Angel ep by ep; LOYALTY-treason merely a matter of dates?

[saturn5]

LOYALTY

The Good;
Really is Wes' ep and he's put through the wringer here. Or so we think, it's nothing compared to what he's going to face...

The Bad;
Holtz's spy seems to learn a lot about AI very quickly. Why doesn't Holtz just continue to work with Sahjhan? How can Lilah be so confident in betraying WR&H, what about the mindreaders? Or do they not apply over a certain level of promotion?

Best line:
Gunn; (of ice hockey) "You do realise this is the whitest sport known to man?" (obviously never seen synchronised swimming)

Jeez, how did they get away with that?

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Cliches

Inverting the Hollywood cliche;
We think Holtz will possibly kill Aubrey for failing him but again he shows great understanding. It's no wonder he commands respect amongst his people so easily (a mirror image of Wes in command?)

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12

Cordy's tatt; 10 no because no Cordy at all for the first time in 3 seasons

Cheap Angel; 9

Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 11
Wes: 6
Gunn; 4
Lorne; 3
Fred; 2

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 11
Angel: 14
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 3

Kills: 2 vamps for Gunn and Fred nails her first
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 39 vamps, 55 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 10 vamps+ 9 demons.
Groo; 1 demon
Fred; 1 vamp
Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 8

Characters killed:
46

Recurring characters killed;
8;

Total number of Angel Investigations:
7, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1

Packing heat;
Wes; 5
Doyle; 1
Angel; 1
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Going to add Groo to CC's list and Fred and Gunn to each other
Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Gunn; 1 Fred
Fred; 1 Gunn
Groo; 1Cordy

Kinky dinky:
Lilah turns a guy down at the bar.

Captain Subtext;
Wes and Angel really like a gay couple now.

Know the face, different character; 4

Parking garages;
5,

Guantanamo Bay;

Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

Questions and observations;
Gunn empathises with Audrey after she talks of killing her son. So does Angel but his words have extra resonance for Wes. Holtz actually shows considerable understanding of AI and Angel also observes that he considers Holtz a good man and justified in his need for vengence.
Lilah talking to her mum is heartbreaking. A staple of fanfic is that no matter what goes wrong for AI Lilah's mum dies and without the need to support her any more she decides to switch sides and help the good guys. How do they twig Aubrey? Has Lorne told them that Holtz is recruiting people like her? Or did Angel's vamp senses simply smell Holtz's scent off her? All the stuff between Lilah and Sahjhan is hilarious. Angel memorised CC's credit card number but in fairness he has given her a big roll of cash for her holiday.
Marks out of 10; 7/10

 

[ToShanshuInLA]

I'm re-watching this season and I hit this episode tonight, and I'm reminded of something that made me go "What the eff?" when the season was coming to a close.

"The father will kill the son" prophecy was faked by Sahjhan...So why the hell did The Loa confirm it as it did? I know that Angel does so in "Home" but...Maybe I'm having a problem with the burger's wording but he says, "That the vampire will devour his child is certain." There was no devouring! It could have been worked around by the writers. 🙄 Was The Loa just screwing with Wes?

Probably me just being nitpicky again.

 

[pieceofgosa]

Sahjhan didn't so much fake the prophecy as rewrite it (his words), so as far as I can see the prophecy actually does say "the father will kill the son". If that's the case then the talking food may not have known any better, or like you say he was just screwin' with Wes. Either way the whole thing is a bit "the slayer line now runs through Faith", the writers needed some way for Wes to be convinced that the prophecy was real & a giant talking hamburger is just plain funny. Of course if you believe Jasmine in Shiny Happy People, then Sahjhan (& by extension, the burger) & everybody else were all just pawns, maneuvered to bring her into being.

 

[white avenger]

Well, Angel did technically "devour" Connor by drinking (unknowingly) his blood. He just didn't COMPLETELY devour him. And the prophecy might have originally read something like "THE warrior whose FATHER is a vampire WILL Kill THE SON of a b***h who tries to re-write this prophecy," or similar before Sahjahn edited or re-wrote it.

 

[VisionGirl]

The Loa: has to be the lamest demon in Whedon history. Weird talking hamburger humor in such a serious episode.