Are we wrong?

[SC7 Fan]

Not a show we need a spreadsheet to figure out (Lost, X-Files), but one that was smart and also easy to follow.

Good point. I was looking on the internet the other day and actually found a reference chart online! Here it is.

Sorry but I just had to put that on here. Not that any of us needs it.

 

[Lou]

Great, NOW I'm all confused. I'm gonna have to start back at season 1 to figure that one out.

Although, I DID understand the "did time as a rat" one.

Shouldn't we count Amy and Willow as "Friends" or at least "have been friends"? They didn't. I think that means the whole thing is bunk.

!!!!WAIT! I don't see Buffy's "Did time as a rat" box. AND it appears to say that Spike killed Dru....(did Spike kill Dru and I missed it?) Yup, I'm now thinking it's total bunk!

 

[NightBird]

Wrong, I don't see how we could be.

We have all been touched by Buffy for whatever reason and our love of what is 'only a tv show' can't be understood by people who don't share the same passion.

All though I do sometimes think that I was wrong to pay £30.00 pounds for a replica Mr.Gordo, haha, I had to have it.

 

[November]

Wow what a great thread to read through! Seems like we are all on the same page so to speak 😛
There are so many points I agree on but I think I would blow up the karma thingo if I give anymore karma today!

My dad was once worried about me watching buffy, he even asked my psychiatrist about it who also agreed with me that it was a perfectly healthy way escape reality for 40 mins at a time😀! He has since changed his mind after seeing a few episodes....
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Blondie Bear agrees: Your psychiatrist or your dad? 😵

Whoops, dad has changed his mind. LOL. I have a feeling my psyc is a closet buffy fan 😛

 

[InsaneMystic]

There's no way to ever know what is fictional and what isn't. For all I know, my life could well be a TV show, computer game or novel, watched/played/read by some kind of higher entity. (Though I wonder who'd be pathetic enough to do consume something this uneventful for entertainment purposes... it's more likely to be a science assignment. 😉 ) So basically, I don't see interest in a TV show as any worse than interest in the so-called real life.

But leaving my solipsistically philosophical ranting aside... Echoing what WA said, the most important thing is we BB'ers use our interest in the Buffyverse as the basis for communication and friendship (even where our opinions could hardly differ more *winking at Joyce Summers*). To me, that clearly differentiates us from addicts - people who could be called, according to one possible definition, "communicating" exclusively with the drug of their choice instead of with other human beings.

 

[OldSwede]

So many good things have already been said on this thread, and I'm not going to repeat them, but I did want to add that even though it's true there is a degree of harmless escapism in watching the series, I don't think it would have such a grip on people like us if it was "only" that (there is plenty of good escapism around). I believe that not only is it harmless and not wrong, but there is even a good chance that you become a better person by watching Buffy. There are very strong and positive morals in the series, with role models that are really something to try to live up to. Pick your own.

 

[The Arcane]

There is nothing wrong with having any interest you enjoy that a) doesn't hurt anyone else and b) doesn't get in the way of you living a healthy life yourself. Beyond those two obvious points I don't see that anyone should be questioned on how they want to spend their free time.

Other than Celine Dion fans, obviously...

 

[Superstar]

Occasionally, I'm right about being wrong, wrong about being right, right about being right and wrong about being wrong.

 

[Tueuse de Vampires]

I don't think we're wrong. Honsetly. everybody gets overly excited about something, may it be a book, some sort of sports or whatever. So our thing's a TVShow, no big deal.

 

[The Arcane]

I do think there needs to be limits to any obsession, but that's true about anything in life. Everything in moderation. I love all things Whedon but I couldn't have that as the centre of my world. Apart from all the other television series I enjoy I've got many other interests to fit into my life.

Rock is probably the closest thing I have to an obsession and that is truly something I couldn't manage without. With shows like Buffy and Angel I absolutely adore them but if push came to shove then I'm sure I'd cope without them.

I think that's probably where the line needs to be drawn between a passion and an obsession. Knowing that you could let something go if you absolutely had to. Not that you would ever choose to let it go but that you could if necessary. That's an important difference, in my mind.

 

[The Chosen]

Lemme start by saying that Buffy is a very influential show, but it happens to be for the right reasons. It teaches us to stick up for what's right and fight for what we believe in. It also helped me overcome a fear of mine today; I went off the diving board at the pool today. I got up there and was about to get off before this thought crossed my mind:

"Buffy jumped off a tower, so why can't I jump off a diving board?"

And before I knew it, I did it! And then I did it again, and again. And it was all thanks to Buffy. So no, we aren't wrong for realizing the amazingness that is Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel and Firefly and all that stuff. We aren't wrong, we're lucky.

 

[groovygarden]

I don't think it's wrong, but for me at least, there is a definite element of escapism there, which occassionally borders on the unhealthy. I'll watch the show more often when I'm a bit fed up or need distracting from something.

I wouldn't tell my friends quite how much I've enjoyed rewatching the show for the first time this year, or that I post on Buffy-Boards as they might think that was a little odd! Thing is though, I don't think there's much difference between having a good online discussion around a moral/ethical/motivational issue raised on Buffy or Angel, and discussing a 19th century novel at my book club.

I've been rewatching Buffy & Angel since January, and am going to feel quite lost (and a little depressed) next month when I watch the end of Angel Season 5. Surely that can't be normal?!

 

[Fake Shemp]

i think its normal when you've watched the show so long and its such a big part of your life.... ive watched since it started and i dont think i would be me without it, id be some less obsessed girl who talks not as funny and without quoting.

some of the relationships in my life wouldn't be the same...

i wouldn't have a cat named willow too(who i stayed up till 4am waiting for it to stop raining to get her in, she goes and hides and wont come out in storms).... (xander ran away to another family across from us... naughty cat!)

 

[hyperballadbrad]

Hmm well, it depends how much love and appreciation puts into something.

I mean, if something like an artist or a tv show starts to rule your life, you become dependent on it etc, then that is a bad thing. Any kind of strong dependence to something in your life isn't going to be very constructive on a personal level. People end up hiding behind them and living through them, which is a shame.

But life isn't supposed to be one thing or another. If i wasn't so into Buffy, then it would just be something else. Every person has their own vices.

 

[Fake Shemp]

i like that, if it wasnt buffy itd be something else.....yeah we could have all ended up being smackheads

 

[T.I.P]

or stamp collectors or trainspotters.

 

[Fake Shemp]

oooh we cant have that now can we! imagine what the world would be like without us and without buffy... not a world i wanna live in mister

 

[arabella]

I am fabulously amused with this thread... what kind of insane troll logic is it to ask a bunch of people who are members of a btvs forum if it's wrong. Even if we think its wrong (which it is not btw...own your weirdness people) and have a lovely thing called cognitive dissonance, we will do a beautiful thing and rationalize or justify until we can convince ourselves that it is A-OK. We want to believe that we are critical thinkers or whatever, but nosomuch. If you really want to know if we are "wrong" then ask random street people...you'll get a better sample, at least a less bias sample.

and at the end of the day...who cares, I mean really? either you choose to do this or you don't. No one is making you and it probably isn't hurting anyone. also..."wrong" is soooooo subjective.

 

[Mesektet Ra]

arabella = win. This is fact.

But actually on topic - .:sigh:. Okay. I think, to the casual observer, someone like myself who has the Buffy B tattooed on my ankle and collects the comics and references it every chance I get would be kind of...obsessed. Which is fine, for me. I've really never been one to give a damn in the first place.

If I'm cool with my obsession, I don't particularly see why anyone else's opinion should matter. Everyone's got their own bag, baby, and mine just happens to be good TV in the form of a blonde with a pointy stick.