Best season for TV shows. Usually in the middle?

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A friend and I were discussing the best seasons of some of the shows we enjoy. And we noticed that for shows of 5 seasons or longer, the best season usually hits that sweet spot in/near the middle. So for a five season show seasons 2, 3, or 4. For a seven season show 3, 4, or 5, and so on.

Angel: Season 2
Buffy: Season 3
Babylon 5: Season 3
Star Trek TNG, Deep Space 9 AND Voyager: Season 4
Stargate SG-1: Season 4

Exceptions:
X-Files: Comes close since 4 is very good, but Season 3.
Game of Thrones: Season 2
Castle: Season 2

So, what would you say the best seasons are of given shows. Let's keep it to shows of 5 seasons or more. Feel free to share your thoughts!
 
For Buffy S2 closely followed by s5
Angel the same, s2, followed by s5

Agents of Shield s2
Supernatural s4, s11
The 100 s3/4

I cant remember which seasons are which of many other shows because I havent been as engrossed in them as I was with Buffy and if I have binged them, its all a blur!

I find a lot of shows fall off a cliff after s5. Season 6 is a low point for a number of shows I have seen. Some pick up, other do not.
 
As a general rule, I'd say seasons 2-5 are the sweet spot (not counting kid shows, though sometimes it's true even then). That could be one to all of the seasons in that zone. (Also generally speaking, I think this is true of many book series as well.)

But there are exceptions. I say ST: NG was best in season 6, but 4-6 are its sweet spot. (And the last season, despite slipping badly, was still better than the first 3.) I think ST: NG could've had a better s7, but they made some quick changes on the fly to be compatible with the movie. Or something along those lines.

While it's been a long time since I saw DS9, I think the last half was good (more often than not) in the last half to the end. In contrast, I'm only generally fond of the first 2 seasons of ST: TOS (can't remember how many seasons it had--I'm skipping other shows that were exceptions because they were under 5 seasons, and I've gotten tired of looking up info on shows because of the glut of remakes and imitations that I have to sort through to find what I'm looking for, I'm starting to wish there was a law against calling a series or movie the same title as the one it claims to be a reboot of).

Clone Wars got better with each one. I think the final would've been the best had Disney not stepped in, with their best material being released in book and comic form before the last season was greenlit (years later) and needed new material.

Once Upon A Time was my favorite for 1 season and a half (maybe 2 and a half). Then it just got worse and worse. I'd loved it before that I TRIED to get back into it, but at some point I had to give it up. It had become too unwatchable for me. I think they told the story they needed, and then continued on (careless of wild retcons) to beat more money out of it.


There were a couple that I might've saw differently had I approached them at different points in my life. I greatly enjoy, and sometimes rewatch, the first 2 seasons of Xena, but I prefer to avoid the drama and bickering of later seasons. I mainly wanted a fun show there not to take seriously, kind of a kids show in a way. Maybe if I had a lot more spare time I'd have allowed myself to get into the later seasons, but as it was, I've sampled later seasons and generally did not care for it.

Similar, but not the same, for The Walking Dead. The first held me in its icy grip, but after that I just lost interest. But part of that was because it was becoming more of a soap opera with a back drop of zombies, at least it felt that way to me, but I missed too many eps which left me feeling lost on the later eps I got to see. Some arcs sound good, but I just couldn't get into it. Doesn't mean I wouldn't if I watched in chronological order, and maybe my answer would be different if I had. But I have too many other things I want to see (and read) to force myself to do that. I feel no obligation to watch something just because everyone else is.

Again, these are the exceptions to the rule. I think most with more than 5 seasons are best between or through 2-5

(Buffy is close enough to this though not in the specific zone, and Angel is too much of a mixed bag--I liked the idea one had of dividing the seasons into halves to measure them by rather than as a whole--for me to say what I feel about the various seasons of that show.)
 
....Similar, but not the same, for The Walking Dead. The first held me in its icy grip, but after that I just lost interest. But part of that was because it was becoming more of a soap opera with a back drop of zombies, at least it felt that way to me,...
You've also described the problem with most of the CW shows as well, which is why I'd say their best seasons tend to be early. . I'll say that there's no problem with having ongoing character issues with the "premise" actually being more of the background. The Netflix Marvel series (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage) actually did that pretty well.

The problem is when they can't figure out new ways to create tension so they rinse and repeat.

Arrow: Oliver will lie to someone, bad things happen, he promises to not lie anymore. Then promptly starts lying again.

Supernatural: Sam and or Dean will make a big sacrifice, die, come back to life, and they agree not to do it again. Then the other one does it.

Relationships never really evolve on those shows.
 
Buffy - Season 2
Angel - Season 5

Walking Dead - Season 6
Fear The Walking Dead - Season 3
Doctor Who - Season 5
Torchwood - Season 1
The 100 - Season 3
Battlestar Galactica - Season 2
 
Buffy, I like seasons 3-5 best. 3 for the arc and individual episodes, 4 for lots of individual episodes though not so much the arc and 5 the arc. However, by 5 you could see the show was starting to take itself too seriously, and it just got worse from then. Angel, seasons 1 and 2. Starting in 3, it also started to take itself too seriously, though this was more gradual than Buffy, which just plummeted. Probably because by the sounds of it, Buffy had a plan for seasons 1-5, and didn't have one for anything after.

Usually, season 1 tends to be the season where a show is finding its way. Later, if a show is renewed just to make more money, and not because there was a plan, they lose their way in later seasons.
 
The Simpsons peaked imo around Seasons 6-7. They had an early peak with Seasons 3-4, a comfortable plateau for 5 and 6, before kicking things up a notch to the highest gear around Season 7 and 8. By 9 it was still great but it was clear they were starting to run out of steam. 10 and 11 tried to fill the void with as many celebrity guest stars as possible in lieu of plot, and 12 is the last season considered "good" or "classic Simpsons," although the relatively much worse 13-18 are still watchable. Anything after the movie is just...just don't.
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I would say most long-running shows don't have a single best season. Especially if it's been going a long time, it's more likely to have a one off bad season near the end, like the X-Files' last season.

They often start out good and get even better as things progress, but I don't think that makes the beginning seasons bad in any way.
 
I think that's true, the only exception I can think of is Riverdale because the last season, season 7, is airing now and it's the best.
 
True for many shows, I'd say.

Dexter, anyone? Friends, Seinfeld went over by 2 seasons. True Blood? Overstayed its welcome by a lot.

In most cases, it's better to leave the party early, rather than overstay the welcome. And it can be for a number of reasons, like:

-If the show is based on books and they steer away from the material
-Money talking so an original plan of making a series run for 5 seasons gets swept aside
-The writers completely veering off course

And so on..
 
I would say that most shows that have 4+ seasons usually seem to hit their stride by season 3, but obviously this is very subjective and depends on the show itself/how it was aired.
 
I'm not sure if that's true. I disagree about Game of Thrones, I think there's good seasons early on and later on, except the last season. I think The Flash's best seasons are 1-4. Once Upon A Time lost steam around the middle seasons, in my opinion.
 
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