31 Days of (Christmas) Spuffy

[Spuffy freak]

@TriBel i love your post and I wish they act so mature. Spike still has insecurities he needs a little more growing up to do, Buffy always have to assure him that they are not gonna breakup which I like actually finally Buffy is working harder for their relationship maybe a Bangel closure like this is exactly what they need and it will finally help Spike overcoming his insecurities. Can't blame him though being loyal for 100 years only to be dumped for a chaos demon will do this to a guy

 

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Day 2 - If Angel is made human at the end of Season 11, what would happen between him and Buffy and Spike? How would they all handle it?

It would change nothig between Angel and Buffy. To Buffy, the fact that Angel was a vampire, never was an obstacle to their relationship. To become human was his dream. She would have been perfectly happy with him as a vampire in S3.

Buffy is also long past that "I want normal" Phase. She doesn`t want that any more. Or - even better - she sees her life, as it is now, as normal, enjoys it and is happy with it.

Spike never wanted shanshu for himself. He didn`t want Angel have it in AtS s5. That was back in AtS s5. Spike is long past that, as well. He would be fine with Angel being huma. Actually he wouldn`t even care much about it.

Spike would never sire Angel. He wouldn`t want to taste Angel`s blood in his mouth and he certainley wouldn`t want to give Angel of all people his own blood.

Have we ever seen Spike siring anyone ? Back then, when he was soulles, chipless and evil ?

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[Puppet]

It would change nothig between Angel and Buffy. To Buffy, the fact that Angel was a vampire, never was an obstacle to their relationship. To become human was his dream. She would have been perfectly happy with him as a vampire in S3.

And with that paragraph, you just vocalized just one of my issues with Bangel; some see him leaving her and events of IWRY as being selfless, I see it as selfish because Buffy would be happy to have him in any incarnation. Those words ring so true for me.

Anyway, enough about Bangel, go about your day 🙂

 

[debbicles]

Spufflings!!! Gotta love it.
Day 1: I never understood why Angel trusted the PTB. Didn't they twist and ruin everything including Cordy?
No I don't think they would or should send a snowstorm. In their capricious and uncaring way what they might do instead is knock Angel off his perch. Don't know what would happen after that.
I think Spike has too much zest for his unlife but if he thought it would help anyone, not just Buffy, I think he'd go down fighting instead. After all isn't that what happens in NFA?
Day 2: can't comment as haven't read comics yet.
 

Day 2 - If Angel is made human at the end of Season 11, what would happen between him and Buffy and Spike? How would they all handle it?

It would change nothig between Angel and Buffy. To Buffy, the fact that Angel was a vampire, never was an obstacle to their relationship. To become human was his dream. She would have been perfectly happy with him as a vampire in S3.

Buffy is also long past that "I want normal" Phase. She doesn`t want that any more. Or - even better - she sees her life, as it is now, as normal, enjoys it and is happy with it.

Spike never wanted shanshu for himself. He didn`t want Angel have it in AtS s5. That was back in AtS s5. Spike is long past that, as well. He would be fine with Angel being huma. Actually he wouldn`t even care much about it.

Spike would never sire Angel. He wouldn`t want to taste Angel`s blood in his mouth and he certainley wouldn`t want to give Angel of all people his own blood.

Have we ever seen Spike siring anyone ? Back then, when he was soulles, chipless and evil ?

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Didn't he sire Ford in Lie to Me?

 

[GoSpuffy]

I'm not even sure Angel would go to Buffy. He has some integrity in his actions and he knows buffy has chosen Spike. He is by nature a loner. He isn't close to the people around Buffy so he'd rather be surrounded by his current friends while making the transition.

 

[debbicles]

Actually GoSpuffy, you could be right. I think we don't see who actually sires Ford so it could be Dru. But was she strong enough?

 

[GoSpuffy]

Actually GoSpuffy, you could be right. I think we don't see who actually sires Ford so it could be Dru. But was she strong enough?

Well he couldn't run away because he was locked in so he was easy food. And dru needed to be fed. I don't know why I assumed it was Dru actually?

 

[Priceless]

Haven't seen the episode in a while, but didn't Spike sire Sheila in School Hard?

 

[Puppet]

Who's up for day 3?
 

Haven't seen the episode in a while, but didn't Spike sire Sheila in School Hard?

He fed Sheila to Dru, chances are Dru sired her. I'm positive Spike never sired anyone in canon, my years writing fanfic is telling me this 🙂

 

[Priceless]

I have another question if no one else wants to go? 😳🙄🙂
 
Day 3 - If things had gone differently in 'Crush', would Spike have staked Dru to prove his love?

 

[Spuffy freak]

Day 3 - If things had gone differently in 'Crush', would Spike have staked Dru to prove his love?
Yes, he did so much to prove it and his twisted mind told him that it's a grand romantic gesture, Spike is not the one to back off from these gestures

 

[gnarl]

Day 2 - If Angel is made human at the end of Season 11, what would happen between him and Buffy and Spike? How would they all handle it?

Well, Angel seems to have a thing going on with Illyria so I'm not sure it would effect Buffy's romantic life at all really.

Day 3 - If things had gone differently in 'Crush', would Spike have staked Dru to prove his love?

No, I don't think he really could have, just like I don't think he would have set Dru on Buffy if she hadn't given him his 'crumb'. Even with a soul, him and Angel seem to be unable to kill Dru. Her madness and emotional vulnerably coupled with their residing care for her ensures it.
- Hey, it's just occurred to me that when Angel killed Darla it kind of was a romantic gesture and a way to prove he was on Buffy's side. Do you think Spike knew about that and was like "I know how to prove myself to Buffy, I'll kill my sire!"

 

[PaulParmar1]

Day 3 :
Yes Spike would have absolutely staked Dru to prove his love if things had gone differently in Crush

 

[GoSpuffy]

I think he would have done it but it might have killed his love for Buffy. He would have regretted his actions and blamed Buffy. Unless he could find a way to blame Angel because he really likes that a lot. I can see him saying you killed darla, you made me kill Dru, this is all your fault!

 

[WillowFromBuffy]

I really like to think he wouldn't. I don't think even he knew if he would actually be able to do it. Selfless and Destiny suggest Spike still loved Dru even after he got his soul back. Angel could easily rationalise that Darla was soulless. Spike does not work like that.

 

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Day 3 - If things had gone differently in 'Crush', would Spike have staked Dru to prove his love?

Well, I don`t see, how he could have gotten out of it. But it would have broken his heart. Maybe he really would have backed down the very last second. He did not love Dru anymore but she still meant something to him.

Anyway, it would have been a real awkward scene, if he would have gone through with it

Buffy: "Okay, so maybe someday there might be love for you. Just maybe. And someday."
Spike: "Fine". Stakes Dru. Frees Buffy of her chains.
Buffy: "See you around then" Leaves. Spike stays behind and starts sweeping Dru`s ashes into an ashtray.....

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[TriBel]

i love your post and I wish they act so mature.

I'm actually being very pragmatic. The comic sales have dropped - I remember seeing a comment that many Bangelers had stopped reading after Twilight. I don't know whether they'll risk losing more Spuffy readers than they''ll pick up Bangle supporters. Financially, it might not be in their best interests to disrupt Spuffy. There's a logic to what I said but I'm not sure Angel will become human. My reading of the comics so far suggests - to me - that he'll undergo an "epiphany" of sorts - gain knowledge of an event in his past (perhaps to do with his sister?) that'll have a fundamental effect on how he thinks of Buffy.

Day 3 - If things had gone differently in 'Crush', would Spike have staked Dru to prove his love?

This presupposes I can remember what happened in Crush! He might have done - as @Spuffy freak says, he likes his gestures but, I think it would have ultimately destroyed him. I've just realised - it's history repeating itself. He'd already killed one mother - and, to my mind this resulted both in his love for Buffy and his hatred of Slayers (plus a good dose of self-hatred/destructive behaviour). Killing another mother would have amplified this. His love for Buffy would have become more intense (justifying his sacrifice) and he'd have hated the Slayer more (for "making him do it) and projected his self hatred onto her. TBH, I think he'd have imploded and tried to kill Buffy as a form of suicide. Here's his reunion with Dru in the Spike comics. I think it illustrates his confliction.

I REALLY like this dialogue!

 

[WillowFromBuffy]

"At this moment, if only for a moment, I am home." Aaaaaaaw! Melt 😀

 

[nmcil12]

Thanks Ever for posting the comic book panel - wonderful text but it reads to me as very sad and with a quality of despair about about all is past and can never be again -revisited with enormous amount of regrets plus a continued sense of great loss for Buffy and that relationship.

I do think that Spike, if it was required to save Buffy or Dawn, hell maybe even one of the Scoobs or Giles would kill Drusilla but it would have a big impact on him. I always felt that the easy acceptance of Angel killing Darla should have had more attention in the series. Glad that the Angel series took up Darla's story again.

 

[debbicles]

Day 3: no I don't think Spike would have staked Dru. He took care of her for too long and she was still precious to him. It was just grandstanding. Look how he freed Buffy even when he threatened her.