Ok, this thread is called "Bangel thread"...so I want to ask the opinion of Bangel fans or other ship fans if they wish to answer, about some general matters about Angel , Buffy and her relationships.
I will not turn this into spuffy/bangel battleship but I need to express some opinions.
Lately I have been reading either here or on the net, about bangel not having enough passion or being the high school flirt and that Buffy grew up and decided that spike and her share a "more adult" relationship.
I just want to support bangel for something. How can they say there is not enough passion? I mean in "Surprise" or "IWRY" or so many other episodes...have they seen how they look each other?That they barely hold their hands off each other? and certainly...the sexual relationship can not be compared cause Angel and Buffy had one night. Spike carries no curse and him and Buffy had a very different relationship. So, no comparison there.
And why is spuffy the more adult relationship? Because Buffy was so messed up and decided to use someone for "Fun?" and "feel sth"?
Also, I am also really curious why everyone says that by the the time of Chosen, Buffy and Angel don't know each other anymore! BIG mistake! yeah they do! They have evolved as personalities but they still know each other!
I want to point out something: this is no fight topic. These are my honest questions on the matter. I am curious how you guys see that.
As for the passion thing, here's my take on it... Bangel was arguably a very passionate 'ship. But people often disregard that, because Bangel's
image, Bangel's
nature, was more of an innocent and romantic yet tragic first love, not some wild crazy passion thing.
😀 First loves often aren't about passion, they're about discovering what you want in a relationship and what love is. Yes, they can be very passionate, but the older and "wiser" 'ships, the less innocent ones, are usually the one's that get the "passionate" title.
Of course, Bangel not being known as "passionate" suits me fine, I like my bangel sweet and innocent, like freshly baked chocolate chip cookies. Sugary love.
🙂 I wouldn't be happy if Buffy and Angel were having sex all the time, I think that it would take away that sexy UST thing that they have.
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Spuffy is considered that more "adult-like" relationship because, imo, they knew what they were getting into. Bangel was more of a blind love. Buffy even said "All I see is you! All I want is you." Whereas with Spike, Buffy saw more of the big picture. "No, I don't see fat grandchildren in the offing with Spike." She could see the future more, and had a greater understanding of life and love itself. She was wiser and more mature, therefore her relationships would reflect on that. They were the Second Love, and by most people's standards, that makes them the wiser love.
🙂 Not necessarily the BETTER love, but the wiser one. Both have loved and lost, and they are more into "The greater good." More or less, obviously this explanation doesn't cover EVERYTHING.
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This quote from SMG really describes it... "The thing about Buffy and Spike is they understand each other on a level that nobody else does. They've both lived a hundred lives and I think there's a connection there that we will see evolve over the next couple of years where she realizes that he really is someone that she can trust, someone that's a companion to her and someone that really understands her unlike anybody else."
As for not knowing each other anymore... Well, here's my thoughts: Buffy and Angel will always know a part of each other better than anybody else EVER will. Always. But after living separate lives for so many years, both have grown to be MUCH different people with different priorities and experiences who the other really doesn't know anymore. As I said, they will always know a part of the other, but the actual person has changed a lot. You don't automatically always know a person just because you knew them once.
🙂 As Angel said in Sanctuary, they're not a part of each others' lives, and they don't know each other anymore. And I believe that.
But, in the end, I believe that they WILL meet again, under better circumstances of course, get to know the other again, reacquaint themselves, fall back in love with the person that the other has become, and finally have things go right for them.
🙂 They may have changed, but Buffy and Angel will always be the right person for the other.