Buffy ep by ep; THIS YEARS GIRL-here's Faithy!

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Calm down MinwaraYana!

THIS YEAR'S GIRL

The Good;
Faith's dream sequences are all excellent, wonderful to see Harry Groener again, love the reveal of Faith at UCSD and great scenes with Joyce/Faith, the fight that follows one of the best in the show's history

The Bad;
Are you kidding, Faith is back, how could anything be bad?

Best line;
Faith; How do I look?
Joyce; Psychotic?

Wheldon Cliches;

Character death;
Thankfully not

Shot;

Tied up;

Knocked out;
Buffy-as-Faith in the final scene plus the poor girl at the hospital

Women good/men bad;
Nope, female villain this time around

Jeez!;
Psycho-Buffy in Faith's dreams is scary indeed, great performance from SMG, love her vacant stare, steady walk and that little tilt of the head, give her a hockey mask and she's the villain in the slasher film. Check out Buffy's expression as she twists the knife in Faith's side. Plus Faith hits Joyce! Oh, that girl deserves SUCH a spanking! Plus Adam's Silence of the Lambs homage.

Kinky dinky;
As Petrie comments, 'Cleavage, demons and intrigue'. Faith also tells Buffy she has dreams about 'cigars and tunnels', Bill Clinton and Monica anyone? (a reference that would have been a lot more topical at the time). Willow refers to Faith as a 'cleavagey slutbomb'.

Calling Captain Subtext;
The grass snake intruding in the picnic needs no interpretation. It represents the Mayor's evil desires intruding on his and Faith's happiness. Doug Petrie comments on Jaith and I think he's right, actually Joyce and Faith love each other much the same as Buffy/Faith do. I remember reading a great fanfic where Joyce is lying in bed feeling guilty about having sex with the naked Slayer lying beside her who calls her 'mommy'. Of course in the very last word of the story you realise that it's actually Faith rather than Buffy and it all makes perfect sense from both a narrative and character point of view. Forbidden, a Buffy: The Vampire Slayer fanfic - FanFiction.Net
Buffy and Faith in dreams are still making the bed, Faith pleads for Buffy to take the knife out of her, does this signify a yearning for forgiveness?

Guantanamo Bay;

Scoobies to the ER;
Buffy-as-Faith get's a hammering (one could argue that this is actually Faith self-harming?)

Where's Dawn?
Taken hostage by Faith alongside Joyce? It would certainly explain Dawn's antipathy towards her in season 7. Faith refers to 'Little sis coming'. Of course Dawn could just as easily have been Faith's sister if things had worked out differently.

Missing scenes;
The bit where Tara and Willow search for Faith is quite obviously an add in but is funny, especially Tara's idea of fighting.

Apocalypses; 5,

Questions and observations;
Wonderful to have Faith back. You can't help but feel sorry for her when she's wandering the streets of Sunnydale having lost everything, ecspecially when she sees the happy daughter leading her father by the hand. One question, looking at the Mayor's video he seems to think that there will be a museum dedicated to him in Sunnydale and that he and Faith will bring 'order' to the town? By being a big snake?
I always wondered what would happen if a Slayer was brainsucked by Glory? Read a fanfic once where that actually happens to Faith but then DarkWillow brainsucks Warren before killing him and uses his mental energy to cure her. Watching this I realise that if Slayer healing can restore Faith from her coma then Glory would be no big deal for her or Buffy. Tara asks what 'Five by five' means, about time someone did. Who calls the police for Faith at UCSD?

Marks out of 10; 9/10
 
BuffyElevated
BuffyElevated
LMFAO @ the first line of this post!!!!
I never liked Faith that much until psychotic Faith showed up. I really like her 😀

And I totally agree with you about the best quote. I just love that scene. And when Buffy comes through the window 🙂

And SMG was really great like Faith. She really showed her acting skills. This is just one more proove why they shouldn't make Buffy movie without original cast 🙂

10/10
 
My 2nd favourite episode after Hush. Love it all. Except for the part of Faith hurting Joyce.

Thought: If Joyce's bedroom is in on the second floor, how did Faith crash through the window?? Rooftop?
 
I'm here!! 😀

First off, welcome back Faithy. :yay: I had waited for a long time for this episode when I watched S4 for the first time. I knew that some day she's gonna wake up. 😀

I love the making bed scene. They're like a couple there. I always believe that Faith has a thing for Buffy, but she doesn't admit it. 🙂

The scene when Faith watched the tape that The Mayor sent her was touching. The expression on their face was truly sad. Especially when The Mayor says things like "There's no place in this world for you anymore, but you still have me".

Lol, you're so right. Buffy in the dream was like Jason. And Faith in sweet dress was WOW. It's like they wanted to show us how she's the weaker girl in the dream.

I like Joyce. She's so calm. Even Faith did bad things to her, she understood and never truly hated her. I'd love see the scene when Faith found out that Joyce is dead. I think she knew, but we never got to see her reaction on the show.

Umm, here comes The Counselors. I hate them so much, especially Wetherby guy.

The fight scene didn't impress me except the last punch. I mean, it's more fun when they wanted to fight to death like in Graduation. This one was more like teasing/cat fight.

I give it 9.8/10 😛
 
I've just watched it a few minutes ago.

I just think it's weird that when someone called to Giles's house to tell the news about Faith waking up. Why didn't they tell Giles first? Why did they need Buffy on the phone? But it's good to hear that Buffy thought Faith might be lost/has amnesia/feels guilty. That's very sweet of her. (sw) I think she felt guilty that she put her in coma.
 
I love me some Faith! So glad to have her back. I thought it was kind of heartbreaking; I always interpreted her attack on Joyce being a sign of her wanting a mother figure and being jealous that Buffy has one.

Willow and Tara out and searching was really cute, I thought! And I think this is the first time we really get to hear a rant about Faith from Willow. She makes a couple of comments, but this is the first time she complained extensively, I think. I thought that was cool.

8.5/10
 
I'm here!! 😀

I like Joyce. She's so calm. Even Faith did bad things to her, she understood and never truly hated her. I'd love see the scene when Faith found out that Joyce is dead. I think she knew, but we never got to see her reaction on the show.


I give it 9.8/10 😛

I always assumed Angel let Faith know and she wrote Buffy and Dawn a letter?
 
MinwaraYana
MinwaraYana
Probably. :)
Neat to see the Mayor again if only for a short while! I was really cheering for a come back from him in this episode when I first watched season 4. Someway to bring him back into the mix, maybe not as human but some spirit form.

Cool dreaming sequence where Faith get out of the grave and yell just to wake up! Having her see the Scoobies again was nice too. She was just realizing how time had passed and how she was pretty much left alone with no one caring about her condition =/ That's one of the few times I really felt bad for her.

The scene where Buffy and Willow talk about her and she just turn around in front of them :lmao: That was greatly done! And I just loved Willow making sarcastic comments about Faith throughout that episode.

Is it me or we don't see Joyce much at all this season?? Glad to have her in a few scenes here. She stood up to Faith and you can see she knows pretty much everything that happened during last season's ending.

I didn't expect the body switch at the end! Nice twist and I only realized it when she said five by five :lmao:
 
I just rewatched it and realized it was a jab at the viewers, too. Like the Scoobies, we all (well, most of us...) forgot about Faith. And then she shows up, being all, "You put me in a COMA and don't even think about me?" There was a lot of pain there.
I also totally understand her being upset about Riley. I mean, Buffy tried to kill Faith so save Angel and wakes up to what seems to be Buffy having totally moved on. 🙁
 
It was a very nice episode. It is interesting that although we see a psychotic Faith ready to do anything, deep inside the downfall has began. She feels lonely, she feels deserted by the Scoobies and most of all Buffy who wanted to give feed her to Angel and now she has Riley. Anyway, although the Mayor has been evil I really admire the fact that he never stopped thinking of Faith and helped her even though noone knew if she was gonna wake up.

After these two episodes Faithy goes to Angel for another two amazing episodes. 🙂
 
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