A friendly note from VH to Drogyn

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Taake

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So, I felt it was prudent to put this out for all eyes to see as Willow My Love, as the Drogyn prefect, has unjustly been forced to take the brunt of this conversation and I felt bad that she had to face numerous voices alone, that's why I'm opening this up for both houses to see and I want you all to know that my reason behind this is not malice but I only wish to explain what has been going on.

There has been some hurt feelings about the banners Drogyn are sporting, joking at VH's expense, not all members have reacted negatively but some have. Personally I believe that this is based upon old grief as this is not the first time this has happened and it has left us as a house feeling rather targeted. Perhaps this was not your intent, but ultimately it is how it has come across.

The theme as I understand it was meant to be a parody of the other house themes, it's a funny idea but from my viewpoint I would like to say that ;

a) perhaps such a theme would have been more appropriate to save for a month when all houses had a noticeable theme so as not to target one house specifically

b) there's a fine line between funny and mean-spirited, unfortunately to many of us, your banners have come across as the latter. I realize this was probably not your intention, that it was a joke, but the spirit of it hasn't come off well and ultimately feels less like a parody and more like an attack on the house as I explained to Willow My Love

Now I know some of you will say "relax, take a joke why don't you?" and I can agree that though I was at first irked by the banners I quickly came around to simply finding them amusing and responded with a banner of my own.

That said, as this is not the first time it has happened it has caused some feelings to fester as many of us in VH cannot help but wonder why it's us? What we have done to deserve it, for again, when aimed only at one house and when it happens repeatedly it feels mean spirited rather than as a joke.

It may be unfair to hold new Drogynites responsible for what has happened in the past but I'm writing this to explain that these things are what are coloring our emotions, which not this one instance only, and why there's a feeling of being a little fed up with it.

House competition is encouraged and it's supposed to be in good fun. This time it has not come across as such and I thought you all should know what has been discussed about it and that in the future, I hope, that joking/teasing other dorms will be done on more even grounds.

I hope no one will be offended by this but if you are, so be it, this is the truth of it and I could not leave this unsaid, I'm sorry.

Thank you,
Taake
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I think it wasn't meant offensive!
Old Master 3.0
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Excellent, as always, my young friend.
I'm not participating in this but it wasn't meant to be an attack on VH. From my knowledge Drogyn and VH have always sorta been "rival" houses in a joking way and so that would be my guess as to why they picked VH. Also they have a notable theme of the month and I haven't noticed one for the other houses.

I can understand why people might be upset by it but its really not meant to be malicious.
 
Washburne
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For my second post below.
From my knowledge Drogyn and VH have always sorta been "rival" houses in a joking way and so that would be my guess as to why they picked VH.
Define always please. When I arrived it felt like it was a VH vs Merrick thing. In good fun.

As far as I know it all started as a response to VH heroes and it became Drogan villains. I might be wrong. One time was fun. I don't take offense to the new banners. I even asked to see them all in case I missed some on the board. Which has nothing to do with Taakes opening post. What I did feel was "Again?" followed by a sigh. Like "We have nothing to do so lets tease VH again". Not saying how it was. It was just how I felt. It gets tiresome. Even if it's an honour to be chosen that way. Unless I take it the wrong way. Then it's close to bullying. But that's not what I'm thinking of you.

Playing the role of villain as Drogyn seems happy to do getting this kind of response would fit well I guess. "We got an reaction and it wasn't a happy one..." If the intent was plain fun it didn't get recieved as planned. But hey, it happens and how will you know if we don't bring it up.

I love teasing between the dorms. So that's not the issue for me. But as Taake said, spreading it would be a good idea.



Posting this before going into VH. Maybe something has been said that my post inappropiate.
 
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well ok maybe always for me because thats about when I came in Heroes vs villains
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I figured the would get bored of going after VH but doesnt seem like the case lol
Of course the one time I make pretty much...all of the banners...someone gets upset haha. As soon as we saw you guys had a theme, we were like, "Yay! We can start working on some banners!" We had no idea that everyone else would decide to have a no theme month. Jenn kept asking the other dorms what their theme was and we found out a few days ago that no one else was having a theme month. Our theme wasn't, "VH sucks" or "Let's attack VH" it was "let's parody other dorms' themes" for April in the spirit of April Fools Day.

I like parodies. I find them hilarious, for the most part. If another dorm did the same thing...I would find it really funny to be completely honest with you. If they singled us out, I would be flattered! 😉. I'm sorry that some of you guys didn't find it funny/were offended. That really wasn't my or anyone else in Drogyn's intention. We were just having a bit of fun and I thought you were joining in on the fun when I saw your banner.
 
Jodast
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maybe if your banners sucked we wouldn't be so offended :D
Washburne
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It's typical isn't it? No fault of your artmaking skills though.
Of course the one time I make pretty much...all of the banners...someone gets upset haha. As soon as we saw you guys had a theme, we were like, "Yay! We can start working on some banners!" We had no idea that everyone else would decide to have a no theme month. Jenn kept asking the other dorms what their theme was and we found out a few days ago that no one else was having a theme month. Our theme wasn't, "VH sucks" or "Let's attack VH" it was "let's parody other dorms' themes" for April in the spirit of April Fools Day.

I like parodies. I find them hilarious, for the most part. If another dorm did the same thing...I would find it really funny to be completely honest with you. If they singled us out, I would be flattered! 😉. I'm sorry that some of you guys didn't find it funny/were offended. That really wasn't my or anyone else in Drogyn's intention. We were just having a bit of fun and I thought you were joining in on the fun when I saw your banner.

I think it's only the fact that it's a repeated incident that have caused people to take issue as such. I liked seeing the parodies and you're clearly good at the banners, but there is a history there that does give the impression that one house is singling out another. Now that we know it wasn't exactly intentional it shouldn't be a big deal, but it's worth mentioning just incase it ever changes from that into being something more vindictive so to speak (not that I'm assuming it would).

I'm not hugely involved in VH but this is just what I've observed.
 
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Also they have a notable theme of the month and I haven't noticed one for the other houses.

Not to butt in or anything, but I just want to point out that Merrick always has a theme for the month, some people just choose not to participate.

But as an outsider, I would also like to add that I can understand how the members of VH feel. It would kind of be a stab to me if we came up with a theme that we loved and felt proud of, and another house took it and made into something that it was not intended to be. But I also understand the competitiveness and the wanting to play around and joke, but I think with something like this, you just never know who you are going to upset.

That's my 2 cents. Carry on.
 
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My first thoughts when I saw it were confused, not sure whether to laugh or be offended and it did take explanation from other dormies before I realised that there was a rivalry that the newer members don't really know about. Once that was explained I thought it was kinda funny and pretty much "ohhh you little buggers! 😛 " But since it's happened before, I can understand why people could feel fed up and targeted since it worked out just the wrong way with others not having themes.

So yeah, just FYI when you don't understand the rivalry it could be very easily taken the wrong way!! 😛

And I did think your banners were very well made, Fredikins!
 
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SlayerFest
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Thank you :)
Well, speaking as a Drogynite, we did not mean any malice towards VH, we were just having a little bit of fun with the other dorms. Sorry if anyone took it the wrong way. We were going to try to have banners for every dorm, but that did not work out. 🙂
 
This is how I felt: I understod that it was a joke and not to be mean. What's in the past is in the past, so what ever drogyn and VH may have had going on before was not a issue for me. But it did hurt a little seeing those banners. I've worked really hard on creating a team feeling in VH (morale wasn't that high when I took over as prefect) and I was so happy that people were getting in to the home theme. Seeing those banners put a damper on things a little. That was not the intention, but it did. I think that's something to think about in the future, that even if the intention might be jokingly, it can still hurt.

Also, to be clear: I really like all of you in drogyn. :heart: This isn't something either of us is going to dwell on, I'm sure. You're great, we're great, and that's that. 🙂
 
Apologies to anyone who was offended! As has been said before, our "theme" was going to be the other dorm's themes.
It wasn't meant to be just VH, unfortunately the lovely Miki was the one to get back to Jenn with their theme, and therefore it was the only theme we had to work with!
 
This is how I felt: I found you banners very funny and clever ans I wasn't offended by it, as I told to some of you before (Claire for example). 😀
But I agree with the message of this thread, some of my fellow VH didn't like it so it was fair to say it 🙂

:heart: for all!
 
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Okay, firstly, I would like to know exactly who was offended? As far as I can see all VH members took this with the light-hearted giggle that was intended. Secondly, we were even meaner last April Fool (to all houses, I myself was making fun of Raiden). THIRDLY, our intention was to give some friendly teasing to all the houses but no other houses had a theme so it was a bit difficult. FOURTHLY , as soon as we realised that no other houses were planning on having a theme we decided to swap our theme as we had absolutely no intention of encouraging VHers to think they were any more important than other houses. As far as I was concerned I was completely against teasing JUST VH because I think they already have enough attention, especially after the BIGDAMNVILLAINS fun times.

People are saying that this was hurtful to some members but refuse to tell me which members. If any of these members would actually like to speak to me about the fact that they feel like they have been personally victimised by Regina George/caitaintdead then please let me know personally as I have a lot more respect for someone that can send me a PM instead of talking behind my back.

Honestly, I feel this is one of the most ridiculous things that have EVER been complained about on here. We were even planning on spending the last couple of months making banners making fun of DROGYN. My banner was going to be Buffy at the end of When She Was Bad saying 'I'm going to kill them all'. And a collection of Buffy in dungaree shots with 'Time to put on the moping dungarees - you're in Drogyn' And also one of Angel sucking Buffy's blood saying 'Suck it, you're in Drogyn'.

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Oh, and CLEARLY I do like people from all different dorms, I'm going out for coffee with a VHer in a couple of hours AND giving her my Buffy comics. Obviously if I had some sort of problem with VH I would not be doing this.

It may be unfair to hold new Drogynites responsible for what has happened in the past but I'm writing this to explain that these things are what are coloring our emotions, which not this one instance only, and why there's a feeling of being a little fed up with it.
Also, seeing as how I was the person that came up with Big Damn Villains, instigated it, and made the majority of banners and am basically the only remaining member from that phase then I assume you are directing this at me? If so, I would prefer that you spoke to me in a one on one basis rather than posting a thread about it.

I don't mean to come across as offensive when I word this, just being honest and you know that I genuinely like and respect you 🙂

I hope no one will be offended by this but if you are, so be it, this is the truth of it and I could not leave this unsaid, I'm sorry.

I'm not overly offended, I guess I was bought up in a household and country where people joke and make fun of each other. As I've said in the past where there have been tears over Big Damn Villains - I come from a country where we call strangers mates, yet call our mates c*nts. If I cried every time one of my friends gave me shit I would be severely dehydrated.
 
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I was here for Big Damn Villains I miss that lol
SlayerFest
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severely dehydrated hahah
Taake
Taake
btw Cait I so didn't target you, I'm really sorry if it came off as that! Had that been the case I certainly would have contacted you privately
cait, she's not targeting you, I promise.

It's really not fair everyone coming down on Taake when she only posted this in order to keep Willow My Love from getting shit about it. She was trying to do something nice.

ALL that came out of any discussion about this was that we wanted WML to suggest to Drogyn that maybe they should lay off VH for a while. I'm not sure why, with a pretty thorough and calm explanation of reasoning, this is causing such a a problem.

VH's prefect brought the problem to the other prefects and mods' attention, and they tried to deal with it so everyone can enjoy the dorms. No one was told they couldn't keep their banners, honestly no one was "bitching". People were hurt, not complaining. I don't know specific names but what good would really come of naming them?
 
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cait, she's not targeting you, I promise.
Thank you, I appreciate hearing that. I may have jumped to conclusions. I maintain it is because I am an only child so everything is about MEMEME.

It's really not fair everyone coming down on Taake when she only posted this in order to keep Willow My Love from getting shit about it. She was trying to do something nice.
I do apologise if I offended you Taake, it was definitely not my intentions. I like you Taake very very much <3

No one was told they couldn't keep their banners,
To be fair... We actually were asked to take down our banners, and were asked to not even put up our Drogyn banners giving shit to ourselves!

honestly no one was "bitching". People were hurt, not complaining. I don't know specific names but what good would really come of naming them?
To me, it did feel like bitching as people were going behind our backs to complain rather than coming to people directly.

Honestly, I do think this is a little silly and I really can't believe people are offended over something this silly but it was definitely never my intentions to actually make people upset by insinuating that there are cockroaches in VH. To the people that were actually hurt by this then does it make you feel any better to know that I live in Australia and therefore occasionally have giant spiders in my LITERAL house? That sucks way worse than cockroaches in my virtual house...
 
Taake
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I wasn't offended Cait, I mostly wanted to shed some light on the situation for both houses so that no ill-feelings grew somewhere
To be fair... We actually were asked to take down our banners,

What I'm saying is, that didn't come from any of the staff or the VH prefect.

and were asked to not even put up our Drogyn banners giving shit to ourselves!

Well I think BEG just didn't want to stir the pot. Again, there was no "commandment" other than to lay off the poking fun at other dorms in future.

To me, it did feel like bitching as people were going behind our backs to complain rather than coming to people directly.

Well honestly, it started as the VH Prefect coming on their behalf (which is her job) to the prefect forum and wanting to make sure this banner thing wasn't coming from a nasty place because that's how it was feeling to some members.

Honestly, I do think this is a little silly and I really can't believe people are offended over something this silly but it was definitely never my intentions to actually make people upset by insinuating that there are cockroaches in VH.

I think it's silly too that people are getting riled up. Honestly, it didn't come off as offense as much as people concerned that this was becoming a thing not in good fun. Again, people weren't calling for banners to be removed or yelling and screaming about it. This really never should have become an issue other than for the two prefects to talk it over and make sure it WAS just in good fun and to maybe take it easy for a while just in the interest of not starting a flame war.
 
We've taken the banners down. It's over and done with.

I'd just like to point out That Miki and I were discussing the issue when a mod stepped in and less than insinuated that I wasn't being truthful when I said that Drogyn harbored no malice toward VH and that the banners were meant as a lighthearted joke.
 
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