Blood Sucking Heroes

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With the flood of heroic or "good guy" vampires and werewolves in every media, it just got me to thinking about the horror movies of a few decades ago and beyond, which leads me to this question.

Do you prefer your vampires/werewolves/demons portrayed generally as heroes or monsters?
 
That is a very good question. I enjoy seeing both. The monster vampires I like that can be a example are Spike and Damon. They are monsters yet they have compassion. I like a little of both mixed in there.
If they are just full on one or the other they lack development so I would not like for one to just be a monster or a hero.
Angel is a hero type but he goes up and down which makes it more interesting.
 
Well, I just can't decide. I'm really not into Twilight stuff, because everyone likes it, or better to say, they're crazy about it, so even the books who are not that bad lost their meaning to me.
In one hand, there's something hot when you see bad vampire on screen. He doesn't have to be hot in the way that he looks good, but being bad makes him hot.
But in other hand, it's always interesting to see them in much deeper level, with their own history and troubles.
So I really can't decide. I love them both. And it all depends on a character. Maybe mix of both..
 
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I don't really care, as long as they're written well. I think I like them ambiguous most of all - like they can't be truly human, they're not truly dead nor truly alive, likewise they can't be truly good or truly evil. The Buffyverse did this quite well, with 4 of the 5 main vampire characters being both good and evil at some point. I think Being Human does vampires quite well too. The show portrays killing/blood-sucking as like an addiction that can be fought. The main vampire character has chosen to fight this addiction and go clean, but has a permanent urge to kill and drink blood, and relapses many times.

I don't like it when vampires are overly romanticised. There should always be ambiguity, darkness and danger there - not danger in a sexy way, but an acknowledgement pf what a vampire really is - an animated corpse that would very much like to suck your blood.
 
I prefer them to be evil, or at the very least morally ambiguous. I don't really have a problem with good vampires but I think they work better as evil. They are bloodsuckers after all.
 
Good guy vamps are done well on Buffy, but that being said, that trend shouldn't continue.

Why not? Another show could do it a lot better in the future.

It doesn't really bother me. If it works and is written well, I'm going to enjoy it either way. I think it can be much more interesting to present the audience with moral ambiguity because it irks them a bit more too. He's not a werewolf or a vampire, but Dexter is this sort of character I find and it's really fascinating.
 
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Marisa
Agree with you about Dexter very good point.
What I like is characters who have a benevolent facade but in their heart are just truly evil. I mean like The Mayor with his little eccentricities and his feelings for Faith, or S2 Spike and Drusilla, in their love and support for each other. It doesn't 'soften' the characters or diminish their cold-bloodedness, just gives them roundedness. That's cooler for me than either one-dimensional evil or one-dimensional 'good'.
 
I can enjoy both, hero and monster, but I tend to stay away from the cuddly-never-hurt-anyone vampire (Edward from Twilight) and the creep-being-stalkery-yet-treated-like-boyfriend-material vampire (Jean Luc from the Anita Blake books, at least in the 4 I've read). They just don't interest me (okay, the creep kind is okay for kinky fantasies, but when I'm not in a Harlequin mood, I stay away from them).

The Buffy vampires are my favorites so far, because you've got your evil yet realistic vampires (Angelus) and the murderer/lover/comedian kind, and the sleezy kind (Dracula, which isn't originally from Buffy, but still).

I like the idea of vampires with a urges that make them different, I don't want them to be hummans with pale reflections, but I also don't enjoy the vampires that act like unintelligent blood thirsty animals.

I like that the Buffyverse has vampires who seems to have given into the dark side, and some who are evil but have gray-ish qualities (Spike feels love and Harmony wants friends/to be respected).
 
Interesting question. I'm personally really tired of the archtype of a good vampire. He's broody and lonesome, he always makes the choice not to drink blood because he doesn't want to be a monster, and there's self-hatred mixed in there because he despises that he has to kill to live. It's an interesting story and there's a lot of room for development in there, but it gets stale after awhile. On the other hand, a main character who is a vampire cannot remain evil indefinitely. If he's not the villain, he's going to have to develop, and more than likely that means he's going to start feeling emotion and compassion. That's what the viewers relate to, and that's what fans of the character (who like him as a character and not a villain) are going to want.

I'd say for me, I like a little (or a lot) of bad. I liked Spike much more than Angel simply because I thought he was more interesting. He completely embraced his dark side for a hundred years, but he also developed and began feeling things. I thought that rendering a creature who was essentially addicted to violence completely incapable of committing it was a really interesting way to change him, rather than just the usual guilt. Take away the evil, and you see what you get. I haven't watched much of Vampire Diaries, but I think Damon's very much like Spike and Stephan's very much like Angel. Naturally, I like Damon more.

It's actually funny to me, because I've heard numerous people say that Spike's plotline and development were derivative. To me, Angel is the much more stereotypical, derivative vampire journey.
 
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