Buffy ep by ep; SUPRISE!!!!!!!!!

saturn5

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Suprise

The Good;
Everything! Buffy's opening dream is superb. The fight, the Judge, Dru and Spike and THAT ending! Also the clever way you think Jenny is leading Buffy astray but is actually just leading her to the party. Love Oz's reaction to discovering the truth about Sunnydale

The Bad;
Are you crazy, this is Buffy at it's best!

Best line;
Dru; (after the Judge burns Dalton) "Do it again! Do it again!"

Questions and observations;
Xander mentions giving Buffy a 'pre-birthday spanking', a display of kinkiness that will become apparent in all the Scoobies to a greater and lesser degree over the course of the series. Jenny back in the gang but with her true self revealed, all the Scoobies keeping secrets over the years. Buffy loses her virginity, as the age of consent in California is 18 this is technically statuatory rape. Oz refers to past groupies although he doesn't have any now
Spike in a wheelchair, he seems reluctant to release the Judge, again showing his more human side. The Judge senses it, commenting that Spike and Dru share jealousy and affection (love Spike's confrontation with him "Yeah, what of it mate!?" as though the judge has spilled his pint or something). Dalton also seems to have retained some humanity (enough for the Judge to burn him), perhaps because he was sired by Dru or Spike? The fact that reading is considered sufficently un-demon like behaviour to warrant a fiery death speaks volumes as to why humanity rules the Earth and demons don't any more. Dru hates the flowers, I thought roses were supposed to repel vamps anyway? Brian Thompson back again and the wonderful Vincent Schavelli.
Why not just sink the Judge's arm into the Pacific? Why does Dalton still need his glasses, surely as a vamp his eyes would have healed up like Darla's heart condition and Spike's mum's tuberculosis? Maybe they're just for effect? Small point that Xander says "Hello mom" on the phone and then still needs to say "It's Xander". Does he have siblings or is she just too drunk to understand what he said?

10/10 and more!
 
Love this episode. It's big turning point for Bangel and for show itself. I love this episode so much, especially the end, and I like Buffy's B-day party 🙂
Haha yeah Oz's reaction was pretty funny and Dru's "Do it again!" always makes me laugh.
 
This is most definitely one of my top three favourite episodes, as a two parter!

Absolutely Buffy at it's best, like you said. You get everything that made Buffy amazing in this episode. I actually struggle to say how I feel about this episode a lot of the time. I should think about that!

Grr, Dru's 'do it again, do it again' is quite possibly one of the scenes I find the most irritating to watch. She's like a psychotic, annoying teletubby when she says it. Argh, I really hate that line and it sums up why she annoys me so much. That, and her little hissy fit about 'it being all wrong' and those stupid noises she makes. Grr. Anyway...

Awesome episode. I want to watch it now!
 
PrincessBuffy16
PrincessBuffy16
I am watching it now :)
So I finally got round to watching this again. Still as awesome as I remember, and I'd forgotten some of things I love about it.

I adore how Angel is part of the Scoobies and is at the party, not to mention the one who's getting the most antsy out of all of them, and that he's part of the research group in the library.

Plus two of my favourite comedy moments in the whole serious. When Oz tells Willow he's going to ask her out and she says she'll say yes and then when he asks she's like 'ack, no!' always makes me smile. And when Angel says about Buffy not sleeping well and she's been tossing and turning and everyone looks at him and he goes 'she TOLD me'! love it.

I kind of don't want to watch Innocence now, I'm on a happy!
 
So I finally got round to watching this again. Still as awesome as I remember, and I'd forgotten some of things I love about it.

I adore how Angel is part of the Scoobies and is at the party, not to mention the one who's getting the most antsy out of all of them, and that he's part of the research group in the library.

Plus two of my favourite comedy moments in the whole serious. When Oz tells Willow he's going to ask her out and she says she'll say yes and then when he asks she's like 'ack, no!' always makes me smile. And when Angel says about Buffy not sleeping well and she's been tossing and turning and everyone looks at him and he goes 'she TOLD me'! love it.

I kind of don't want to watch Innocence now, I'm on a happy!

This is the Jossverse, no one can stay too happy for too long unless they're a doll. Personally I love Dru's Kate Bush act, I actually prefer Innocence for rocket launchers and Buffy/Joyce love on the sofa alone
 
Surprise is one of the best episodes of Season 2 and of course it determined Buffy and Angel's destiny as a couple!First scene of Buffy having that dream is so great!
Touching scene where Angel gives Buffy the Claddagh ring...when i was watching that i felt like they were getting engaged or sth...🙂

I loved the "I love you...i try not to but can't stop"(correct me if i'm wrong i think that was the line) and how gently he touches her in his bedroom while he is checking her small wound!Like he is afraid to touch her more...he doesn't want to put pressure on her...Angel is a gentleman!

But i understand a few things about Joss(and i haven't completed Buffy season 3 yet)...he doesn't like to see couples happy...i mean Angel and Buffy finally consumate their love which is the ultimate happiness for people who are in love...and BOOM!!!Angelus is back!!!damn it!
 
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