Buffy ep by ep; HELPLESS

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Helpless

The Good;
Fabulous ep, really pulls the rug out from under you and puts Buffy in serious peril, very scary. Lovely Amy ref, love the final scene and Joyce's pride at Buffy's cleverness.

The Bad;
The whole idea of the Cruciantanem is stupid. If the Slayer isn't up to the job then surely she just dies anyway and they get a new one? Surely Buffy would go to her friends for help? How does Kralik know that Buffy is aware where to come to when he send her his invitation? Wouldn't it be better for the Council to have Wes standing by to relieve Giles rather than leave it a fortnight? Willow's mustard yellow tights are awful, I think Tara threw them out as we don't see them past season 3. .

Best line;
No contest "Bite me!" but I do also like the Buffy/Angel exchange;
Buffy; "That's beautiful...or taken literally really gross"
Angel; "I was just thinking"

Wheldon Cliches;

Character death; 2 humans and 2 vamps

Shot;

Tied up; Joyce

Knocked out;
No but Buffy mesmerised

Women good/men bad;
Lots of it. Buffy is let down by her father and betrayed by her father figure (the scene where she dumps her father's present in the bin is particulary heartrending). Kralik killed and ate his own mother (hopefully after he became a vampire?) Kralik menacing Joyce is very scary and his idea of turning Buffy even more so (although would even a sired Slayer be evil?).

Kinky dinky;
How long have you got? Buffy and Angel 'getting all sweaty' as Xander would say. Buffy refers to dating an older man who likes it when she calls him daddy, probably her father but Angel would like to be sure. I must say I missed the whole 'phallic crystal fondling' first time around, David Fury had to point it out to me.You could even say that the whole Giles' drugs Buffy routine is tantamount to child abuse, he dopes her then penetrates her with the needle. Kralik meanwhile actually seems to like pain from Buffy burning him with the cross

Calling Captain Subtext;
If there were ever an ep where Cordy and Buffy were to get together this is it. Note Cordy's outraged pounding of the guy who pushes Buffy and her leaving Buff home.

Guantanamo Bay;
The Watcher's Council show their true colours and they're pretty damn ruthless

Scoobies to the ER;
Going to start a new topic because in virtually every ep one or more requires hospital treatment;
Buffy pretty banged up and without Slayer healing for once

Where's Dawn?
Still at the house when Kralik snatches Joyce? At Kit's? Girl Scouts? After school classes? Or taken hostage with her mother?

Questions and observations
Interesting to hear David Fury's initial story idea, that Buffy hallucinates the Scoobies and Joyce as vamps. Nice to hear he was a fan before he got to write it. I also heard they couldn't do it because Kristine Sutherland was allergic to the vamp makeup. No Faith this ep? A shame, liked to have seen her. Presumably Kralik's pills are for mental illness rather than for anything physical which would have been cured when he became a vamp like Spike's mum/Darla. The guy he turns is one of the crew from ST;ENTERPRISE. You always knew Buffy would beat him but her method is very ingenious (after all, Little Red Riding Hood defeats the big bad wolf). Presumably more time elapses between Buffy trying to untie Joyce and him breaking through the door than is shown onsecreen. Remember Buffy hasn't even seen Kralik wash down the pills so Joyce must have told her. Personally I always liked the eaten-away-from-within effect and it was always obvious to me. Cordy's paper is on Bosnia which dates this ep pretty accurately (nowadays kids would be writing about Darfur).

8/10, very, very good, almost a classic
 
Oh Buffy's 18 birthday, and she felt like she turned 40. Sad really. But I do love when Angel tells her he saw her before she became the slayer. That's nice. And always sign on the book he gives her. And about Dawn, that's intersting. When she came they got all this memories, but we still have this hole because of the first 4 seasons.
 
I adore this episode. The first time that the subcontext of Giles as Buffy's father figure becomes text. I feel both Buffy and Giles' pain in this episode, he clearly felt SO awful doing what he had to do.

I love the Buffy/Angel scenes in this episode. The subtlety of his present to her is beautiful.
 
PrincessBuffy16
PrincessBuffy16
Always :)
I LOVE this episode!!!Despite the fact i hate seeing Buffy scared and powerless...and i really wanted to stake the vamps who attacked her...man!She kicks ASS slayer or no-slayer!But i felt sorry that all the bad incidents in her life take part in her b-day...she is gonna get a psychological trauma!Last year it was Angel turning evil and the Judge...now it's Giles depowering her...i must say though I felt a little sorry for Giles in the end...he really loves Buffy,and he is a better father for her than her biological father is...

The dialogues between Angel and Buffy were wonderful and so sweet!!!It shows that Angel loved her just the way she is...before she was called...he loved her cause he would see her heart!What a sensitive man he is...i love him!I like the fact that he wanted to be with her because he saw the real Buffy!

Sometimes during the episode i would like Buffy to call Angel or faith for help...or maybe both!But she proved she is more than worthy!She can use her brains and rock!!!

amazing episode!
 
Yeah would have been nice to see Faith's reaction to the idea of her being the only Slayer? I'm also suprised that no one wondered that it was Faith's existence that might be draining the power from Buffy
 
Also i forgot to add: the first minutes of the episode with Angel and Buffy training...well i guess all Bangelers really felt good for the couple...it is obvious...they love each other,the sexual tension is in the air and you can cut it with a knife!(go LORNE!)
 
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ubi4soft
It was the same when Angel trained Cordelia
As Spike says, they can never just be friends, there will always be the sexual tension between them
 
As Spike says, they can never just be friends, there will always be the sexual tension between them

Well that is good. They are friends. They can tell each other everything. Like he said in The Earshot, she doesn't have to play games with him. They belive each other, she feels safe with him, they are friends.. but when night falls down, and when all dors closes, they are much much more. And that is beautiful.
 
The irony of course that their desire for one another is the reason they can never be together
 
I understand what Spike says...but the truth is they are friends,they do trust each other...but the thing is...they will ALWAYS want more...they can talk and talk all the time...and sometimes i get the feeling that only Angel truly understands Buffy and her destiny(in I only have eyes for you Buffy even says to Angelus that he is the only one who understands,because Angel knows her so well)...but they love each other and the tension will always be there...friends or no friends!

and again i agree with PrincessB!!!
 
This is one of the best episodes of season three.


Jeff Kober was excellent as the villian stalking Buffy.

SMG totally sold the idea of Buffy losing her Slayer powers.

Especially the scene when she 1st realizes they're gone.
 
I actually found this episode to be extremely annoying.

Before this, Buffy spent every second of her Slayer life whining about how she wished she wasn't a slayer, hated her calling, would do anything to be a "Normal girl", etc.

So, someone obliges to her cries, and takes her powers away. What does she do? Oh, she starts whining about betrayal, and how could anyone do this to me, I'm nothing without my powers, I MUST be the slayer, blah blah blah. And right after she gets her power back, she goes right back to whining and complaining about how much she hates slaying. She's SO annoying! 😀

Although Giles sticking needles into her is immeasurably creepy, just sayin'. 😀

Also, I think that she was TOO weak, like, weirdly weak. She had worked out as a Slayer for three years, any normal person would've gained a reasonable amount of muscle from that. Dawn, Cordy, Giles, Wes, Gunn, Willow, Xander, and Fred were all very capable demon fighters, and none of them have, or have ever had powers. Why should Buffy be any different? Who knows, maybe because the needle hurt her muscles too much, but still. Dawn of that age could've beaten her up. 😀

Still, it was nice to see Buffy taken down a notch or two. 🙂
 
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Eleftheria
I think it's because of the substances Giles gave to her...they made her really weak. And besides a normal Buffy is so petite and girly:) I don't think she can kick ass like she used to
To me the intention behind the test seemed to be to kill off Buffy. From the councils perspective it must be a nightmare to control a Slayer that gets experienced. Their only chance to stay in control must be if the slayer really needs the watchers experience.

The really weird thing though is why Buffy would ever trust the Council again. That just doesn't make sense.
 
To me the intention behind the test seemed to be to kill off Buffy. From the councils perspective it must be a nightmare to control a Slayer that gets experienced. Their only chance to stay in control must be if the slayer really needs the watchers experience.

The really weird thing though is why Buffy would ever trust the Council again. That just doesn't make sense.

I think there'd have been easier ways if they wanted her dead. I think it was genuine, to help the Slayer develop, survival of the fittest. Interestingly in season 7 Buffy and Spike give the Potentials their own mini-version of the Cruciantenam for the same reasons
 
Well they'd have to kill the Slayer while still pretending to be the good guys.....

They don't kill her, they put her in danger but then she's in danger every night. I don't buy the 'council wanted to get rid of Buffy' angle as this happens to every slayer on her 18th birthday. It's an exercise in tough (and possibly fatal!) love but I don't see anything more behind it. And in his own way Travers actually really likes Buffy
 
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