All About Charmed (2)(contains S6 Spoilers)

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All About Charmed (2)

polexia: some great comments. I am starting to warm up to the idea of chris too. Cole was ok but i didn't get to see him die (DAMN!) Wyatt still has a long ways to go before he can be more interesting, I knew it would be wyatt too. God he was hot!😀
 
Spikeluva: thanx 😉 did you see how chris could acually fight back with wyatt? man.. through him right in the wall. i mean wyatt is the strongest right.. and chris could fight him, so i think chris has some secrets in store for us! Man i love this show😉

yeah.. chris is really develouping into something, not just a shady character. i like that.

but i think the writers of charmed has made a smal mistake in s6. remember the first eppy of the season, when Chris kissed that woman, the fighter lady with the blond hair? i think that makes him either an Arsewhole, or they just forgot abot that kiss as they wrote about chris's girlfirend in the future. cos he really loved her it seems, and i think that most people who are that devoted to their loved ones to NOT go around kissing other women.. (that's me: getting hung up in tshe small details! LOL 🙂)

but yeah: you are right, wyatt has got along way to go before he becomes really interesting. i sorta wish that he was so magick that he would become a grown up fatser than everyone else! 😉 i'm glad they featured a grown up wyatt, so that we could see what's to come.
 
ok I just joined this little chat about charmed. what do I have to catch up on?
lemme see... oh chris. let me guess spoilers? ok maybe I might ot stay here. I avoid them at all costs!!
 
I've edited the thread title to warn all those members who haven't seen season 6 yet that this thread contains spoilers for season 6, so hopefully no-one will be spoiled unecessarily now. 🙂
 
I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on what happened in this particular episode? Unfortunately I was sick and I wasn't able to watch it? If anyone could help me out I would truly appreciate it. Thanks.
 
Yes I was referring to the episode "Chris-Crossed". That would be great if you could fill me in on what happened. Also, do you know if there will be a re-run on that episode? Thanks for replying and for your help. 🙂
 
They had a poll on the WB website asking if you thought that maybe Chris is a son of Piper sometime in the future that she has.
The poll results were rather interesting seems like a lot of people liked that idea. Obviously this would mean that Piper and Leo are going to get together again, unless she finds another whitelighter. I had never thought of the angle of Chris and Wyatt as brothers, certainly an idea they could think about.
 
This thread now contains a lot of spoilers, and beforehand in the 1st thread it didn't go there and when it did spoiler tags were put into place. I really want to chat on Charmed bu that cannot happen if it is spoiler after spoiler!
 
You have got a problem, if you don't like something then don't bother posting!!!
 
The WB is getting on my nerves. I need my weekly dose of new Charmed episodes! Damn them for leaving me in suspense after that last episode! I need to simmer ...
 
We get more new episodes in January, too ... I still hate the WB. 🙄
 
Here's something to leave you for the Christmas holiday

For those of you who already know about this, I'm not saying anything new but for those who don't, this is something that you may not have been aware of. Remember the very first episode of the show, the one where the main characters received their powers? Well, what if I told you that there was a pilot episode of that show and there was a different actress in that one?

Yes, my friends. Alyssa is not the original Phoebe. To make a long story short, way back when the actresses who played the Charmed Ones were Shannen, Holly and Lori Rom. Yes, Lori Rom was the original Phoebe. You've probably have seen her in such shows as Party Of Five and Strong Medicine. After the pilot was shot, Lori had personal problems (to this day I still don't know what they were) and asked the producers to let her leave. Aaron Spelling then called Alyssa, who was in Hawaii at the time, and convinced her to take the role. Needless to say, the pilot was re-shot -- which became Episode 1.01 (Something Wicca This Way Comes) -- with Alyssa doing most of the same scenes that Lori did.

Thanks to a German-language Charmed site, you can see some clips from the pilot episode. Go to this link and scroll all the way to the bottom. Don't worry if you can't understand the language. I'm not that fluent in it, either. 😛
 

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Yeah, I remember hearing about that on another site. I also remember the first promotion picture the WB had in magazines. It had Lori Rom on there with Shannen and Holly. The when the pilot episode came out I was shocked to see Alyssa playing as Phoebe. Thanks for posting that information and that link for us to view. 🙂

SpikeLuva

Could you fill me in on the episode entitled: "Chris-Crossed"? I missed that one. If you would do that, I would so appreciate it. Thanks. 😉
 
DW I did not know that.

So if Lori Rom did not have those personal problems than its quite possible that Shannen would still be on the show.

Does anyone know when in January Charmed is coming back, my tivo shows nothing but reruns for the next 2 weeks.
 
dr Morgus: Charmed will return with new episode on January 11th @ 8 PM. 🙂

http://www.broadcastnewsroom.com/2003/11_nov/news/encore1118.htm


Encore Hollywood Provides Visual Effects for the WB's Charmed


HOLLYWOOD, Nov. 18, 2003 -- Encore Hollywood is currently providing visual effects services for the sixth season of WB's hit series Charmed, which means its crack team of artists is busy helping pretty young witches "orb" into and out of tight situations, "vanquish" evildoers and turn cuddly dogs into handsome young men. This season, Encore artists will even have a hand in eliminating the Golden Gate bridge and in conjuring a fire breathing dragon that menaces the Halliwell sisters, better known as "the Charmed Ones."

Creating visual effects for Charmed, produced by Spelling Television, is a full throttle undertaking. Encore Hollywood produces on average more than 75 visual effects shots for each 1-hour episode of the show. With the current season slated to include 22 hours, that works out to more than 1600 shots in a tight six month production schedule.

"Visual effects are very important to Charmed," said Peter Chomsky, the show's co-producer. "It's a show about magic and without being able to convey the magic of the magic we wouldn't be Charmed. We have gone as big as 150 visual effects in a single 1-hour show. They can be as simple as a wire removal, which isn't necessarily "˜simple,' all the way up to the "˜vanquish' of a demon spread across five shots, and everything in between. It's all a part of the repertoire that we use to tell the story."

Remarkably, nearly all of that work is accomplished by Encore Hollywood Visual Effects Producer Tim Jacobsen and four artists, Jason Fotter, Trey Freeman, Sean Mullen and Craig Kuehne. (Occasional additional support is provided by Encore's 3D team of Greg Tsadilas, Matt Von Brock, Dan Lopez, Mitch Gates and Kurt McKeever; and by Inferno artists Mandy Sorenson and Bob Minshall.) During the show's first season, most of the visual effects work was accomplished via Discreet Inferno platforms, but over the years the workload has shifted to desktop systems and now 90-percent of the show's effects are accomplished via Adobe AfterEffects on 4 Power Mac Dual G4s running OSX.

The shift in technology has had a dramatic effect on the show as the lower cost desktop solution has enabled the producers to incorporate many more effects into their product. An average episode from this year's season of Charmed will have four times as many effects shots as an episode from the show's first year.

"We have a great Mac team. They are very good at compositing and creating effects," observed Jacobsen. "Because the effects cost less, the producers are able to write in a lot more and they are able to try more things. They are now venturing into the CG world more as well."

"A lot of people are surprised to learn that we are doing full visual effects work on Mac boxes," added Freeman. "But the systems are getting faster and they are closing the gap with SGI. Now we use Inferno only for the most difficult tracking work or other, especially intense effects."

Certain types of effects recur repeatedly in Charmed. The most common is "orbing," the technique Paige, Leo and other "White Lighters" use to travel from place to place. It's similar to the transporter effect from Star Trek but with a more magical bent as characters assume an ethereal glow before appearing or disappearing. Each character orbs in a slightly different way and Encore Hollywood has refined the technique to such a science that different artists specialize in different characters' distinct way to orb.

"Specializing in certain effects helps us to keep up with the sheer volume of work that comes our way," explained Fotter. "Tim divides up the shot list for the show based on the work we've done before and what each one of us is particularly good at. But in crunch time, when we might have less than a week to turn around a show, we'll all pitch in and help each other out."

Transformations are another Charmed staple. Being witches the Charmed Ones and their foes are fond of turning themselves and other people into water coolers, mop sticks or the family pet. In an episode from the current season Mullen created a transformation in which Piper undergoes a costume change by effecting a transition between before and after still frames. An added glow helped to mask the seam and give the shot an appropriately magical feel. Because the "A" and "B" sides were not a perfect match, Mullen cut out Piper's hands from the B side of the shot and composited them into the A side to avoid a jarring twitch.

Kuehne did something similar for a shot from another current episode in which evil "Valkryeis" cause the Golden Gate bridge to vanish. With, obviously, no clean plate available, Kuehne had to cut out the bridge's web-like structure, and then painstakingly paint in missing details of water, sky, land and buildings.

Character transitions and magical appearances often occur in scenes where the camera is moving or where other talent are present in the shot. The show's fast paced production schedule precludes the acquisition of camera tracking data, obliging Encore's artists to replicate camera action by eye, hand and feel. When shooting production elements for an orb sequence, other actors in the shot are simply asked to freeze in position when the camera stops and the orbing actor assumes his or her place. Encore artists typically use morph effects to disguise the inevitable small facial or body movements that occur in such situations.

"We do that kind of effect 20 times an episode, every time there is a transition and someone else is in the shot," Mullen explained. "To viewers, it looks like continuous action."

"Our ability to quickly make such fixes helps the show to stay on schedule," he added. "In the time we have been on Charmed there have been perhaps three instances where they needed to re-shoot something that couldn't be fixed in post."

Encore Hollywood also works collaboratively with Stephen Lebed, the show's Visual Effects Supervisor. A talented CG artist in his own right, Lebed occasionally produces CG effects for the show himself before passing them along to Encore for integrating with the live action. Lebed, for example, created the wholly computer-animated dragon character that appears in some 30 shots in one of this season's episodes.

Having worked together for several seasons, Encore's team has developed a close rapport with everyone on the production team from the executive producers and writers on down. "Because I've worked with many of the same artists going on six seasons, they know the style that I go for with visual effects," said Chomsky. "Now, typically the first time through I am very happy with what they show me."

Having that kind of dependable rapport is crucial to keeping pace with Charmed's hectic schedule, Chomsky added. "I drop in the final visual effects on Wednesdays during the color timing and the final mix, I deliver the show on Fridays and it airs on Sundays," he noted. "That is our schedule for 22 episodes. The team at Encore knows that we are that tight and they don't get too excited. They just get the job done and get it done well."

Charmed is produced by Spelling Television, Inc., a Paramount/Viacom company. Aaron Spelling and E. Duke Vincent (7th Heaven, Beverly Hills, 90210, Melrose Place) serve as executive producers along with Brad Kern (Hill Street Blues, Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, New York Undercover). Charmed was created by Constance M. Burge (Savannah).

Encore Hollywood is located at 6344 Fountain Avenue, Hollywood, California 90028. For more information, call (323) 466-7663 or visit www.encorehollywood.com.


Source: Encore Hollywood

Btw, when you go to the Encore Hollywood site, click on "Encore Demo Reel" on the top of the page. It has several clips from several show they worked on, including some from this show. 🙂
 

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Thats an interesting article DW, I remember watching something a while ago about how they did the beaming up in Trek and they used a big bowl of water and tons of sprinkles, they would stir it quickly and record the result to later add over the person.

I am making note of the Charmed return on Jan 11th, cant wait.
 
T.K King (Andy) from S1 of Charmed was lucky to get the role, he was not the original Andy. In the pilot with Lora he was played by someone else.
 
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