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Episode title: Lovers Walk

Season: Three


I hope this discussion gets more attention than the previous one! Come on everyone! Let's discuss Lover's Walk!

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I love this episode. Spike is one of my favorite characters, so it was nice to have him back in this episode. I really like the part when he's talking to Joyce in the kitchen. It's just so cozy!

And this episode hails my all-time favorite phrase: "Love isn't brains".
 
OK, I don't want the discussion to die again, so I'll say something, at least.

I remember this as a great episode, the one where I really started to enjoy Spike as a character (the scene with Joyce is so nice, agreed).

It's one of only two episodes written by Dan Webber (also "The Zeppo"), and he is a clever writer. The title in the original script is apparently "Lovers Walk" (not Lover's), and I like that one better with its double meaning.

Fantastic ending with Spike singing "My Way" Sid Vicious style!
 
Fantastic episode all round, I especially love the scene with Willow and Spike. Quite similar to the scene in The Initiative with him in her dorm room.

The episode itself is funny, entertaining, heartbreaking all in one. And the episode has such huge consequences for everyone by the end of it. Definately one of my favourites.
 
OldSwede said:
The title in the original script is apparently "Lovers Walk" (not Lover's), and I like that one better with its double meaning.
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It is. One of the essays I read for my thesis pointed out that the lack of an apostrophe made the title a "short declarative sentence." So one obvious meaning is that lovers are walking. But walking where? And how? And what else do y'all think it could mean?
 
They're pretty much walking to nowhere. Buffy has just told Angel she needs a break... Cordelia just told Xander to leave her alone after finding him with Willow, and Oz has walked away from Willow after finding him with Xander.

And to keep you all happy, I just fixed the title and took out the apostrophe!
 
I always enjoy this one.
I think this is the only time we ever see Buffy, Angel and Spike in action together - so for that reason aone it is a real treat. I always find that Buffy and Spike dominate the scene and wonder if it was then that they decided to bring Spike back in as a regular from season four.

I love how Spike brings chaos. He inadvertantly causes all the lovers to break-up and drives off at the singing 'my way' oblivious to the mess he's left behind.
 
SpikedBuffy said:
They're pretty much walking to nowhere. Buffy has just told Angel she needs a break... Cordelia just told Xander to leave her alone after finding him with Willow, and Oz has walked away from Willow after finding him with Xander.

And to keep you all happy, I just fixed the title and took out the apostrophe!
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Nice! I wasn't complaining, though, the apostrophe is on my DVD and in the episode guides, so I guess it crept in somewhere on the way.
 
This episode is one of those that I enjoy in a morbid-my-favorite-characters-are-getting-hurt kinda way. I just love the end montage, the music fits perfectly as a backdrop to them all doing their everyday things sadly because everything's been torn apart. And nicely contrasted against Spike barelling out of town, completely oblivious to the destruction he's left behind.
And I adore Buffy's closing speech to Angel:
"We're not friends, we never were. And I can fool Giles and I can fool my friends but I can't fool myself. Or Spike for some reason. What I want from you I can never have. You don't need me to take care of you anymore, so I'm gonna go. There is [Another way for us to see one another]. Tell me that you don't love me"
And when Angel is just silent because he can't say that? Beautiful. I mean I love both Bangel and Spuffy so I can completely enjoy this heart-wrenching scene.

I do have to say one of my favorite scenes is the Spike-and-Joyce one, for the plain surreality of it. And Angel's complete double-take when he sees it is just perfect! As James Marsters said he goes around to ge in, kill, grab book, get out but instead they end up 'Discussing our love lives over chocolate milk'.
 
It was one of those inevitable climactic big bangs that the characters had to go through to start making changes for the future.... for realising things about themselves and how they treat others. Huge watershed moment

I love those episodes, as I love this one!
 
Amazing episode. Standsout in a season jam packed with great episodes. Once again, Spike completely steals the show.
 
One of my favorite episodes, the best part is when Spike gives his little speech (also shows how smart he is). The music was fantastic, I love it, so sad yet calming.
 
Yes, I agree about the music. The song at the end fits so perfectly with what's going on, showing them all sad and alone.

This is the episode that no matter how many times I watch it, I always get goose bumps when it moves from showing Cordelia with the bar through her and not being able to see Xander to the cemetary. I always think that it's Cordelia's funeral, and it gives me goose bumps.
 
i think it is the best mislead that you see a funeral and its totally gaspy and then willow and buffy are walking through the cemetery saying how cordys going to be sorta ok. fantastic!
 
It's a great epsiode.
Very funny throughout, but still manage to end very sadly.
Think it is the first chance you have to feel really sorry for Cordelia.
The funeral mislead is almost mean though. I remember falling for it big time when I watch it for the first time.

Spikes entry is also great.

One thing though, I have never understand why Spike is at Buffy's home.
Not sure if I missed/forgot something obvious.
I thought he was supposed to go and get supplies to the spell.
But instead it seems that he went to Buffy, I mean, surely he could get those supplies himself.
Even though it turned out to be the right thing to do... but he couldn't know that, or could he?

Maybe he wouldn't want to leave town without another meeting with his favorite slayer 🙂

/SK
 
^ Willow told Spike she'd left her spellbook at Buffy's house. I think maybe Willow was hoping Spike would run into Buffy and Buffy would kick his ass and come rescue her.
 
Blondie Bear said:
^ Willow told Spike she'd left her spellbook at Buffy's house. I think maybe Willow was hoping Spike would run into Buffy and Buffy would kick his ass and come rescue her.
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Ah, I knew it was something... thanks!

One of my favorite lines from this episode is
Buffy - She saw these scores and her head spun round and exploded.
Giles - I've been on the Hellmouth too long. That was metaphorical, yes?

Also love how Buffy just guessing that Spike has Xander and Willow locked up at the factory 🙂

/SK
 
I loved the bit:

Buffy:what about the spell?
Spike: Sod the spell, your friends are in the factory.

Spike on form, as usual
 
Okay, here's a question. The magic shop that we see both Willow and Spike in, do you think that's the Magic Box? They are somewhat similar, it seems this shop is a tad smaller, but what do you think?

I do like Willow taking control in this episode though. When she's talking to Spike about doing the spell for him, but they'll be 'no having of any kind with me' talk to him. It was nice to see her put Spike in his place.
 
I am loving the diagram! 🙂 I think it is the same one too, I always have, it just makes things....cooler. Yay for the coolage.
 
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