10 Ways Buffy Copied 'The Lost Boys'

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1. The Lost Boys featured the first teen idol vampire pin-up

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Okay, in one significant way David is not a direct influence on Angel, Spike, Stefan Salvatore, Edward Cullen, et al , in that he revelled in his evil, vampire instincts, and wouldn’t have dreamed of chowing down on rats or raiding hospital blood banks. But David – played with an understated relish by Kiefer Sutherland – is the first cool, hip rebel without a cause-style vampire in film and TV history. He rides a motorbike, wears leather, has stubble and smoulders. He is the vampire as pop idol. He made being a vampire seem cool. He even shed a tear at one point, betraying – perhaps – a sensitive soul. He may be the bad guy, but he’s also a poster boy for turning to the dark side. He’s certainly a more interesting character than the wet Michael (Jason Patric).

2. The music of the night
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From the moment Echo And The Bunnymen’s jaunty version of The Doors’ “People Are Strange” strums into action over the opening credits, The Lost Boys marries pop music to the vampire mythos in a way that has shaped vampire soundtracks ever since. Okay, the bands that the Scooby gang would watch in The Bronze had slightly more alt cred than the strutting, poodle-rocker that Michael and his brother Sam watch on the Santa Carla boardwalk, but the underlying rationale is the same – this new style of vampire tale exists in the same cultural world as its viewers.

3. The geek hero
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Whedon is (justifiably) lauded for celebrating the geek: Willow, Andrew, Xander, among others. But the original geek vampire hunters were The Lost Boys ’ Frog Brothers – Edgar and Alan Frog (Corey Feldman and Jamison Newlander). We first meet them in a comic store, advising Santa Carla newcomer Sam (Corey Haim) to read a vampire comic, telling him to regard it as a “survival manual”. And they’ve clearly seen Rambo a few too many times. By the end of the film, Sam (himself an unashamed comics fan who sorts the store’s Superman comics into the right order) has become an honorary Frog Bro’ too.

4. teen soap
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A large element of Buffy was teen soap, featuring an impossibly good-looking cast (even most of the geeks) dealing with relationship problems. The Lost Boys got there first. Sam’s brother Michael (Jason Patric) only becomes involved with the vampires because he fancies a girl (Star, played by Jami Getz). The Lost Boys is as much a love story as a horror story.

5. dialogue to die for
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One of Buffy ’s greatest strengths was Whedon’s achingly witty dialogue. Admittedly The Lost Boys ’ script never matches his ability to create such an avalanche of snappy one-liners, but it does have its fair share of memorable lines. More importantly, you can certainly detect the seeds of the kind of gleefully quirky dialogue that Whedon would later refine in lines like “My own brother, a goddamn, shit-sucking vampire. You wait till mom finds out, buddy!” and “One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires.”

6. The culture show
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Characters in Buffy were always namechecking films, comics, TV shows, bands and other zeitgeist-trembling ephemera. As did The Lost Boys , with references such as “The bloodsucking Brady Bunch”, “Warp speed”, “The Flying Nun” and “The Attack of Eddie Munster”.

7. metaphor for life
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If you thought Buffy invented the idea of using horror tropes as a metaphor for teenage strife, think again. The Lost Boys ’ tag line – “Sleep all day. Party all night. Never grow old. Never die” – makes it clear that the film’s makers saw a clear parallel between being a vampire and being a teenager. Plus, Sam and Michael’s mum (Dianne Wiest) is a divorcee who (unknowingly) starts dating a vampire, allowing the writers to play with that old dramatic cliché – the unwanted potential new dad.

8. big bad businessman
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The Lost Boys even has a Big Bad, who, in true Buffy style, turns out to be an outwardly respectable businessman. Max may only be a videostore owner, but he is also a clear precursor to Mayor Wilkins and the lawyers of Wolfram And Hart.

9. vamping out
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The “vamp out” is a concept inextricably linked to Buffy The Vampire Slayer , so much so it seems improbable it could have originated anywhere else. But The Lost Boys got there first:
Michael: “If something happens down there, I won’t have the strength to protect you.”
Edgar: “If you try to stop us, or vamp out in any way, I’ll stake you without even thinking twice about it!”

10. santa clause
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Both The Lost Boys and Buffy take place in California, partly, no doubt, because that’s where Hollywood is based, but there’s more to it than that. California injects some interesting dramatic ironies into the vampire myth, not least because it’s just kinda fun having vampires in one of the US’s sunniest states. But also, the hedonistic California lifestyle with its population of bubbleheaded valley girls and desperate wannabes also provides a stark contrast to the scuzzy, bloody word of vampires.


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Never thought of that before, but thinking about it, the similarities are there....

Mmmmm David!
 
Food for thought. But I have two things to add.

1. Depends on if you buy that The Lost Boys was that aware of what it was doing or just stumbled onto those things? I think the latter myself.

2. The point of Buffy is that it takes well wore tropes and subverts them. Cordelia being a great example. She is set up as a walking cliche but turns out to be anything but. My point being that Buffy took what was created before and not only turned them into something original, but did it better than it had ever been done IMO.

Yeah not a big Lost Boys fan. It has aged really badly😀
 
I had never seen The Lost Boys until recently, after hearing people of my age talk about it as if it was fried gold, and I was then severely disappointed. I think I prefer the Buffy movie.
 
Wow, never really thought of those things, but they're spot on.
Might be why I still really love The Lost Boys and early Buffy. Both show their age but that's part of their charm. Might also suggest that Spike was doomed to me from the start, I never could stand David!

Also, *sad face* RIP Edward Herrman

Mmmmm David!

You didn't spell Michael right 😛
 
I didn't catch all that. I'm trying to think of the vampire movies before it that including "vamping out" and offhand I can only recall the original Fright Night (Evil Eddie was something of a geek as well, especially in the modern remake, but he turns into a vampire pretty quick, and is something of a sad, tragic figure as one of the undead). I'm glad the gross and silly ways the vampires died in Lost Boys (with the notable exception of David) was replaced by dusting in Blade (which also helps explain why they're so secret when there's no corpse to examine).

OTOH, it might be fun to see the bizarre insurance reports of sinks exploding with blood bursting from the pipes as happened in the Lost Boys. Or someone wondering if it's a sign of an apocalypse, and Angel or Giles saying, "That, or maybe a vampire died in your home." 😀
 
Huh. I forgot about the vamping out in that movie.

I used to watch this with my brother all the time when we were kids. Haven't seen it in years. It had some memorable bits. Like that saxophone . . . and the guy playing it. With the really weird lighting.

I also remember being mildly freaked out that Richie Rich's dad was the Big Bad in the end. 🙂
 
Oh I totally think they modeled Spike after David to some extent lol

I kind of disagree. I think whilst superficially there may be some similarities eg black coat and blond hair, to me that's where the similarities end as Spike and David have completely different personalities to each other. Spike was supposedly supposed to be Buffy's version of Sid Vicious whilst Drusilla was his Nancy. They came in to shake up the religious vampires of season 1.

I think it's fair to say that The Lost Boys was a trendsetter (and a damn good movie too) but I wouldn't go so far to say Buffy copied it. Buffy took the stereotypical damsel in distress victim and made her the thing monsters were afraid of.

Lol at the picture of the Santa Carla sign with the picture of the Santa Carla sign in it. Do you think there's a picture of the Santa Carla sign inside the picture of the Santa Carla sign inside the Santa Carla sign picture? Confusing I know.
 
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