Ambassador Nigel Farage

[Faith 2019]

From the United Kingdom, the next ambassador to the United States of America is Ambassador Nigel Farage. This is the new talk going around the news.

Well, the interconnection with the United Kingdom and the United States has started faster than I thought or dreamed it being so direct

@nightshade

 

[HowiMetdaSlayer]

From the United Kingston, the next ambassador to the United States of America is Ambassador Nigel Farage. This is the new talk going around the news.

Well, the interconnection with the United Kingston and the United States has started faster than I thought or dreamed it being so direct

@nightshade

Fixed it for you. 😀

 

[Hunga Munga]

An American intelligence asset in the news ... hours after another one took over our country 😀 .

A sad day for Britain .

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Not true...Trump doesn't appoint our ambassadors, no matter how much he might wish to. The new ambassador to Washington is most likely to be a senior member of the UK's Diplomatic Service...a civil servant.

 

[ILLYRIAN]

@Mr. Pointy
I'm so sorry, I read your reply all wrong after the ... civil servant bit I kept reading about Spike, thing is I wasn't put off by what I read so here is what I suggest, GILES FOR AMBASSADOR!

 

[AlphaFoxtrot]

He's a good pick. N.F. has a rapport with Trump, it would get him out of the UK, or get him some actual foreign policy experience, depending on which side of the asle you sit on. An Civil Servant would probably be doing all the real work of the Embassy anyways, and the Ambassador would be a well connected figurehead, a system you would expect the British of all people to be comfortable with.

 

[Ethan Reigns]

The English civil service was patterned after the Chinese civil service where the main organizational plan was to prevent any of the underlings from gaining too much power.

 

[TriBel]

The country's riven as it is - this would make the polarization as deep as it is wide. I've no objection to him leaving the UK (while it's still the UK) as long as he can't get back in. Keep him...please.

the Ambassador would be a well connected figurehead, a system you would expect the British of all people to be comfortable with.

I'm gobsmacked. Really gobsmacked. 😵

 

[Mr. Pointy]

He's a good pick. N.F. has a rapport with Trump, it would get him out of the UK, or get him some actual foreign policy experience, depending on which side of the asle you sit on. An Civil Servant would probably be doing all the real work of the Embassy anyways, and the Ambassador would be a well connected figurehead, a system you would expect the British of all people to be comfortable with.

Really...Farage has no diplomatic experience and little political experience (unless you count not doing his job as an MEP in the European Parliament where he is a UK-elected representative, or grifting the UK political system and gullible voters...that's why Trump likes him so much, they're kindred spirits). The man is an absolute fraud and a conman.

 

[DeadlyDuo]

where he is a UK-elected representative or grifting the UK political system and gullible voters

Why is it that when a person gets elected that someone doesn't like, they then claim it's because of dirty tricks and that the voters were "gullible". It's like with Brexit, the remoaners are trying to claim that the voters that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for because they voted for the "wrong" option. They're trying to push for a second referendum, much like the SNP are trying to push for a second Scottish independence referendum, despite the fact that the country had the chance to give their opinion and they gave it. Scotland voted to stay part of the UK and the majority of the UK voted to leave the EU. Parliament needs to honour those results, not try and redo them until they get the result they want.

 

[The Bronze]

Why is it that when a person gets elected that someone doesn't like, they then claim it's because of dirty tricks and that the voters were "gullible".

Wandering around with a pint and shouting about immigrants doesn't make Farage a man of the people. Dodgy funding everywhere you look. Never mind the fact that he's elected to do a job, takes the money and doesn't attend. If voters knowingly voted to fund his lavish lifestyle with no representation then fine, if not they were duped.

It's like with Brexit, the remoaners are trying to claim that the voters that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for because they voted for the "wrong" option.

Speak to 100 Brexit voters and hear 100 visions of Brexit.

Scotland voted to stay part of the UK and the majority of the UK voted to leave the EU.

After being threatened that leaving the UK would mean EU expulsion.

Democracy is supposed to be based on informed voters making decisions. Which means if a campaign is full of lies then sticking to the result regardless is not an example of good practice.

Appreciate it's not easy in practice to enforce this but let's not pretend that saying whatever you like before and then doing whatever you like afterwards can be defended by shouting about a vote.

 

[TriBel]

They're trying to push for a second referendum, much like the SNP are trying to push for a second Scottish independence referendum, despite the fact that the country had the chance to give their opinion and they gave it. Scotland voted to stay part of the UK and the majority of the UK voted to leave the EU.

Didn't Scotland vote to stay in the Union partly because it meant they'd remain in the EU with the UK's opt-out advantages?

 

[Faith 2019]

He's a good pick. N.F. has a rapport with Trump, it would get him out of the UK, or get him some actual foreign policy experience, depending on which side of the asle you sit on. An Civil Servant would probably be doing all the real work of the Embassy anyways, and the Ambassador would be a well connected figurehead, a system you would expect the British of all people to be comfortable with.

@AlphaFoxtrot

As a American that grew up close to the American Canadian border, and spent a number of times in Canada, and grew up watching Canadian TV and Canadian radio. I can make it very clear, with the United Kingdom leaving the European Union -- and now being a hard leave from the European Union. If the citizens of the United Kingdom are upset with the rules and customs of the European Union. In less than ten years, they are going to find themselves violently upset and horribly angry with the rules and customs that will be forced onto the United Kingdom by the United States. Just look at Canada, are they English Canadians, French Canadians, English subjects, or Americans with a Canadian citizenship -- Canada has a identity problem that is horribly unresolved. The citizens of the United Kingdom, the more you engage with the United States, being economic, social justice, cultural issues -- the less you become British and the more you become American. With any political party within the United States, the goal with any foreign country, is to make that country a clone of the United States. The more you lose your identity, the more tribal your subculture with become, and a greater pulling apart you will get with Scotland, Northern Ireland and England you will become. I have left out Wales, because it has already lost so much of its identity the past 300 years and become more English.

 

[thetopher]

People should be careful about dismissing Farage and/or Trump as simple idiots or con-men; they view and say things that do resonate with a majority of people.

Whether you agree with their solutions or not they didn't create the problems in the first place.

 

[TriBel]

In 2016, Farage had the worst record for attending voting session at the EU bar one. How can you argue that the EU is non-democratic when you don't exercise your right to effect decisions? A right that was given to you because you were democratically elected by people to represent them in an Institution you're claiming is undemocratic? 🙄 How can you base an argument on the cost effectiveness of the EU when you're paid a good salary for a job you don't do? How can you complain about a lack of sovereignty when you're threatening to shut down parliament in a system of government that's based on parliamentary democracy and where Parliament is sovereign? Sorry...I don't get it. I really don't understand the appeal of either Farage or Johnson.

I have left out Wales, because it has already lost so much of its identity the past 300 years and become more English.

It still has its own language and culture - which is often important when it comes to sustaining a sense of national identity. In 2014, 1.8 million people identified only as Welsh (58% of the population) and 218,000 identified as Welsh and British (7% of the population). IIRC, there was a surge in support for independence after the EU referendum. Plaid Cymru thinks BJ's election and the suggestion of no deal will strengthen its hand. They're threatening to call for a referendum on independence if there's no second referendum on the EU. If they don't, I'm presuming much will depend on whether Westminster makes up the shortfall in EU funding after Brexit and the impact of trade deals on Welsh farmers. I dunno - it's a mess.

 

[Faith 2019]

It still has its own language and culture - which is often important when it comes to sustaining a sense of national identity. In 2014, 1.8 million people identified only as Welsh (58% of the population) and 218,000 identified as Welsh and British (7% of the population). IIRC, there was a surge in support for independence after the EU referendum. Plaid Cymru thinks BJ's election and the suggestion of no deal will strengthen its hand. They're threatening to call for a referendum on independence if there's no second referendum on the EU. If they don't, I'm presuming much will depend on whether Westminster makes up the shortfall in EU funding after Brexit and the impact of trade deals on Welsh farmers. I dunno - it's a mess.

@TriBel

You have to understand my point of view. America started out with 13 states and now has 50, and the old theory of states rights and states being more independent has more or less abolished. America has a civil war dealing with states rights and having different economic systems. Now, states have more or less have become very passive and the only difference from one state over the next is its climate and geographic differences. True, there is differences with population densities and cultures with the local populations. Still, the idea that a state would ever declare independence and become a independent country is not even a pipe dream. With second generation Americans and older, there is not to much a differences. I can go from Florida to Maine, or from Main to Alaska, or any state and can have a general understanding of culture and history.

On the other hand, I can take all of the United Kingdom, and place it all in Texas or Alaska. After over 300 years with being united with England and Scotland, Scotland had 45% of the population wanting independence. There is Northern Ireland, and in 2021, it will become a catholic majority for the first time. With Wales, with being firmly connected with England for over a 1,000 years -- you still have a small community with their own language.

What I am saying is, the more engaged the United Kingdom becomes with the United States, with leaving the European Union and become dependent with the United States -- that cultural differences is going to be looked as being a negative. With the United Kingdom itself becoming a majority minority country like the United States during the second half of this century. If the goal is to be fully engaged with the United States, the cultural difference between England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland has to be discarded.

 

[TriBel]

What I am saying is, the more engaged the United Kingdom becomes with the United States, with leaving the European Union and become dependent with the United States -- that cultural differences is going to be looked as being a negative. With the United Kingdom itself becoming a majority minority country like the United States during the second half of this century. If the goal is to be fully engaged with the United States, the cultural difference between England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland has to be discarded.

If the goal is to be fully engaged with the United States. It's not my goal...I'm quite happy with Europe thanks!

The cultural difference between England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland has to be discarded. Try telling that to the English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish nationalists.


@nightshade - according to a report by Univ. of Manchester, you're a rarity if you're both!

 

[nightshade]

@TriBel I'm actually half Welsh half English, but I prefer to say that I'm Welsh.

 

[TriBel]

@TriBel I'm actually half Welsh half English, but I prefer to say that I'm Welsh.

In my experience, it's often the case that Brits who have a choice between English and one of the other home nations choose the "other". 🙂 Possibly because England's always seen as "the oppressor".

 

[Bluebird]

What I am saying is, the more engaged the United Kingdom becomes with the United States, with leaving the European Union and become dependent with the United States -- that cultural differences is going to be looked as being a negative. With the United Kingdom itself becoming a majority minority country like the United States during the second half of this century. If the goal is to be fully engaged with the United States, the cultural difference between England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland has to be discarded.

Oh my goodness. Well I personally believe the cultural differences between the US and Mexico is negative to the rest of the world, so we should discard them also. We'll rename it Northern Mexico for you. Better start learning Spanish.