Animal cruelty and diet

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Inspired by @ILLYRIAN 's comment on the thread 'The chocolate is on it's way'

ILLYRIAN said:
Do you use chicken eggs at all?
Have you ever considered those firms that sell eggs in supermarkets et cetera. Given that only female chickens lay those eggs, and the chickens cannot be sexed until after they are hatched, ever considered how many thousands of male chooks are killed each day, and not always humanely.
Try watching how they are killed and try eating an egg from a shop again.
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Have you ever witnessed an animal that you eat regularly being tortured ?
If so, has it changed your diet and how you look at food ? Or it didn't have an effect on you diet wise ?
 
Well, I come from a family with a lot of hunters so... I've seen a lot of the manual "make it into food" process. That doesn't put me off as much as the meat industry which I find appalling.

So sure, it has effected me diet wise as I'm a vegan.

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Professor Walsh
Professor Walsh
I can easily see why going vegan is a logical choice for many. I have a harder time seeing why cows and pigs are food while seals and other animals with cute eyes are off limits.
With an MSc in Animal Science, I daresay I know the pros and cons of modern animal production. Do I reflect on it? Yes. Do I eat eggs? Yes. While I would welcome situation where it was viable to use a breed like Lohmann Dual, I must say that the live maceration directly after hatching kills the chick in one seconds' time. I spend more time trying to figure out how I feel about trawling, cruelty-wise, than about the male chickens.
 
Smile Time said:
Like China and Japan ?
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I don't know all that much about Japan. From what I know about China, though, I'd say that I object to the way dogs are treated before consumption. The fact that they choose to eat dogs doesn't matter to me.

On a personal level I feel that eating animals that eat other mammals has quite the irrational ick-factor, so I don't think I'd eat cat or dog myself, no matter if it was as cruel or not as hunting a wild animal. I might do an exception for bear meat, should I get the chance. And I've had seal once.
 
@Anyanka Bunny Killer, how about you? What's your take on the question?
 
Professor Walsh said:
On a personal level I feel that eating animals that eat other mammals has quite the irrational ick-factor, so I don't think I'd eat cat or dog myself, no matter if it was as cruel or not as hunting a wild animal.
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Their meats are also more risky than grass-eating animals'. The parasites in omnivores and carnivores are more compatible than herbivores with human body. I can ask for my beef steak to be medium rare, but I don't dare to consume any pork cooked less than 2 hours.
 
I really don't eat that much meat, if I'm being honest. I would actually have no real problem becoming a vegetarian. I avoid eating things like deer, rabbits, lambs, etc. You know, cute animals. I could absolutely not stand the thought of eating these animals. My dad and my uncle eat deer every now and then, but their friend is a hunter and there are many forests where I live. There is definitely no animal cruelty.
Most of the meat that I do eat comes form local butchers whose animals didn't lead miserable lives. So to answer your question: No, I haven't witnessed animal cruelty, but my diet is very much influenced by the way I feel about animals.
 
I like meat. I haven't eaten much lately, but meat is a beautiful thing. And honestly, I really don't think much about how animals are feeling before I eat them.
 
Professor Walsh said:
Bunny Killer: Sorry, I had too many threads open at once and got my thread starters mixed up. I should have asked @Smile Time.
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A while ago, I saw a bunch of chickens stuffed in a truck, alive and fidgeting (at the time, I was a carnivore).

After seeing that, I seriously started to consider becoming a vegetarian, because I then saw for myself all the suffering a cow might go through in order to be a steak on my plate.

I'm not yet at the point where I consider myself an 'out and proud' vegetarian (the kind that eats dairy and eggs), but the thought of eating anything that used to be alive revolts me.

And as to what I think other people should do, I would recommend people to cut down on the quantity of meat that they eat (so that less animals will get murdered for food), but I would never tell someone to stop eating meat because it's murder (even thought it is).
 
Smile Time said:
And as to what I think other people should do, I would recommend people to cut down on the quantity of meat that they eat (so that less animals will get murdered for food), but I would never tell someone to stop eating meat because it's murder (even thought it is).
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Reducing the amount of meat eaten and being conscious of what meat we do choose to put on our plates is sensible in a lot of ways.
 
I eat a lot of vegetarian and vegan foods already, mostly because to me they taste just as good, sometimes better. The only meats I still eat on occasion are chicken and seafood. I really love my fish and seafood. Mackerel and prawns are my life source, homemade chicken burgers and chicken roast dinners are my other half's favourite, but to be honest, if he didn't eat them I probably wouldn't either.

Echoing Taake that I find the meat, (and food), industry in general appalling. I would quite happily eat meat that I knew was not chemically treated from animals who had a healthy and fair life, from a farm or otherwise, but it ain't likely, is it. It's hard in the city to find a good butcher. So that's my reasoning for not eating much meat.

When I lived in another city (Edinburgh) my ex partner and I would get farm eggs delivered by a boy from a local farm. He came to our door one day and asked if we were interested and of course we were. That's another thing I find hard to find here.
 
I eat meat, but I care about where the meat is sourced from and I want to know it's lived a good, happy life. I've not seen first hand how the meat is treated, so I can only go on the word of my local butcher, but I avoid supermarket meat like the plague. I only buy free range locally sourced meat and eggs, from our butcher down the road. If I need to know where it's from, I know he can trace it back to the farm it grew up on. We pay more for meat and eggs than you'd pay at the supermarket, but it's worth it in my opinion.

I know I'll probably never know really how the animal lived, but unless I own the farm, I'm not going to.
 
Anyanka Bunny Killer, from reply #13
was that meant to be funny in some form or other
Quote: I don't think much about how animals are feeling before I eat them.
I'm guessing the animal's are dead before you eat them, and as such they don't have feeling.

Did you eat any Bunnies for Easter?
 
I eat meat but I'd be happy to only have it occasionally since I have digestion problems. I don't think the amount of meat we eat is correct, considering that meat needed to be caught first, not mass produced.

GwenRaiden said:
It's hard in the city to find a good butcher.
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Luckily I have a fantastic butcher on my main street, and his place is always got queues. There's a real noticeable difference in the quality in proper butcher meat.
GwenRaiden said:
When I lived in another city (Edinburgh) my ex partner and I would get farm eggs delivered by a boy from a local farm. He came to our door one day and asked if we were interested and of course we were. That's another thing I find hard to find here.
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One of my partner's friends, who has unfortunately moved to London, would keep his own chickens and bring over a box of eggs when he visited. They were delicious, big and deep orange yolks too. I may ask about keeping chickens on our bit of land.
 
GwenRaiden
GwenRaiden
You should.
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