Angel is a douche

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Today, Buffyfest Blog posted a rather amusing post about Angel. I'm curious of what people think of it.

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A precursor before we begin: this is the first half of a two-part post about Angel. I thought it would be interesting to really look at these characters from a different lens than I normally do. In this case, I'm focusing in on everything about Angel that is absolutely terrible and in the most snarky tone I can muster, Why? Well, because it's fun, really. We'll get to the other reason at the end. Anyway, here we go.

Oh, Angel. You have taken a lot of flak from fans in the past and, now more than ever, you have transformed into the fandom's butt monkey. You get a bad rap but, let's be honest, you kind of brought it on yourself, huh? Now, don't pout (or brood), Captain Forehead, it's not that I don't love you, it's just that I think you are a solution comprised of water and vinegar. Just a little! There's heart and soul and... (blergh) champion in there too but, at some point, you're going to have to embrace the douche that is you. You're not alone, either. This is Buffy fandom, otherwise known as Douches Anonymous (DA) where basically everyone comes in a box labeled "Summer's Eve". But this isn't about anyone else (today, anyway) it's about YOU. This is your fictional life!

Let's begin at the beginning, shall we? You started as the double "D" or, in layman's terms, the "Drunken Douche", philandering about, not adding anything positive to society, collecting venereal diseases like they were pogs (hey, remember pogs?), having a terrible accent, and a haircut that's even worse. Enter Darla, sirerererer supreme, you drink from her lady lumps because you love boobs (more on that later) and cease being the DD and become the MD (Murdering Douche). Where do you start? Well, family seems as good a place as any. After all, they wanted more for you and cared that you were throwing your life away. Can't have that! So you eated them like the fangy, faux-irish, lolcat that you are.

I'm going to cut you some slack here, fella. You don't have a soul at this point so a lot of the murdering and raping and such... I won't hold you overwhelmingly accountable. Still, there are traits that continue to develop during this period in time, traits you still have to this day. What are they? I'm so glad you asked. Hark, whilst I mansplain it to you. You continue to shirk responsibility unless it serves your own interest, you alpha male all over the place doing anything and everything in your power to stay number one in the eyes of the women folk, and you make snap to judgments about everyone and everything in sight. But right now? No soul. It's ll good. Lots of vampires have their MD's, you just made it into an "art" (an MFAD?). Good for you!

Then what? Oh, right. Gypsies. Future reference? Don't eat those. In fact, don't do anything with gypsies. They are the tropiest bad news trope that ever did trope in Tropesylvania. Oh, well. Lesson learned a little late and now you've got the soul back, now with bonus damning curse. So now you are the AD ( you guessed it, Accursed Douche) and you're eating rats and making a mess of yourself. Oh, wait. That's not quite the full time gig we thought it was since, apparently, you also dabbled with trying to remain a homicidal maniac and even occasionally tried to be a hero but, wait, no, then you got bored and left people to die. Oh, Accursed Douche, you might just be the douchiest douche of all.

I take that back, for now is the time that you shall become the once and future BD (Buffy's Douche). Let it never be wondered from here on out what motivates your every action, for that something is an often times badly-banged blonde who pokes at things with pointy pieces of wood. You first pedo beared Buffy when she was a freshman in high school, all fashion-talking and suggestive lollipop licking. You said saw her "heart". You're a delight, Angel! I'm pretty sure by "heart" you meant "boobs". They're in a similar place to her heart known as her "chest". Easy mistake to make. Anyway, I guess those sweater puppies must have been super perky amazing since you followed her around for like three years. I was just kidding when I wrote that but then I realized that, by season three, Buffy's breasts had decreased in size pretty dramatically. So that's it then? Anything below a solid B and you're out? Good to know, stud.


But seriously, sir. How about those years you spent in Sunnydale? First you're Angel, the stalker action figure with exposition tug string and kung fu grip. You're very pretty though and, since Buffy, like you, has a weakness for the eye candy, she's all over you like blonde flies on spiky-haired shit. You're basically a colossal liar by omission since you totally neglect to mention that, oh yeah, you're one of those mass murdering vampire types. Whoops! It's okay, dude. Buffy's a teenager so she's into the whole tragic love with an older man thing. I watched this stuff in high school too so I cannot deny your allure. You actually do alright for a little while, if I'm honest. Maybe it's just because you're consistently out douched by Xander every week. Hard to say.

Eventually, though, you lose the soul. You've got to admit, it's impressive that the only time you're ever really charismatic is when you're a soulless monster. I actually kind of like you when you kill Jenny Calendar. She was a big liar too. So big ups to Jesus for that one or whatever. Meanwhile, what's the big diff between soulless you and soulful you other than the fun factor? I mean, either way, you kind of manipulate people around you and make sweeping decisions without consulting anyone else. So other than the killing and the apocalypse making, it's kind of the same shimmy and shake, isn't it? Oh, blah, you have your soul again. Have a fun hundred years in hell, I guess.

Oh, you're back. I'm bored of you now, you melodramatic eunuch. Can't you go to a place that's else? You can? Oh, awesome. See ya later!

Some time later...

Oh, it's you again. Can we do the cliff note's of the next five years? Evil Lawyers, Powers that Be plan some stuff, Shanshu prophecy, Darla Part 2: Electric Bugaloo,Crazy Dru is crazy, Buffy's dead, Darla's pregnant, Connor's a douche (like father, like son), Cordy makes a great door prize, hey Angelus, see ya Angelus, hey Gina Torres, see ya Gina Torres, Coma Cordy, Fat Lawyer Angel, our ratings are low so let's bring on Spike, everybody dies, the end. I'm sure I'm missing stuff but who cares, really? What matters is that, after all that you went right back to the well.

Is it a coincidence that Angel's return coincides with Buffy becoming a comic book character and hence having bigger boobs? Just food for thought. No more curse this time. Any difference in Angel? Nah, not really. He's still making big decisions without consulting anybody first, he's still got to be the alpha male, and it's still all about Buffy. This time he has a super awesome prophecy that really works in his favor, though. That sure is lucky, Angel. Except Buffy isn't into prophecy. Bummer. Don't worry though, you can follow her around like a puppy dog just like the old days. Hooray!

The End

Post Script: So here's the point of all this mean stuff. If you are wondering if Angel is redeemable, I have to say that, in my opinion, he's no more irredeemable than he ever has been. Dude's been a douche nozzle from day one. I could have gone on for paragraphs more about all the stupid, selfish shit he's done. If you view Angel through this narrow lens then, yeah, of course you're going to hate him and the developments between he and Buffy in Season 8. He's more complex than that though. All the characters are. But you can boil each of them down to their worst traits.

I thought perhaps we could use this post as a discussion starter; what did you think? Do you agree or disagree about what was said regarding Angel? Why and why not?
 
crazysoulless
crazysoulless
I laughed so much reading that!
K
kadrikaur
It's genius, I bow before it!
Hah. That was... Quite amusing, actually. 😀 I agree with most of it, although the synopsis of the shows seemed awfully black and white. It's like saying that life is just breathing and paying taxes. Yes, but there's more to it. 😀 Still, I found it to be a fresh perspective and a fun view.
 
Hah. That was... Quite amusing, actually. 😀 I agree with most of it, although the synopsis of the shows seemed awfully black and white. It's like saying that life is just breathing and paying taxes. Yes, but there's more to it. 😀 Still, I found it to be a fresh perspective and a fun view.

I think it was supposed to be black and white. As the post script says, it was boiling him down to his very worst qualities.

I expect the second part of this will deal with Angel's good points.
 
I still liked Buffy's boobs in S3, beginning of S4, and first half of S5. And in the right outfits they looked good the rest of the time too.

While Angel has a lot of good qualities and can be noble and self-sacrificing, he has been a major DOUCHE. He does assert his Alpha Male status, is a tad sexist, makes huge decisions for people, jumps to conclusions, is a hypocrite, incredibly petty, etc.

Drunken Douche
Murdering Douche
Accursed Douche
Buffy's Douche

The writer forgot "Champion Douche".
 
I still liked Buffy's boobs in S3, beginning of S4, and first half of S5. And in the right outfits they looked good the rest of the time too.

While Angel has a lot of good qualities and can be noble and self-sacrificing, he has been a major DOUCHE. He does assert his Alpha Male status, is a tad sexist, makes huge decisions for people, jumps to conclusions, is a hypocrite, incredibly petty, etc.

Drunken Douche
Murdering Douche
Accursed Douche
Buffy's Douche

The writer forgot "Champion Douche".

Name me one Buffyverse character who hasn't earned induction into the Douche Hall of Fame and I will give you a million euros 😉
 
crazysoulless
crazysoulless
The difference is that Angel's default setting is "Douche" while other characters are only douchelike for a few scenes or episodes.
Name me one Buffyverse character who hasn't earned induction into the Douche Hall of Fame and I will give you a million euros 😉

Tara. Fred. Oz. Doyle.

You owe me a LOT of money. 😀

crazysoulless agrees: You stole my Euros!

Yup, pretty much.


😀
 
crazysoulless
crazysoulless
You stole my Euros!
W
Willow My Love
Tara cast a spell on the Scoobies and almost got them killed; Oz cheated on Willow. Animal or not, he cheated on her.
Tara. Fred. Oz. Doyle.

You owe me a LOT of money. 😀

Tara-Went along with Willow's plan to bring Buffy back from Heaven even though mere months earlier she had been adamant about how wrong ressurrection was when Dawn wanted to bring back Joyce. Going along with something you know to be utterly wrong because of your girlfriend is fairly Douche worthy in my book.

Fred-Cheated on Gunn with Wesley and treated him horribly after what happened with the professor.

Oz-Cheated on Willow with Verucca.

Doyle-Abandoned the Bracken clan when they pleaded with him for help and they ended up massacred.
 
Flannen
Flannen
Care to write a Spike version of this essay/blog thing with me? ;)
crazysoulless
crazysoulless
I was extremely disappointed and kind of disgusted with Tara in Bargainning #1. And with Fred for the way she treated Gunn in S4. The Doyle situation was complicated as was the Oz situation.
It's awful easy to sit back and judge someone by just pointing out and ridiculing their worst worst characteristics and ignoring the good that they managed to do while supposedly being all that stupid and wrong at every turn. Granted, with Angel it's much easier to do than with any of the other characters on either show, but even he has his redeeming qualities. For one, he's...well, mainly...at least he never... Well, he saved a puppy once. That's gotta count for something, right?

Right?

Is anybody out there?
 
crazysoulless
crazysoulless
I love the direction that paragraph went.
Flannen agrees: Care to write a Spike version of this essay/blog thing with me? 😉

Oh, my friend, you are ON! :hehe:
 
Tara-Went along with Willow's plan to bring Buffy back from Heaven even though mere months earlier she had been adamant about how wrong ressurrection was when Dawn wanted to bring back Joyce. Going along with something you know to be utterly wrong because of your girlfriend is fairly Douche worthy in my book.

Fred-Cheated on Gunn with Wesley and treated him horribly after what happened with the professor.

Oz-Cheated on Willow with Verucca.

Doyle-Abandoned the Bracken clan when they pleaded with him for help and they ended up massacred.

Lol, one less-than-magnanimous deed does not earn you the title of "Douche". (And who got the idea of turning the name of a woman's hygiene product into an insult? 😛 )
 
crazysoulless
crazysoulless
A man probably. They are afraid of "woman's hygiene products".
Flannen agrees: Care to write a Spike version of this essay/blog thing with me? 😉

Oh, my friend, you are ON! :hehe:

YEAH! 😀

As for this article? I think I'd be annoyed with it if it was a more substantiated argument. It's easy to take everything out of context and boil it down to selfish motivation, which in most cases with Angel it's not. So while it attempts to be humorous, I wasn't won over and for that reason I can't agree or disagree with anything that it says. Well, actually, I could but then I think it takes something away from its purpose! lol
 
Lol, one less-than-magnanimous deed does not earn you the title of "Douche". (And who got the idea of turning the name of a woman's hygiene product into an insult? 😛 )

When it involves ripping someone from Heaven, it does!

It's not just the Buffyverse, we could all write our own versions of this blog about ourselves. The point is that being a card holder of the Doucge Hall of Fame doesn't mean that that is all you are, or more specifically, all Angel is.

I found this blog to be very tongue-in-cheek, I think the argument is intended to be both ridiculous and truthfull.
 
When it involves ripping someone from Heaven, it does!

It's not just the Buffyverse, we could all write our own versions of this blog about ourselves. The point is that being a card holder of the Doucge Hall of Fame doesn't mean that that is all you are, or more specifically, all Angel is.

I found this blog to be very tongue-in-cheek, I think the argument is intended to be both ridiculous and truthfull.

The only person that that applies to would be Tara, and she had the purest of pure intentions. 🙂

And yeah, we probably could. We've all done amoral things at some point (and if you haven't, then check your pulse- You may be deceased. 😉 ), and we've all grown because of them. Whatever. All "Good feelings" and such. 😀 (I'm starting to wonder what "Morals" really are...)

And good luck writing your Spike analysis!
 
The only person that that applies to would be Tara, and she had the purest of pure intentions. 🙂

So had Angel for the majority of the things mentioned in that blog. But we all know where good intentions lead to...

And yeah, we probably could. We've all done amoral things at some point (and if you haven't, then check your pulse- You may be deceased. 😉 ), and we've all grown because of them. Whatever. All "Good feelings" and such. 😀 (I'm starting to wonder what "Morals" really are...

To me, morals are sounding board for the choices you make, however they do not gaurantee the "right" decision.
 
LMAO, that was a funny read. Very cleverly written, love the tone of it.
I particularly laughed at the summed up Angel seasons.
But yes the last line says it all - you can boil anyone down to their worst traits and it won't look very good.
 
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Name me one Buffyverse character who hasn't earned induction into the Douche Hall of Fame and I will give you a million euros 😉

Lorne
Doyle
Souled!Spike
Joyce
Oz
Betta George
Drogyn

We should set up some kind of installment plan 😉

Tara-Went along with Willow's plan to bring Buffy back from Heaven even though mere months earlier she had been adamant about how wrong ressurrection was when Dawn wanted to bring back Joyce. Going along with something you know to be utterly wrong because of your girlfriend is fairly Douche worthy in my book.

Fred-Cheated on Gunn with Wesley and treated him horribly after what happened with the professor.

Oz-Cheated on Willow with Verucca.

Doyle-Abandoned the Bracken clan when they pleaded with him for help and they ended up massacred.

Werewolf!Oz was at fault there, don't know that Willow even blamed Oz in the long-term. And Doyle feeling guilty for that showed what a stand-up guy he was since he couldn't have helped them anyway (out-of-work Teacher's financial resources, and fighting prowess well-below even skilled humans like Gunn, Wes or Woods).

Not to mention:
Lorne
Souled!Spike
Joyce
Betta George
Drogyn
 
I don't know. I think Joyce was a douche on a number of occasions. She was a good person and loved Buffy and was a great mother to Dawn. But she was far from being Lorelei Gilmore (mom on Gilmore Girls) or Annie Camden (mom on 7th Heaven). There were a lot of times I wanted to shake her.
 
Souled!Spike
I humbly disagree.

Betta George
Heh, yeah, most of the bad things he did it was while forced by Vamp-Gunn. 🙁


I don't know. I think Joyce was a douche on a number of occasions. She was a good person and loved Buffy and was a great mother to Dawn. But she was far from being Lorelei Gilmore (mom on Gilmore Girls) or Annie Camden (mom on 7th Heaven). There were a lot of times I wanted to shake her.

Joyce was imperfect, certainly. One thing that always frustrated me in season 3 was when she kept insisting that Buffy ran away. Sure when she told her not to come back it was impulsive and in the heat of the moment and she didn't actually mean it but how was Buffy supposed to know that? I generally liked her though.
 
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