparring partner was the 'walking action figure' Spike had to fight in season 6 of Buffy to get his soul back. Also look out for Tim Kellehen who was also in Dark Skies, another conspiracy-fest series where he played a similar character (his Dark Skies co-star Conor Farrell also turns up in Buffy as the soldier who takes over The Initiative)

Guantanamo

Fanfic
Plenty of bondage sex in fanfic

Missing scenes

Reminds me off;
Adele is very Lilah like whilst Dominic is very Marcus. The relationship between Active and Handler very reminiscent of Watcher and Slayer. Ballards FBI contact is called Loomis which may be a Halloween reference.The boat sequence was so Miami Vice I had to check that Boyd was wearing socks. The kidnapped girl stuff is reminiscent of the Angel ep 'Damage'.

Questions and observations;
Caroline remarks 'Like she always said', is this Mrs Dundee whom she refers to in her video? Obviously it's not ED doing all the bike work but can she ride at all? You wonder what the Faith on a motorcycle spinoff would have been like especially with ghost-Spike as sidekick? The first time I ever actually heard Lady Gaga was watching this ep. Caroline says 'Hello mom' in her video, is her family still out there? The kidnap victim's dad refers to 'That reality crap', Joss putting the boot in? ED refers to her first movie with period cars which was presumably 'This Boys Life'. Joss is a fan of BSG AND Millers Crossing, he sure has taste! Obviously the budget is pretty tight to judge by their comments. What does Echo mean when she babbles 'Is it bigger than your thumb?'

7 out of 10, combine this and Echo and it would be much better
 
An alright ep. Maybe it's just because it's the first episode. We had to learn more about the series. 🙂

I haven't watched Ghost for like 8 months so I've just know recently ED danced 'Just Dance'. It's one of my favorite song so I squeed. The first time I watched this ep, I didn't think it sounds good. 😛 Go Gaga.

And yes, Matt is really handsome.
I'm really glad he's back in 2 episodes even Alpha kaboomed him. 🙁

The negotiating was boring till Echo got her balls back and Sierra walked in.

It's just 7/10 for me too.
 
I really liked the pilot. Haa my sis's bf was like *DROOL* at Eliza in that dress. 😛
It's weird watching Dollhouse s1 again cuz i can never look at Boyd the same way now, if ya get what i mean. !
 
I really liked the pilot. Haa my sis's bf was like *DROOL* at Eliza in that dress. 😛
It's weird watching Dollhouse s1 again cuz i can never look at Boyd the same way now, if ya get what i mean. !

Well who didn't?:smile3:

Now just to be clear, I haven't watched season 2, I'm waiting for it on DVD so I can include the commentaries on my reviews so please don't spoil it for me:cat2:
 
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