For me that honour goes to season one but I still really enjoy the first season. I get what you mean about the potentials, Dear God how I wanted to slap kennedy anytime she opened her stupid mouth! but I think we were supposed to not really like them. And the whole lack of trust between the scoobies was something boiling over for 5 seasons and it finally came to a head in 7...i mean Buffy's speech in Selfless shows that there is alot between the scoobs that is neither forgiven nor forgotten.
Best or Worst Season?
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Joyce Summers
Mom of a Chocoholic
Oh tell me about it- I hated Kennedy to. She was so full of herself. She was like Faith...but you know, not likable. hehe. And I totally get what you're saying about things boiling over for five years. I'd never considered that before, but now that I think on that scene from Selfless- yeah, you're right. I mean Buffy never got over Xander's attitude to the whole Angel/Angelus thing where he was pretty much 'you just want to forget all about miss calendar's murder so you can get your boyfriend back'. It was great though where Willow finally find out what he told Buffy you know the whole 'kick his ass'. and in the background of the argument we hear Willow protesting 'I never said that...'
It's one of my favourite Buffy moments, I felt like I had waited forever for it to happen and when it did it was like..FINALLY!!! and I was relieved that Buffy stood up for herself too. I always felt she took so much sh!t from Xander and Willow and in seven she seemed to be like 'F**k this, I'm speaking my mind' which I loved!!
palabravampiress
Bidet of Evil
Season 2? Not the worst. Like a lot of you, I think it had strong foundations in character and theme. It also made great strides toward the season-length narrative arc structure that would define seasons 3 - 5.
Watching BtVS evolve was a lot like watching the evolution of the novel. Buffy season 1 is like like something out of Defoe or Fielding. The characters get up to all sorts of crazy adventures. They're stories, yeah. And they're bound together by character and chronology, yeah. But does that a novel make? Not quite. Our favorite castaway and our favorite scamp have entertaining and sometimes even enlightening adventures that occur in rapid succession, but those adventures lack depth. Chance, more than development, determines the obstacle that will be faced and overcome in the next installment. Buffy season 1 is the same way. It lays the groundwork for meaning, depth, and continuity. It approaches it at a crawl.
Season 2, well, we're getting closer. Season 2 of Buffy is like picking up a novel by Richardson. The disparate elements to which we were introduced in season 1 finally coalesce into an undeniable whole. There's some fat that could be trimmed, yeah, but there's also a recognizable attempt at a coherent beginning, middle, and end. Obstacles begin to be generated from within, not just by chance. Characters mature and develop within their stock roles and a very puritan, Richardsonian worldview. Buffy is the innocent, virtuous and besmirched "Clarissa," whose innate goodness trumps her enemy's evil. Likewise, Angel is the charming trickster, "Lovelace," whose true monstrosity is revealed and must be defeated in a duel. Fortunately, Buffy doesn't die. Just as in Richardson, theme begins to bind things together, albeit in a hit-you-over-the-head sort of way. It's heavy and a little preachy. Good and bad, right and wrong, are clearly delineated. Still, the seeds of something deeper -- something grayer and more complex and true to the human experience -- are there.
Just as the 18th century provided the often-shaky foundation for the form and structure of the novel, seasons 1 and 2 of Buffy helped the show to find its footing and to mature. Beginning with Jane Austen, the 19th century is generally regarded as the "classic" period for the novel. Similarly, the first two seasons propel Buffy into its classic period and then into its gothic period and then into season 7, which, umm, I don't get at all. 🙂
Watching BtVS evolve was a lot like watching the evolution of the novel. Buffy season 1 is like like something out of Defoe or Fielding. The characters get up to all sorts of crazy adventures. They're stories, yeah. And they're bound together by character and chronology, yeah. But does that a novel make? Not quite. Our favorite castaway and our favorite scamp have entertaining and sometimes even enlightening adventures that occur in rapid succession, but those adventures lack depth. Chance, more than development, determines the obstacle that will be faced and overcome in the next installment. Buffy season 1 is the same way. It lays the groundwork for meaning, depth, and continuity. It approaches it at a crawl.
Season 2, well, we're getting closer. Season 2 of Buffy is like picking up a novel by Richardson. The disparate elements to which we were introduced in season 1 finally coalesce into an undeniable whole. There's some fat that could be trimmed, yeah, but there's also a recognizable attempt at a coherent beginning, middle, and end. Obstacles begin to be generated from within, not just by chance. Characters mature and develop within their stock roles and a very puritan, Richardsonian worldview. Buffy is the innocent, virtuous and besmirched "Clarissa," whose innate goodness trumps her enemy's evil. Likewise, Angel is the charming trickster, "Lovelace," whose true monstrosity is revealed and must be defeated in a duel. Fortunately, Buffy doesn't die. Just as in Richardson, theme begins to bind things together, albeit in a hit-you-over-the-head sort of way. It's heavy and a little preachy. Good and bad, right and wrong, are clearly delineated. Still, the seeds of something deeper -- something grayer and more complex and true to the human experience -- are there.
Just as the 18th century provided the often-shaky foundation for the form and structure of the novel, seasons 1 and 2 of Buffy helped the show to find its footing and to mature. Beginning with Jane Austen, the 19th century is generally regarded as the "classic" period for the novel. Similarly, the first two seasons propel Buffy into its classic period and then into its gothic period and then into season 7, which, umm, I don't get at all. 🙂
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pinkpistol
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Season 2 is my favorite season. What's not to like, I even enjoy the cheasy episodes like Go Fish and Bad Eggs, hee.
Worst season would be seven. So many plot holes, and rushy storylines, too much characters we don't care about and not enough Scoobies. What's to love?
Worst season would be seven. So many plot holes, and rushy storylines, too much characters we don't care about and not enough Scoobies. What's to love?
fivebyfiveanyanka
Vengeance Demon
Season 2 is not the worst not the best season IMO but it does have the best villains--Spike and my girl Drusilla 🙂 Season 7 for me is one of the worst seasons overall because of the additional characters yet some of my fave moments are in that season too....
Miss Sunnydale
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I'm going to ruin the whole theme of this thread ... Because I hate Season 2. Not the worst, certainly. Four was definitely the worst. But, I don't know. Season 2 was not my thing. Too many Angel/Buffy dramatics. "I love you, but I can't" pouty pout pout. Don't get me wrong -- Many an episode in Season 2 make me bawl my eyes out ... But, its too mopey for me.
Great arc, I agree ... But, because I really don't care for the whole Buffy and Angel dynamic myself, it was obvious I wasn't going to like it that much.
STILL THOUGH.
Spike and Drusilla in this season??
Amazing.
Great arc, I agree ... But, because I really don't care for the whole Buffy and Angel dynamic myself, it was obvious I wasn't going to like it that much.
STILL THOUGH.
Spike and Drusilla in this season??
Amazing.
BlasterBoy606
Big Damn Hero
Eh, I'm in between. Not the worst season, at all. That goes to Season 1 and 7, for me. Unlike you guys, I thought Season 4 was one of the top 3 seasons :lmao:
Season 2 was really good, imo. I loved the whole arc. The Spike/Dru thing, the way Kendra worked into it all, and Angelus kicked ass. A lot of the arc episodes were just fantastic ("Innocence", "Passion", "Becoming") and there were some stellar fillers ("School Hard", "Lie To Me", "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered"). But, most of the fillers in the first half were very bad and took away from the season ("Some Assembly Required", "Inca Mummy Girl", "Reptile Boy", "The Dark Age", "Ted", "Bad Eggs"). So, I liked it, but the fillers took it away from being in my top 3.
Season 2 was really good, imo. I loved the whole arc. The Spike/Dru thing, the way Kendra worked into it all, and Angelus kicked ass. A lot of the arc episodes were just fantastic ("Innocence", "Passion", "Becoming") and there were some stellar fillers ("School Hard", "Lie To Me", "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered"). But, most of the fillers in the first half were very bad and took away from the season ("Some Assembly Required", "Inca Mummy Girl", "Reptile Boy", "The Dark Age", "Ted", "Bad Eggs"). So, I liked it, but the fillers took it away from being in my top 3.
It's not the worst and not the best, so inbetween for me...
SpikedBuffy
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SpikedBuffy
Love Isn't Brains
Thats how I see them too. I enjoy S2 more, arc wise I think its untouchable but S3 was better ep for ep and the story is was trying to get across.
I loved season 6, but season 3 is right there with it, I might have liked season 2 more then season 3 because of Angelus, but season 3 had such great episode, such as The Wish and The Zeppo, plus brought in Faith's character. So i enjoyed season 3 more then season 2 only for those reasons other wise they were both great seasons.
willow23
Fool for Love
Season 2 is good, and it is definitely not the worst, but it contains some sub-par episodes like Inca Mummy Girl and Killed by Death. The best seasons are 3 and 5, which have the strongest arcs and superior writing. I like season 2 and the finale is probably the most moving of the series, but as a whole it just is not as good as some of the other seasons.
Buffy Summers
Exactly :)
Jaded Wolf
Going all Schoolyard
Season Two was the ultimate season in Buffy. This is where the series took off. First, you had Buffy return after her battle with the Master and she was trying as a teenager dealing with the fact that she did die. Her relationship with Angel was heating up and reached its climax. The arrival of Spike and Drusilla was like watching those old biker movies when the bad boys ride into a biker bar and tear up the place. That's exactly what Spike did when he came into the vampire den and took over. Spike killing the Chosen One was such a nice if not barbaric touch but it let us know Spike was a vicious S.O.B.
Then there was Angel. OMGoodness was this such a great season for him. Angel knows the curse but instead gives into temptation and sleeps with Buffy. Then he turns evil and just like that *poof* he's got Buffy crying. David Boreanaz's true acting skills came out here. His slick evil turn after playing the first season as the loner good guy was brilliant. Then there was "Passion", the episode that defined the whole season 2 arc. I loved Angel's poetic narration of the whole episode and the creepiness of him stalking Buffy and Willow after they found out Jenny was killed. This one show had it all and I still get chills watching it.
Season two offered so many other great episodes and delved into the psychology of good vs evil and the consequences of falling into your lust. Just a great season. This was definetely the best season of all.
Then there was Angel. OMGoodness was this such a great season for him. Angel knows the curse but instead gives into temptation and sleeps with Buffy. Then he turns evil and just like that *poof* he's got Buffy crying. David Boreanaz's true acting skills came out here. His slick evil turn after playing the first season as the loner good guy was brilliant. Then there was "Passion", the episode that defined the whole season 2 arc. I loved Angel's poetic narration of the whole episode and the creepiness of him stalking Buffy and Willow after they found out Jenny was killed. This one show had it all and I still get chills watching it.
Season two offered so many other great episodes and delved into the psychology of good vs evil and the consequences of falling into your lust. Just a great season. This was definetely the best season of all.
Randy Giles
Two sides to every soul.
Season two is good. However, far from the best.
A lot of fans say it's the "definitive" season of Buffy and is the best example of what the show is, but how is that? Each season pretty much changes the show, has a different tone and theme, etc. It was different every single year.
Season two has a ton of subpar episodes, however it develops the characters nicely and sets up the rest of the series, and has a pretty good arc, but it is not nearly as good or enjoyable for me as seasons 3, 6, and 7, which are in my opinion the strongest seasons of the series.
A lot of fans say it's the "definitive" season of Buffy and is the best example of what the show is, but how is that? Each season pretty much changes the show, has a different tone and theme, etc. It was different every single year.
Season two has a ton of subpar episodes, however it develops the characters nicely and sets up the rest of the series, and has a pretty good arc, but it is not nearly as good or enjoyable for me as seasons 3, 6, and 7, which are in my opinion the strongest seasons of the series.
Season 2 is my joint favorite season with season 3. I love the story's in it. The fights between Buffy/Angel. The introduction of Kendra and the relationship of Xander and Cordy. It definitely isn't the worst season!!