5 best villains and 5 worst on tv

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You can include Buffy villains here, but try to vary it up a bit LOL.

Best

5/ Glory
4/ The Master (classic who only. Cannot stress that enough.)
3/ Khan (star trek)
2/ Callisto (Xena)
1/ Daleks

Worst

5/ The sex ghosts in Doom Patrol
4/ Warren Mears
3/ Jasmine
2/ Chuck in s15 of Supernatural
1/ Missy (New Who. The worst villain in anything. I'd also include her in 5 characters who killed a series.)
 
My least favourite is Negan from the walking dead.
 
Best
The Daleks
Voldemort
The Gentlemen
Glory
Dark Willow

Worst
The Trio
Malfoy
Gollum
Jimbo, Dolph, and Kearny (The Simpsons)
Iraxxa (Doctor Who)
 
Not a definitive list, just off the top of my head: (Also no Buffy/Angel ones to make it interesting). Surprisingly I found the 'best' list incredibly easy but the worst list a struggle. I guess because bad villains are often very forgettable.

Best

1) Kingpin (Daredevil S1, S3) In S1 Wilson Fisk is...interesting, but overall the season is more about Matt's struggles against this rather shadowy, remote figure. But holy hell, Kingpin comes roaring back WAY better in S3 and shows a lot more of his patient, cunning, manipulative side as he takes control of those who are supposed to be guarding him. Plus he has an awesome cameo in S2 which is nice foreshadowing.
2) Scorpius (Farscape S1-4) For longevity and evolution, for having an understandable (even sympathetic) goal that informs his every action. For being dangerous, relentless and damn creepy-looking. Probably the best sci-fi villain ever that I've seen.
3) Kilgrave (Jessica Jones S1, cameo S2 and 3) A one-season villain that casts a long shadow, thanks to a barn-storming performance by David Tennant. Kilgrave is by turns creepy, pityable, cunning and incredibly, dangerously inventive with his mind-control abilities. You don't doubt for a moment that this guy royally screwed up Jessica's life, mind and moral compass. Even in death he still haunts her. A chilling, psychological villain.
4) Homelander (The Boys) The best version of 'Evil Superman'; superior, sociopathic, a villain draped in the flag. Yet marginally less terrifying than Snyder's version of Superman.
5) Silco (Arcane) Maybe I'm cheating with 'Animated' but whatever. Silco is the kind of cold, calculating crime lord I love to hate. And yet you can understand him and his twisted relationship with Powder/Jinx humanizes him. Plus, in the end, he wins.

Worst

5) Moriarty (Sherlock) From a show that got many things about the Holmes mythology right this screeching, scenery-chewing buffoon is the most glaring exception. He is so irritating, so unbelievable as a criminal mastermind that even government feared, so out-of-place that I was relieved when he was killed off. A complete goon that could not be taken seriously.
4) Hush (Batwoman) I mildly enjoy the Hush graphic novel, a new character that was created to be Bruce Wayne/Batman's dark mirror in many ways but the Batwoman show, as even, turned Tommy Elliot into an idiot, and then made him a lackey to an even more pathetic villain...
3) The Master (Doctor Who) Every modern incarnation of The Master has been, in some key way, a massive misstep. Not enjoyable in the slightest apart from Derek Jacobi's brief cameo.
2) Damien Darhk (Arrow, Legends Of Tomorrow) *snort* Seriously edgy name, incredibly boring, hackneyed villain. Neal McDonough can't elevate this dim character that occupies too much screen-time. He is so insanely one-note evil. Boring.
1) Alice (Batwoman) You know what I can't stand in my villains? Whiny, self-pitying self-justification as you busily murder tons of random inoccents. And this one has spades of it. Wittering on about her tragic years of being kidnapped and held captive, or learning martial arts on a secret island or whatever tacked on nonsense the writers can shoe-horn in. Not to mention massive amounts of plot armor, confused 'evil' motivations, awful 'Alice In Wonderland' references, crummy fight scenes, cringe dialogue and awful acting performance. Urgh.
 
Puppet
Puppet
Ooh, Kilgrave, good one. Wish I'd remembered that for my list :)
Best
1) The Joker (but only in The Dark Knight movie)
2) Hannibal Lecter
3) Dahak (Hercules/Xena tv shows)
4) Angelus
5) The "Driver" (No One Lives, 2012): bad movie but interesting villain/main character

Worst
I don't know, probably Adam, The Trio, Moriarty, Jasmine.
 
Best

General Chang - Star Trek 6
Rumpelstiltskin - OUAT
Scorpius - Farscape
Weeping Angels - Doctor Who
Darth Vader
Dark Willow

Worst

Mary Ann Forrester - True Blood
Adam
Cora Mills - OUAT
Holland Manners
Thanos
 
Plasma
Plasma
Thanos as one of the worst villains? I’m desperate for an explanation to that 😳
thetopher
thetopher
Probably because he killed Loki, or the best version of him anyways. Personally I would say Thanos was one of the best Marvel movie villains, just behind Zemo.
Best

5: King Hagrid of The Last Unicorn. Granted, this is 95% because he was voiced by Christopher Lee who made him so compelling, even hypnotic at times. And many can relate to those who seek lost happiness, even if they unknowingly make themselves and others miserable in trying to capture a moment forever.

4: Bester of Babylon 5. Especially that friendly smile that mocked his victims. And the casual sadism despite his aloof demeanor. And yet he was one who knew love and I could see why he became the bastard he was (even as I think Susan could've saved civilization a lot of grief if she did blow him out of space as she almost did, though it would've been an end to her character as she'd have never gotten away with it, and a fast execution would be a mercy).

3: Fiona Goode of AHS: Coven Her sarcasm is hilarious, and her arrogance and anxiety are blended perfectly well.

That she looks, and sort of acts, a lot like my mom may influence me here, but I think it's in spite of that rather than because of it (my mom would love her and see her as a role model). Maybe it helps that her daughter is one of the few I'd consider on the side of the angels (at least as close as anyone gets), and yet rather than being enemies their relationship is...complicated.

Morality is so grey in this show that it's hard to firmly place one in the hero or villain camp, but I'd say this one is definitely a villain...and awesome to watch. Here, 1 minute (as I skip over a lot) as one of the examples I can post here without it being removed by the mods:



2: Palpatine of the Star Wars franchise. I know many will disagree with me on this, but hear me out.

This one is very rare for a media villain. He was slow, patient, methodical, controlled both sides of a war and got his mortal enemies to do the vast majority of his dirty work, got others to give him the power he "relunctantly" took, even the Jedi practically gift wrapped their Chosen One for him. The Jedi lost by playing the Sith game (this, btw, is why Luke was so important, and why he won--he tossed aside his lightsaber rather than using it as the Jedi Order before him had done, and he had struggled with arrogance and being like the Jedi who got wiped out before he realized he was playing into Palpatine's hands). A favorite scene of mine is Palpatine smiling, seemingly in relief, about as Kenobi says, "Sith Lords are our speciality." (I laugh.)

And to top it off...he WINS! (Granted, he planned to rule as Emperor for longer than a quarter of a century, but it's still a good run, and that's just counting his time as Emperor with "UNLIMITED POWER!!!".)

This is who Bester hopes to be when he gets older. Heck, maybe he was inspired by the character! 😀

1: Silco of LOL: Arcane. He was so complex, even though he didn't appear so at first glance. There is a lot of subtle scenes alone that show the conflict and complexity of his character. While his taking in Jinx/Powder wasn't ideal, it was the best she could've reasonably hoped for (there is one possible exception, but that probably wouldn't have worked out well either). Sometimes, he struck me as a lesser evil than the so-called heroes. All the heroes and villains are complex with the line blurred between them, it's just a few like Silco that is firmly on one side, and even so, he has a vision larger than himself, and has the ability to love others more than himself.

Honorable Mentions: Shego of Kim Possible (especially when paired with Drakken), but that's a little too silly of a show to include here, no matter how much I loved seeing and hearing her...and also Gaius Baltar of Battlestar Galactica who was a villain as long as I watched, but I understand he morphed considerably (and could be a grudgingly sympathetic one at times, even doing something surprisingly good or noble at times), so I'm just not certain enough to add him to the list. I was also tempted to add Riddick, but I can only say for Pitch Black, not the other media the character shows up in. I also want to add Regina/the Evil Queen (and/or Rumple) from Once Upon a Time, but that got messed up by continuing it several seasons after the story was done but the suits wanted to beat more money out of that franchise.

Anime has done some without real villains in the main cast (like Violet Evergarden) or where the line between villain and hero is too blurred (Princess Mononoke--many think of Lady Eboshi is a villain, but I consider her as much as an arrogant heroine as Princess Mononoke, and in the D&D alignment I'd have Lady Eboshi as Chaotic Good while Princess Mononoke that many see as the heroine as True Neutral, both as arrogant and fanatic as the other).

Worst:

This is hard for me as I generally won't watch those that don't interest me as they move the story forward (ironically, I'd be tempted to add Anakin to this list, but probably wouldn't because of his Vader aspect).

I'm NOT counting those just because I hated them if they moved the story forward in an organic way. For example, I hated Dolores Umbridge more than Voldemort and listening to her was often like listening to someone scratching a chalkboard, but she moved the story along in a way fitting to the story, so she's not on this list (thankfully, she didn't appear in the movies much beyond that one, and it would take someone like her to really push Hermione into breaking the rules). I'm also not counting media aimed for kids or horror movie franchises as I think they are necessarily held to different standards.

I'm also not going to list one as I expect it would generate outrage, and because I find the villain so annoying and dumb despite how they write him to be the boss of bosses, I don't watch enough to get into an argument who think he's an awesome villain. (I'm surprised he hasn't been listed as one of the best yet, but he probably will be.)

5/Emperor Shao Kahn of Mortal Kombat: Annihilation. Hilariously bad. (So were the heroes.) Couldn't take it seriously, but oh did I laugh...and then laughed again at the look on someone else's face when I convinced her to watch it. But I'm so glad someone gave this to me rather than me spending money it.

4/The Trio in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Realistic, when they're running around with freeze rays, sorcery, and the ability to warp time as they did repeatedly? Not really. They're actually the most silly villains (but not the dumbest, that goes to The First, who I won't be including here because I don't even want to think about season 7 here). They're more geek caricatures put into a reality where comic book gadgets and powers can manifest than "real life."

I'm going to limit myself to them for the Buffyverse, though I could add more (most are minor).

3/Amanda Waller of Suicide Squad. Technically she recruits villains, but she is one, just "on the right side of the law." (I'm not sure if she was supposed to be seen as a villain or not, but she is in my book.) And so idiotic that the writing drives me as nuts as the character herself.

2/Shinzon of Star Trek: Next Generation (movie): after learning of his origin I was greatly intrigued and fascinated, but ultimately....meh. Though not the only reason, this pretty much caused me to lose interest in the Star Trek franchise, at least on film (more accurately, the final nail in the coffin). (I still like the earlier stuff, for the most part.) Making me lose interest in seeing future installments of a franchise I was fond of earns a place on this list.

1/Avatar. I can't even remember, I think I repressed it. All I remember wishing about everyone on both sides of the conflict had died, and resentment for those who convinced me to pay money to see it that took me about a month to get over (I usually get over things in a day or so, especially over a movie). Normally I don't rant about what others love that I don't, but I did on this one before I firmly put it out of my mind and consider it a blessing that I barely remember it now. So I'm making whoever the villains (officially, and in my own mind) were #1 on this list.
 
Apologies for including movies. I don't know how I missed that was TV only. 😳 Since the use of computer and streaming (plus watching most movies AND TV shows on dvd in the last several years, which includes Buffy and Angel) over standard TV and cinema, they've all become blurred in my mind. Again, sorry for that. 🙁
 
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Nothing13
I have done the same mistake since i, also, watch princiaplly in streaming tv shows and movies. Also, i don't have many favourites villains of tv shows.
All of the replies saying the Trio make me sad! Like, I understand if you're speaking from a perspective of coolness factor, but in terms of writing quality I super love the Trio because of how accurately and meaningfully they reflect rampant nerd misogyny back at us and embody the metatextuality of S6. They're voyeurs, self-inserters, who view Buffy the way we view Buffy - she's allotted her simple category as a capital H Hero, and any sign of emotional fragility or humanity is a weakness that needs to be rectified. In the same vein, they cast themselves as the villains in their messed up game of noir theater. Their perception of villainy is as warped as ours. Villainy is wearing a lot of black and prancing around and building giant death rays to destroy the city. There's nothing real in it. Which means the moment that Jonathan and Andrew realize that their actions impact real people have so much weight. When they kill Katrina, Jonathan realizes that life isn't just a story. Katrina isn't a tool for him to manipulate to his own ends. She's a real human girl with wants and needs and desires and a family and when he participated in her rape and death her participated in the transformation of her from a human into a body, similar to the transformation from a character to a person. Death, sex, and narrative are all linked in Season 6 because they're all linked to dehumanization - no matter what, someone becomes a body for you to use. Andrew goes through the same journey in Storyteller, towards himself. He conceptualizes himself as a tortured hero or a suave villain to ignore the reality of his rampant loserness. To ignore that he killed his best friend. He has to come to terms that him and Jonathan were both people that couldn't easily be shoved into boxes because it made dealing with guilt easier or more convenient for him. I remember this writing just blowing me away when I first encountered it... such frank discussion of narratization and dudebro culture was something I'd never really seen before and just made such a giant impact on me.

Sorry, this ended up being more of a tangent than I expected 😛 To address the actual topic of the board,
Michael
from The Good Place (in Seasons 1-2 at least) was so fantastic and I think about him all the time..
 
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thrasherpix
Not convinced, I think the argument could be made for other villains and situations in the Buffyverse, and don't buy into the narrative of nerdbros. Many may be toxic and hateful, but so are others in many other groups, including feminism.
Hard to think of five without potentially forgetting a bunch, so I'm just going to do the first that comes to mind. It's in no particular order.

5 Best Villains in TV
The Governor/Phillip Blake in The Walking Dead
YED/Azazel in Supernatural
Wolfram & Hart in Angel
Katherine Pierce in The Vampire Diaries
Sebastian Monroe in Revolution

5 Worst Villains in TV
The First Evil in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
The British Men of Letters in Supernatural
Alex Drake in Pretty Little Liars
The Avatars in Charmed
Adam Monroe in Heroes
 
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