Angel ep by ep; TOMORROW, sinking and rising

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TOMORROW

The Good;
The ending is amazing, simultaneously heartrending and (literally) uplifting. Also love the touching Groo leaving scene and Fred's vamp impression.

The Bad;
The drive in film is Courage Under Fire which was brought out to little acclaim in 1996 so I'm not sure why it should be being shown again? How does CC drink the mockna and not stain her magnificent teeth?

Best line:
Lilah; "Mind if I join you?"
Wes; "On many levels and with great intensity"

Jeez, how did they get away with that?
Connor cuts the head off Holtz's corpse. Wes tells Lilah post sex 'I wasn't even thinking of you when you were here', god, talk about the most heartless post-sex line EVER! And just for a second the mask slips and you can see the hurt in Lilah's eyes.

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Cliches

Inverting the Hollywood cliche;

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12

Cordy's tatt; 10

Cheap Angel; 10 Angel thinks 50 cents is enough for a teenagers allowance. Even CC observes that he's 'tight with a buck'.

Fang Gang in bondage: Angel chained and in a box
Cordy: 5
Angel: 12
Wes: 6
Gunn; 4
Lorne; 3
Fred; 2

Fang gang knocked out: Angel is tasered into unconsciousness
Cordy: 12
Angel: 15
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 3
Groo; 1

Kills:
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 41 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 10 vamps+ 11 demons.
Groo; 1 demon
Fred; 1 vamp
Connor; 2 vamps and 1 demon
Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 8
Fred; 1

Characters killed:
46

Recurring characters killed;
8;

Total number of Angel Investigations: Byebye Groo who unfortunately we'll never see again on the show although he shall return in the comics. I heard one rumour that in season 5 Harmony would have a 'Naked Musclely Hunks' calender and Fred would look at it and recognise one of the models as the Groo. Byebye Angel who's taking a dip at the bottom of the ocean, byebye CC who's taking a break as a celestial being and byebye Lorne who's off to Vegas. This officially leaves AI as Gunn, Fred and Connor, back to the same number as in the first episode of the show.
3, Gunn, Fred, Connor

Angel Investigations shot: no but Angel tasered again, it seems to be a highly effective weapon against vamps.
Angel: 11
Wes; 1
Packing heat;
Wes; 6
Doyle; 1
Angel; 2
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Lilah and Wes
Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 3; Virginia, the bleached blonde and Lilah
Gunn; 1 Fred
Fred; 1 Gunn
Groo; 1Cordy

Kinky dinky:
Lilah and Wes, once again Wes is violent as hell with Lilah yet this seems to turn her on and she ends up having sex with him. She seems intirgued to know what it's like to have your throat cut (one day she'll find out) Groo offers to rub CC's shlugtee which is actually Pylean for neck but that's not what she thinks he means. CC and Angel 'try out bedrooms' in the Hyperion. CC refuse to tell Connor the facts of life as Angel requests but one day she will graphically 'fill in the blanks for him'. Connor comments on CC's beauty.

Captain Subtext;
Lilah thinks Fred is cute.

Know the face, different character; 4

Parking garages;
5,

Guantanamo Bay;

Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

What the fanficcers thought; whatever happens to the Scoobs/AI the Groo always shows up to save everyone

Questions and observations;
How does Lorne get on a commercial flight even with his fedora disguise? Connor refers to Holtz's home as having white cliffs which implies he's from Dover. Sorry to say goodbye to the Groo, your heart breaks for him but he does the honourable thing with dignity like the hero he is. CC looks at a season 1 pic of her, Wes and Angel demonstrating just how much things have changed (not least her hair). The scene where CC talks to an image of herself is very reminiscent of the scene in Xena where Aphrodite chats to her own reflection in the mirror. Connor refers to Angel as the Prince of Lies who Angel will encounter in 'Why we fight' (also underwater). Note when CC and Angel are finally getting together she's dyed her hair blonde, just like Darla and Buffy.
Well, Joss and co not exactly scared to shake things up and leave us with a hell of a cliffhanger! Hugely powerful ep, so many aspects to praise.
Marks out of 10; 9/10
 
This episode made me sad for Cangel. 🙁 I wonder if Justine hadn't been around would Connor still hate his dad?

8/10.
 
Most evil cliffhanger ever >.< I loved the episode but the end killed me because I can't afford season 4 yet.

I loved Fred's vampire it was so cute I had to rewind a few times 🙂
 
Most evil cliffhanger ever >.< I loved the episode but the end killed me because I can't afford season 4 yet.

I loved Fred's vampire it was so cute I had to rewind a few times 🙂

Yeah vampFred is good:giggle:

Save those pennies, season 4 is well worth it
 
Yeah vampFred is good:giggle:

Save those pennies, season 4 is well worth it

you can get it for £10.99 on play.com so I might be ordering it Tuesday 😀 yay

I made my BF rewind and play it again when Fred did the RAWR thing because it's so damn cute:tongue3: he now thinks I have a girl crush
 
After watching this episode just last week, it got me thinking. TPTB sent her visions of people in danger, so why send her a vision of her on the highway? Because they were obviously warning her off Skip! Do you reckon?
 
After watching this episode just last week, it got me thinking. TPTB sent her visions of people in danger, so why send her a vision of her on the highway? Because they were obviously warning her off Skip! Do you reckon?

Yes! I feel like I'm the only person who ever noticed this, lol. It's never really talked about it. I don't even think a lot of people realized it was one of her visions, lol.
 
Yes! I feel like I'm the only person who ever noticed this, lol. It's never really talked about it. I don't even think a lot of people realized it was one of her visions, lol.

I realized it was a vision I just think the acting is so horrible that I have to fastforward through it in order to keep my respect for Charisma intact. :S
 
Ok so I watched this episode the other night and was waiting for BB to get back online to talk about it...

WHAT. THE. F@%&!!!!!

Why did they have to go an mess up Angel and Cordy meeting to confess their love for eachother! It pissed me off beyond belief!

And Let's not even get started with Connor. The little brat would have been dead if it were me lol
 
Wait- when did Cordy have a vision of herself on a highway?

Aack, I hate cliffhangers! (of course, I know what will happen) And can I say that I am sooo glad that I didn't watch it when it first aired, it would've drove me crazy waiting! This is definitely the biggest cliffhanger on either show.

So, somebody fill me in on what happens to Groo. We don't hear anything about him for the next 2 seasons- he shows up in the comics, eh? I'm glad to hear that. I didn't think he went back to Pylea, didn't think he could since he was kicked out.

Can I tell you that I hate Cordy's hair in this ep & Benediction with a firey passion?! Probably the worst Cordy hair in the entire series. Why do they have to keep messing it? She looks perfectly fine, gorgeous in fact, and then they go and f^ck with it! Has anybody ever counted how many times they changed it in season 3? At least pick a style & stick with it, geesh.

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GrrArghx agrees: She had the vision after Groo left when she was "talking" to "herself" at the table.
Well, gosh, totally missed that! Oh well, no big.

Forgot to add how much I love the deliciously wrong & naughty Wesley & Lilah combo!! Truly the best part of this ep. 😉
 
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GrrArghx
She had the vision after Groo left when she was "talking" to "herself" at the table.
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