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Beauty and the Beast

Writer: Marti Noxon
Director: James Whitmore, Jr.
Air Date: October 20, 1998

Trivia:

- Mr. Platt's smoking reinforces the show's clear bias against smoking, as every character in the show who has smoked has been either evil (Spike and Angelus), doomed (Laura in "Nightmares" and the woman who was Angel's first kill after re-losing his soul) or both (Sheila in "School Hard").

- When Giles remarks that time moves differently in the demon dimension, Buffy says, "I remember." That may imply that the netherworld into which she and Lily fell in "Anne" is the same demon dimension into which Angel was sucked in "Becoming, Part 2", or at least that they have the "time moves differently" thing in common.

- Willow is seen with a Scooby-Doo lunchbox, calling to mind the Scooby Gang's name, as the gang was named after Scooby.

- When Buffy talks to Debbie in the locker room, she is standing in front of a poster that reads "Most girls aren't attracted to dead guys".

References:

- The episode is bracketed by quotes from The Call of the Wild, the famous 1903 novel by Jack London.

- "It seems to soothe his savage beastie." Willow has become the latest to misquote the famous line, "Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast," from the first scene of the play The Mourning Bride by William Congreve.

- "Every guy, from Manimal down to Mr. I-Love-The-English-Patient, has beast in him." Manimal was a short-lived 1983 television series created by pop sci-fi king Glen Larson (Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, Knight Rider) about a man (played by Simon MacCorkindale) with the mystical ability to turn himself into just about any animal. The English Patient is the female-friendly Anthony Minghella film which won the 1996 Academy Award® for Best Picture.

- "Three-dimensional, Sensurround, the hills are alive..." A reference to The Sound of Music.

- "So while you two live out your grim fairy tale, two people are dead." This is a pun referring to the Brothers Grimm.

- The name of this episode is the same as famous Disney cartoon, The Beauty and the Beast, but with completly different plot.

- "Mr. Science was doing a Jekyll/Hyde deal." A reference to Robert Louis Stevenson's novel.

Body Count:

- Jeff Walken, Mr.Platt, Debbie, Pete.

Goofs:

- Willow, Xander, and Cordelia go to the morgue to examine a corpse. While they're examining, you can see the corpse breathing.

- In "Beauty and the Beasts," Giles berates Xander for falling asleep on Oz watch. But when Buffy takes a turn, Giles comes in to find her asleep and says nothing. (What's up with that?)

- When Debbie turns around from looking in the mirror, her black eye is gone.

- Buffy has a two a-clock appointment with the school counselor, but the wall-clock over the door shows a quarter past four.

Best Quotes:

- Cordelia: He didn't? Pete was a monster? Where have I been?
Xander: In your special place, Cor, which is why I adore you.

- Buffy: It's tricky covering a fresh shiner like that. You know what works?
Debbie: What?
Buffy: Don't get hit.

- Cordelia: Great, now I'm gonna be stuck with serious thoughts all day.

Arc significance

- Buffy will keep Angel's return hidden from others as she struggles to understand it.
- We see the first attempt of Oz to control being a werewolf and his doubts of whether the wolf is a part of him or a separate being.
- Angel's return from Hell will also be one of the premises for his own show.
- Buffy now has had two teachers that were nice to her and tried to understand her predicament die tragically shortly afterwards.




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When Giles remarks that time moves differently in the demon dimension, Buffy says, "I remember." That may imply that the netherworld into which she and Lily fell in "Anne" is the same demon dimension into which Angel was sucked in "Becoming, Part 2", or at least that they have the "time moves differently" thing in common.

If this is true, then maybe it's not an accident. Maybe the same force who brought Angel back from hell (whoever it was) made an earlier attempt to have Buffy go into hell and bring him back. But although its manipulations got Buffy into Ken's dimension, the rest of its plan didn't fall through, and Buffy merely returned to Earth along with the rescued slaves. Only when this failed did the one who brought Angel back resort to having him magically appear on Earth.
 
When Giles remarks that time moves differently in the demon dimension, Buffy says, "I remember." That may imply that the netherworld into which she and Lily fell in "Anne" is the same demon dimension into which Angel was sucked in "Becoming, Part 2", or at least that they have the "time moves differently" thing in common.

This is really stupid, IMO. And, I pretty sure canon proves this is wrong. Angel was sucked into Acathla's hell dimension. Ken's was created by him to force humans to work until they're old and die, then he sends them back up to the world after he's done with him.

When Angel returned from the hell dimension, he was in a feral state. Why would being in the dimension from Anne do that to him? It doesn't make sense whatsoever. Even if he was worked 'to death' like the rest of him, it wouldn't make him an animal like that.

And evenso, I don't see how her saying 'I remember' to Giles' explanation of how time works within dimensions indicates Angel was sent to the same dimension. She wouldn't have known that; had she did, she would've tried to rescue him.
 
It didn't say that Ken created that dimension himself. He could have just created the portal much like Professor Seidel didn't create Pylea (and look at the difference between Cordy's Pylea and Fred's Pylea). We don't know what was outside of that factory in the demon dimension that Ken lured the homeless people into. It could have been horrible. He might have just set up a factory for human slaves in a part of Hell. I'm not saying that Buffy was sent there to help Angel. I just think it is possible that she did end up in a part of the same Hell that he was in. They didn't enter through the same portal so they could have been thousands of miles apart.

When all of LA went to Hell it still resembled Earth but with A LOT of demons because the physical city (buidings, streets) went too. But I am sure that if someone traveled outside of the city while they were all trapped in Hell it would have looked much worse.
 
Interesting theory that i must say never crossed my mind. If i'am honest though i don't think Buffy saving the people from Ken's evil dimension helped Angel escape. I imagine Angel being in a place a lot more horrible then the one reflected in "Anne".
 
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- When Buffy talks to Debbie in the locker room, she is standing in front of a poster that reads "Most girls aren't attracted to dead guys".
LOL Funny!! I've never noticed that before. 🙂
 
I love it when Angel says Buffy's name and falls to his knees hugging her and crying. Tugs at my heartstrings everytime:biggrin3:
 
- Mr. Platt's smoking reinforces the show's clear bias against smoking, as every character in the show who has smoked has been either evil (Spike and Angelus), doomed (Laura in "Nightmares" and the woman who was Angel's first kill after re-losing his soul) or both (Sheila in "School Hard").

That's interesting. I wonder if that's a assumption or if someone who worked on the show actually said that. Kind of ironic, since JM complained about how he started smoking (again?) since they had Spike smoke on the show, and he had to wear lots of patches to try to control the addiction.
 
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- In "Beauty and the Beasts," Giles berates Xander for falling asleep on Oz watch. But when Buffy takes a turn, Giles comes in to find her asleep and says nothing. (What's up with that?)



That's not a goof. Buffy has always been Giles' favorite, and he's always been quite short with Xander. Sometimes he snaps at him for the stupidest things. It's in character.
 
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Anya2012
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That's not a goof. Buffy has always been Giles' favorite, and he's always been quite short with Xander. Sometimes he snaps at him for the stupidest things. It's in character.

True. Also, he probably wouldn't have been as annoyed with Xander if Oz hadn't happened to escape while he was asleep.
 
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I don't know, I just think there's so much- too much- going on in this ep. Too many monsters (thus, the title). And a little too preachy on the domestic violence front. Not one of my favs of season 3. ETA that I do like the Call of the Wild readings, and do like more Oz as werewolf.

I also agree that Buffy saving folks in Ken's hell dimension had nothing to do with Angel coming back from his. I think her comment meant that she remembered how time worked in any kind of other/hell dimension.
 
I don't know, I just think there's so much- too much- going on in this ep. Too many monsters (thus, the title). And a little too preachy on the domestic violence front. Not one of my favs of season 3. ETA that I do like the Call of the Wild readings, and do like more Oz as werewolf.

I also agree that Buffy saving folks in Ken's hell dimension had nothing to do with Angel coming back from his. I think her comment meant that she remembered how time worked in any kind of other/hell dimension.

Really? I think reading Call of the Wild was really good, and it fitted in the episode very well.
 
Really? I think reading Call of the Wild was really good, and it fitted in the episode very well.

Yes, I said that I do like it. 🙂

---------- Post added at 04:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:23 PM ----------

Yes, I said that I do like it. 🙂

5x5 LOL :tongue3:

(God, I'm a newbie, and am I such a geek that I'm ecstatic that I found a place to "say" that without someone looking at me with a hairy eyeball?!)
 
PrincessBuffy16
PrincessBuffy16
Sorry, don't know why I saw the word wasn't, LOL!
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