Angel ep by ep; GROUND STATE-spandex and near death

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GROUND STATE

The Good;
Wonderfully clever opening, you think Gwen's parents and headmistress are uncaring but actually they love her, they can just never touch her no matter how much they want to. Also love Angel's drawing and Fred's show, especially her little ghost.

The Bad;
Gwen is fab, the rest of it is pretty stupid truth be told

Best line:
Gunn; (about their chances) "Operation chance in hell!"

Jeez, how did they get away with that?

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Cliches

Inverting the Hollywood cliche;

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12

Cordy's tatt; 10

Cheap Angel;

Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 12
Wes: 6
Gunn; 4
Lorne; 3
Fred; 2

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 12
Angel: 15
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 3
Groo; 1
Connor; 1
Fred; 1

Kills: 1 demon for Wes
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 41 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 13 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 11 vamps+ 11 demons.
Groo; 1 demon
Fred; 3 vamp
Connor; 4 vamps and 1 demon

Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 8
Fred; 1

Characters killed:
46

Recurring characters killed; Gunn dies for a few seconds but then comes back.
8;

Total number of Angel Investigations:3
Angel, Gunn, Fred

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1

Packing heat;
Wes; 6
Doyle; 1
Angel; 2
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Lilah and Wes
Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 3; Virginia, the bleached blonde and Lilah
Gunn; 1 Fred
Fred; 1 Gunn
Groo; 1Cordy

Kinky dinky:
Gwen RRRRRRRRRR! Love a bad girl in leather/PVC. And you can see her nipples through her outfit when she enters the bar. Justine described Lilah as 'incredibly loud' during sex and there's some belt snapping action between her and Wes. Lilah describes herself as Mrs Robinson and indeed Connor will develop a thing for older women. Gunn likes it when Fred is in charge. Gwen describes Angel as handsome and Gunn and 'Denzel' which certainly must have pleased him. Gwen describes Angel as a great kisser (the Furies were right) and sits astride him.

Captain Subtext;
Fred's plans include going to prison and becoming somebody's bitch. She hopes her cellmate will be gentle (see also What the fanficcers thought). Gwen seems very close to her cute blonde Marlene Detreich-like female butler. Gwen calls Fred honey.

Know the face, different character; 4

Parking garages;
5,

Guantanamo Bay;
Angel beats the building plans from a snitch

Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

What the fanficcers thought;
Read an interesting one where Fred does indeed go to prison and becomes someone's bitch. Lucky for her that someone is Faith. Also the last appearance (or not) of Phantom Dennis. Read a lovely fic once where CC in 'You're welcome' goes to visit Dennis and tell's him that she loves him and it's time to pass over to the other side which indeed he does, his love for her all that was keeping him on Earth. Whatever happened to Phantom Dennis?, an Angel fanfic - FanFiction.Net

Questions and observations;
Wes has his own organisation with 3 employees, maybe that's what Gunn and Fred are broke, he's taking their business. The Chandler auction house is of course a homage to LA author Raymond Chandler. Angel's 2 previous break-ins were in The Shroud of Rhamon and Choices in Buffy. Neither is very successful. The squatter camp Connor goes to is the old power station you see in countless movies and TV.
So why does no one wonder about Groo? Possibly because he let Lorne, Fred, Gunn know of his plans or maybe he's been in touch with them since?
Marks out of 10; 7/10 but only due to Gwen really
 
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Was I the only one who didn't like Gwen? She was too bitchy for me. 7/10 for the episode.
 
I love this episode. But yeah, that's mostly because of Gwen. I really feel bad when she refers to herself as 'freak'.

Love the hi-tech security. And of course, Fred and Gunn. A little shocked when Gunn died. 😱 And Higher Being Cordy in the end of these eps are hilarious.
 
I loved Fred in this episode, her little breakdown she has to Gunn is sweet, and is one of the moments I actually like them as a pairing.
Young Gwen was so cute.
 
I love Gwen, I wish they had done more with her. I wonder how she & Faith would get along? I know she had a big role in the IDW comics, and I wonder if Joss will do anything with her over at Dark Horse in season 9? Young Gwen & her parents reminds me very much of Jean Grey and the X-Men.

I'm sorry, I hate Cordy as a higher being with a firey passion. I really dislike how they make her say these glib, stupid comments. I, too, wonder about Phantom Dennis.

More Lilah & Wesley hotness...nothing wrong with that.
 
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I wish we got to see more Gwen too, I though she had potential.
Though I love this season, this episode is my least favorite, it's not as interesting as the others.

Gwen, I didn't like her, but I didn't mind her either but that scene when she enters the bar is hot, first time I saw it I was just going "mums" which is Swedish for 'yum'. However I don't like the interactions between her and Angel, and I don't think she needed to be brought back in later episodes.
 
This episode was a little boring...I don't like Gwen very much, it seems like a character who doesn't offer more than what we see. Plus, I don't understand why Angel kissed her. Ahaha.
 
I think there's a fun episode trying to get out here- touches like Fred's flipchart presentation and the idea of doing a heist episode with a sexy female competitor for Angel are all good, but for whatever reason it doesn't quite have the zing it needed.

As regards Angel and Gwen kissing, I think the suggestion is that it's to do with Gwen's electricity starting Angel's heart beating although it's also a a bit of an awkward attempt to set up some sexual tension.
 
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