Angel Kills Drogyn, What Does That Mean?

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"Power Play," AtS 5.21, begins with Angel killing Drogyn. It was part of his initiation into the Circle of the Black Thorn. Drogyn was chosen exactly because he was pure and good. Angel killed him and drank his blood. Did he ever feel remorse for that? Were there consequences for that?

I must admit I haven't read Angel S6. I started, but soured on it early. Maybe the answer is there.
 
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I kind of want to say something about dorm symbolism here, but I shall digress. :P
Angel has his sights fixed on destroying the Circle Of The Black Thorn, and killing Drogyn, who was unquestionably going to die anyway, was a great way of showing the Circle members that he was serious about joining the group. From the brief glimpse that we got of Drogyn when the hood was taken off, he had almost certainly been tortured quite a bit, and would be tortured more if Angel hadn't given him a quick, relatively merciful death.

Sounds logical when looked at that way, doesn't it?

The bottom line is, Angel, supposedly one of the good guys, killed a man who had been a Champion for almost certainly more centuries than Angel had years since being cursed with his soul. Why? In order to advance a plan that Angel himself described as little more than a gesture, a slap in the Senior Partners' collective faces, and most likely a suicidal gesture at that. If he was so into suicidal gestures, why couldn't he have made one by trying to get someone who he called several episodes earlier as a friend. With friends like Angel, who needs enemies?
 
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"With friends like *beep*, who needs enemies?" This! A million times this!
While the above is a very fascinatingly ambiguous reply on how White Avenger feels about Angel, it doesn't really answer the question.

As far as I know, there was no real consequences of Angel killing Drogyn. I've only read a few comics myself and know a brief overview and nothing about Drogyn has ever come up. Though, for killing such a character it would be a wasted opportunity to not have consequences or story points derived from it.
 
Zeppo said:
While the above is a very fascinatingly ambiguous reply on how White Avenger feels about Angel, it doesn't really answer the question.
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You should try giving a coherent answer on the flu medication I'm taking now.

(Try to hold the racket down, kiddies, the old man's goin' to bed now)
 
white avenger said:
The bottom line is, Angel, supposedly one of the good guys, killed a man who had been a Champion for almost certainly more centuries than Angel had years since being cursed with his soul. Why? In order to advance a plan that Angel himself described as little more than a gesture, a slap in the Senior Partners' collective faces, and most likely a suicidal gesture at that. If he was so into suicidal gestures, why couldn't he have made one by trying to get someone who he called several episodes earlier as a friend. With friends like Angel, who needs enemies?
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Did you see a valid alternative?
 
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Nothing that wouldn't have involved almost certain myrterdom, but that, ultimately, was Angel's plan anyhow.
So what happens to the deeper well? Did the old ones vanish after the stone was smashed? If not who is the new keeper or is it unguarded? It would be interesting to see another old one get resurrected because Angel never put a new guardian in place.
 
thunderhawk86 said:
So what happens to the deeper well? Did the old ones vanish after the stone was smashed? If not who is the new keeper or is it unguarded? It would be interesting to see another old one get resurrected because Angel never put a new guardian in place.
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Since Drogyn is the Guardian, and assuming that he would be fully aware of what the responsibility would entail, he would have almost certainly have appointed a substitute to look after things in his absence. For that matter, he might have been sent to LA on official business by his superiors, in which case THEY would have appointed an interim Guardian. OR, the job of Guardian might not be a constant duty, but one that rotated between two or more beings, in which case he was in LA during his free time.

Or maybe things were pretty quiet under the tree, and he thought that if he just slipped away for a short time, no one would notice.
 
Angel killing Drogyn, was one of the things that made me lose all respect for him. Drogyn was in danger because Angel used him in the first place, the whole I'll pretend to be evil stops right then similiar to the whole Twilight debacle. Killing Drogyn and the Black Thorn didn't help anybody the only thing it did was to endanger the whole city and more innocents. The writers aren't doing the character any favors by coming up with execuse after execuse for him to murder innocents if he suppost to be the suppost champion of humanity, it shows a completle disregard for life which doesn't work if your suppost to be a champion for humanity and helping the helpless(Angel's original trademark). Much like in season 8 he justifies death by thinking he can make it count for something but that only works if he isn't one is helping to murder others for stupid vendettas which both the Black Thorn and Twilight debacle fall under. Angel from season 1 was the real champion, Angel from season 5 is not one, he lies, manipulates, betrays,and murders he can brood all he wants it still won't make all the evil things he done then and afterwards any better. Maybe Faith can make him the champion he was in season 1 but I hope they don't try and glamorize his evil deeds like they did in season 5 that won't make me feel sympathy.
 
Angel did a lot of questionable things in season 5 like killing Drogyn and telling Lorne to kill Lindsey...this season needed Buffy to come in and knock some sense into Angel
 
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