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In Doppelgangland Willow says that vamp Willow is "kinda gay", but in "The Wish" she's seen all snuggly with Xander...hmmmmm
 
Well,Vamp Willow is obviously bisexual. I mean,come on,have you ever heard from a vamp that was totally straight?. I'm sure Puppy Angel was Vamp Xander's puppy too😛.
Vampires aren't straigh. You can't live forever without wondering what it'd be like to be with someone of your own gender...ask Angel and Spike if you don't believe me😉
 
Actually I have this one book, that I have to find, I think it got buried in my car somewhere, but it actually says that all characters in the buffyverse are essentially bisexual and details some of the same sex relationships that the author perceived.
 
Vamp Willow was gay, she just maybe hadn't realised it by then (like human Willow hadn't). Normal Willow had a relationship with Oz and she was gay, she just didn't know, and Angel had said in that episode that a vamps personality is the same as the human it once was, so vamp Willow had the same personality as Willow Willow.
 
I think Willow was bisexual more than she was gay. Willow fell in love with the person Tara was, not just because she was a girl. If she met a guy who she had the chemistry she had with Tara she probably would have dated him.
 
Cordy is right,Human Willow is bi,just like Vamp Willow.
Btw,what does the book say about Angel and Spike?😛lol
 
I don't remember exactly..I gotta find it at home. I do remember references to Xanders bisexuality..particulary with Oz & Riley.
 
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Cordy_Chase said:
In Doppelgangland Willow says that vamp Willow is "kinda gay", but in "The Wish" she's seen all snuggly with Xander...hmmmmm

I think Vamp Willow was just a tainted mirror image of Willow herself. It turns out that Willow is bisexual- so likewise so is Vamp Willow. Xander was always Willows first true love, and deep down through both relationships ( Oz and Tara) she still loved him. The apple never falls too far from the tree.... :winking11
 
I think that Vamp Willow's relationships follow along the way that the fanged Four seemed to keep tumbling into new pairs (except spike, who only had eyes for dru, sorry magui), and Spike's mom going after spike. It seems to all come down to causing pain and gaining power and feeling pleasure, with little time spent in love or actual relationships. That's just me though...
 
It wouldn't surprise me if all the characters in Btvs and Angel are bisexual! Especially Xander I'm sure is. And Spike. And Angel...And Willow has to be bi, and not gay, so Vamp Willow would be the same. It was probably a hint of Willow turning gay in s4...
 
I just watched Superstar this morning and doesn't it seem like Xander has a thing for Johnathan? Also in S4, when Buffy takes Xander down to the initiative, he says something about sex with Riley...I know he was joking, but there is sometimes a lot of truth stated in jest.
 
Cordy_Chase said:
I just watched Superstar this morning and doesn't it seem like Xander has a thing for Johnathan? Also in S4, when Buffy takes Xander down to the initiative, he says something about sex with Riley...I know he was joking, but there is sometimes a lot of truth stated in jest.

Wouldn't surprise me. I think Xander is bi! Mostly cos of the way he reacted in s5 when the Buffybot was there, and they thought Buffy was having sex with Spike, and all the things he said about Spike, and Buffy says: "I'm not having sex with Spike. But I'm starting to think you are!" : rotflmao
 
Wow. Okay So wow. I mean I don't see all members of BTVS and Angel being bi. specailly not Angel or Spike.::huh1::

I think it was cool that the foreshadow of Willz gayness was mentioned in dopplegangland adn It works for me that she'd be bi since she did still have feelings for Oz.:love1:

I hear that in recent showings of the ep that the whole line about Willz vamp-self being Gay was cut out. : yikes : wich is wierd since it's already been aired with the line in it anyways.
 
As far as Superstar goes, I think everybody had a thing for Johnathan 😀

NSlayMode said:
Xander was always Willows first true love, and deep down through both relationships ( Oz and Tara) she still loved him. The apple never falls too far from the tree.... :winking11

Exactly, Willow is most definitely bi. If she had somehow managed a relationship with Xander and it lasted, well she'd be dating a man. And I agree that she fell in love with the person that Tara was, irregardless of gender.

As for each character in the 'verse being somewhat bi-sexual - I'm not sure on that one.
 
Cordelia said:
I don't remember exactly..I gotta find it at home. I do remember references to Xanders bisexuality..particulary with Oz & Riley.

What book is this? I think tihs is something I have to read!!!


I believe that Vamp/Willow was just a preview that Willow was going to start drifting towards women. Vamp/Willow was definately 50/50.
 
I agree that most (if not all) characters of Buffy are Bisexual. Vamp Xander was definatly Bisexual. I think Willow and Xander had a lot of fun talking turns torturing Angel. Also something happened where he was walking by some guy and ran his fingers down some guy very sensually. I think all Vampires are Bisexual because sex to them has to do with hunger and bloodlust which a vampire can get from either gender. I think the human characters on Buffy were Bi-sexual because they were just written that way.

What's that book called? It sounds REALLY interesting.
 
I would say that Vamp Willow was bi. She was willow's "free" twin. And willow's persona in the demon world. But they weren't all that different. If Willow could love Oz and then Tara then why could Vamp Willow not be allowed to love Vamp Xander and women.
 
whether or not the wish's willow is gay or bi -that's open to debate. i guess you view it however you want. but the gay refrance was definite foreshadowing for willow becoming a lesbian herself.
 
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