Buffy 2;06 HALLOWEEN

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Halloween

The Good;
Pretty much everything, great ep, love the alternate Scoobies, the Xena ref, the first appearance of Ethan and Ripper, the fight in the pumpkin stall at the beginning, Dru and Spike back, Oz, Larry, Cordy in her pussycat costume, Willow getting 'Sexy and Wild' (love her strutting at the end, do you think she got any offers?) the list goes on. Buffy unknowingly impersonating Darla and fainting (but at least she doesn't get tied up) and clinging onto Cordy's arm

The Bad;
Open to suggestions?

Best line;
Hard to pick but I'd say;
Willow "She couldn't have gone as Xena?
Just pipping Giles' "The ghost of what exactly?" upon seeing Will's streetwalker outft and "You went mental when?" from Cordy

Questions and observations:
Willow appears to be a Xena fan. Hmmmmm? Of course Xena started a couple of years before Buff and without it I don't think we'd have had Buffy. In one ep they refer to the play Buffus the Bachae Slayer. You could say that Spike's fascination with Buffy is evident in his watching the video of her fighting. Love Willow walking through the wall and people's reaction to it. The long tracking shot of Xander transforming into Rambo. Where are Joyce and Dawn during all of this? Either he reloads offscreen or Xander's rifle has a limitless magazine. Another hint of attraction between Cordy and soldier Xander. Angel wears a blue shirt which is ok but not really him. The Summers house get's trashed for the first time. How does the vamp Angel fights in the kitchen get in without being invited? First appearance of SDH's famous soda machine. Buffy get's sexually assaulted AGAIN, mauled by Pirate Larry (who really musn't be himself considering what we learn later). We discover that Cordy doesn't know Angel is a vamp. Xander tells Cordy she'll never get between Buffy and Angel, well almost. Giles tortures Ethan for info, the Scoobies really seem to have a knack for it.

10/10 afters a couple of false starts season 2 firing on all cylinders
 
How does the vamp Angel fights in the kitchen get in without being invited?

This bugged me, too--the only explanation I have (and it's not very satisfying) is that the transformations are not real--the vamp in the kitchen would be a costumed human under a spell, but not a real vampire at his core. Therefore, he didn't need inviting.
 
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InsaneMystic
that's the explanation in my head, too ^^
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BleedMe
Maybe he went to the high school and had been Buffy's friend or study partner for a project.. or something. lol. Not saying this is what I think, just throwing out some options
How does the vamp Angel fights in the kitchen get in without being invited?

This bugged me, too--the only explanation I have (and it's not very satisfying) is that the transformations are not real--the vamp in the kitchen would be a costumed human under a spell, but not a real vampire at his core. Therefore, he didn't need inviting.

Works for me! I figure if they were a transformed human the rules wouldn't apply
 
yeah thats like the one thing that bothers me too.
but i suppose that logic would work 🙂
i wonder when Xander had his gun and went to fire at those kids who were turned into vampires if he ended up shooting them and then when they turned back into kids if they would be dead ?
 
I want to say yes, they'd probably still be dead.. but that wouldn't make sense, because Willow "died" and turned into a ghost and when the spell was broken, she was alive and kickin again. So.. I guess I'll say no, even though I have a hard time imagining a kid who had been shot in the back by a machine gun getting up and walking away.
 
Great observation about that vamp. I didn't even notice that. I didn't even know that scary guy in the alley was Larry in the first times I watch till one day I noticed he's a pirate. 🙂

One of epic episodes that you can watch with anyone that don't even know BtVS, along with Doppelgangland. 😀 It's also the best Halloween episode in BtVS, IMO.
 
For me, Halloween is one of those episodes that made me realise just how great a show Buffy was and marks the first time the series really started to have fun with its format and characters, there is so much to love here.

Tough Guy Xander.
Damsel in distress Buffy.
Buffy handing Angel a steak (love that moment).
Giles showing his dark side for the first time.

Personally, I think it's a series highlight.
 
I want to say yes, they'd probably still be dead.. but that wouldn't make sense, because Willow "died" and turned into a ghost and when the spell was broken, she was alive and kickin again. So.. I guess I'll say no, even though I have a hard time imagining a kid who had been shot in the back by a machine gun getting up and walking away.
I think Ghost!Willow was a special case, because to be a ghost, you're supposed to die first, right? (But then again, so would you for being a vampire... meh. There goes a nice theory.)
 
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