Buffy the Vampire Slayer sequel series nearing pilot order at Hulu, SMG returning!

[hoponlilmama]

I wonder if we might see Oz back. Seth said he wished he'd been contacted about the Audible drama last year because he would've done it, and he's also still close to Sarah. She has done tons of uncredited voicework for him on Robot Chicken.

I reckon with Sarah on board, he'd be a definite yes.
Oh my, the prospect of an Oz/Willow reunion! 😍

 

[NotASlayer]

I reckon with Sarah on board, he'd be a definite yes.
Oh my, the prospect of an Oz/Willow reunion! 😍

A lot of the cast seem to get along with each other; it may help that so many of them were treated badly by Joss. So I could see a lot of them coming back. AH is one of those who I would be more uncertain about. It would help if we knew whether the Willow hinted at being in season two of Slayers was going to be played by her. Or if that was just a teaser in the hope she would come back.

 

[hoponlilmama]

A lot of the cast seem to get along with each other; it may help that so many of them were treated badly by Joss. So I could see a lot of them coming back. AH is one of those who I would be more uncertain about. It would help if we knew whether the Willow hinted at being in season two of Slayers was going to be played by her. Or if that was just a teaser in the hope she would come back.

That's true. Guess we'll have to wait and see!

 

[Btvs fan]

That's true. Guess we'll have to wait and see!

At the end of the day it's gonna come down the writing. Having nostalgia bait with old Buffy cast guest appearances is great at first but it's gonna be the new characters and there stories and whether they are worth anything that's gonna count.

I hope it is otherwise it'll be a JJ Abrams/Dave Filoni esq show

 

[hoponlilmama]

At the end of the day it's gonna come down the writing. Having nostalgia bait with old Buffy cast guest appearances is great at first but it's gonna be the new characters and there stories and whether they are worth anything that's gonna count.

I hope it is otherwise it'll be a JJ Abrams/Dave Filoni esq show

Definitely, the writing/stories presented are the most important, but you can't deny that having some of the original cast appearing to be a strong drawcard.

May just be the occasional cameo every couple of episodes.

 

[Fuffy Baith]

NB you can basically exclude, Alyson might be on board, as might ASH. Eliza is retired from acting. We may need to have an AU if we want to see Cordy and Anya. I'd love to see Oz and Riley back.

The biggest hurdle here is Angel and Spike - first off, the actors have aged and can't play immortal beings (please God, no poor excuses like, 'drinking animal blood has aged them'). And second, my concern is if they somehow work out a way to bring them on the show, the focus is going to be another shipping war, and I don't want the series (original or new) reduced to, "Oooh, who does Buffy pick!?"

If SMG is more of a guest role, there might not be such a push to have cast members from the original series to appear.

Yeah I don't really want to see the whole cast back. That feels shoehorned and member berries. This new show should stand on it own as a new cast of characters that just happens to take place in the Buffyverse. SMG has to come back as Buffy, but more of a cameo role, mentor, the legendary Buffy, type role. Maybe Alyson as Willow, but only if it makes sense to the story. I don't think anyone wants to work with NB so no Xander, or recast. I would maybe like to see Giles in an older role, maybe reforming the Watchers Council, but again a cameo role. I would love for Eliza to come back as Faith, as maybe she would consider it for a special appearance.

 

[AlphaFoxtrot]

Eh, drunks can become sober and trophy wives can send the kids to the home country for the week. What I'm concerned about is, did they get the TV specific IP rights? Or do they just have the rights for Buffy?

 

[Cohen]

Buffy’s Sarah Michelle Gellar Weighs In on Potential Hulu Sequel Series, Assures Fans ‘This Will Be for You’

'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' star Sarah Michelle Gellar is giving fans her own perspective on the show's potential revival at Hulu — read her statement.

tvline.com

Statement from Sarah. This makes me even more excited!

 

[famicommander]

Eh, drunks can become sober and trophy wives can send the kids to the home country for the week. What I'm concerned about is, did they get the TV specific IP rights? Or do they just have the rights for Buffy?

What are you even talking about? The entirety of the IP was previously owned by 20th Century Fox. Disney bought 20th Century Fox and they own Hulu too. There are no IP conflicts whatsoever.

 

[garfan]

What are you even talking about? The entirety of the IP was previously owned by 20th Century Fox. Disney bought 20th Century Fox and they own Hulu too. There are no IP conflicts whatsoever.

there were rumors that the people who made the Buffy movie had some rights that would have allowed them to make a show, but not with Willow, Xander, Giles, etc. and I think that led into theorizing why Merrick and Pike were never even name dropped

 

[famicommander]

there were rumors that the people who made the Buffy movie had some rights that would have allowed them to make a show, but not with Willow, Xander, Giles, etc. and I think that led into theorizing why Merrick and Pike were never even name dropped

Merrick showed up on screen on the show and the movie, as did Buffy's parents.

The fact that the Kuzuis and Dolly Parton (producers on both the movie and the show) and Gail Berman (producer on the show) are back would be a pretty obvious indicator that there are no rights issues.

Also, with the recent Audible drama they were able to use the whole cast without issue despite no involvement from the guy who created most of those characters (Whedon).

 

[garfan]

Merrick showed up on screen on the show and the movie, as did Buffy's parents.

Merrick wasn't named in the show, and Buffy's parents weren't named in the movie

 

[famicommander]

Merrick wasn't named in the show, and Buffy's parents weren't named in the movie

20th Century was able to license all of the characters to Amber Benson and Christopher Golden for the Slayers audio drama. Boom (and Dark Horse and IDW before them) were able to use all the TV characters in comics. The book publishers seem free and clear to use all of the characters.

It makes absolutely no sense that 20th Century wouldn't have access to all the characters. They were the studio behind both the film and the TV series in conjunction with Sand Dollar, who is also back. Disney ultimately owns 20th Century Fox, the Buffy movie, the Buffy TV series, and the streaming service this revival would be airing on.

 

[TheMaster666]

Crap. Yet another classic falls victim to the re-do-over bullshit.

First of all, SMG is teen/young adult Buffy. I really don't want to see an old SMG doing an Obi-Wan Kenobi, especially not after her cosmetic surgery where she's not even recognizable anymore. Secondly, c'mon, when has a recent remake/reboot ever not been a disaster? I'm waiting.

Buffy was something special because it was innovative, interesting, narratively compelling, and written by talented writers with a fantastic cast. They knew what they had in mind, and were driven to succeed.

Even the "girl power" concept is something so 90s. At that point in time we had only really seen males as the action movie stars. Females were almost invariably love interests, or damsels in distress, or sidekicks. (Even the 80s show Remington Steele which featured a female as the lead private investigator had its entire premise built around the fact that nobody took her seriously so she had to invent a fake male superior who sounded macho to attract clients).

But the 90s / early 00s had Buffy, Xena, Agent Scully, Kill Bill, Charlie's Angels,* etc. It was the era of the badass woman. Even the Simpsons, which didn't have "badasses" per se, had Lisa as the intellectual and Marge as the reliable, sensible parental foundation for the family. This was in contrast to the "Father Knows Best" and "Leave it to Beaver" 50s patriarchal nuclear families Matt Groening was raised on.

* (Yeah I know Charlie's Angels was originally a 70s tv series, but its original incarnation was, let's face it, mostly male eye candy. They're like The Runaways of crime fighting. Farah Fawcett was literally the pin-up girl of the era.)


My point is, doing that sort of female empowerment character was timely at that point in time, because it was a direct rebellion against the kind of male-dominated heroes in Hollywood prior to that, and it also reflected an evolving society in general.

But in today's world? It's the opposite. We have nothing but stupid identity politics gender-flipping even characters who it makes zero sense to be a woman, (e.g. Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, etc.) or making the male star of the show seem feeble, feckless, and stupid next to the Mary Sue woman who is amazing at everything.* Likewise, we have a mainstream culture in real life today that exults everything female and bashes traditional masculinity. So much so, that some men have, in desperation for finding real manhood, found solace in the company of the Andrew Tates of the world, which is unfortunate as he is an actual unabashed misogynist.

*(One could argue Buffy's Slayer powers are a kind of Mary Sue and Xander was a fool. But Xander was brilliant comic relief, and nobody had to put Xander down to bring Buffy up. Nor does Buffy just breeze through life without challenges; on the contrary, she faces nothing but hardships, even with Slayer powers.)


In the contemporary environment, the braver and more literarily ambitious move to do is the traditional approach. The once culture is now the counter-culture; as the once counter-culture is now the culture. We need more macho men in characters. We don't need fewer women badasses, but we do need strong male role models back again.

Of course, this is all being entirely far too generous. Nobody involved with remakes or reboots since like 2013 has the slightest interest in making good movies/tv. It's all just studio-pushed nostalgia-bait that's an easy formula to re-sell to new groups of teens and irresistible clickbait for old fans. And this is Disney we're talking about. Disney are such massive pimps, whoring out their purchased franchises, they managed to succeed in making Star Wars seem undesirable and lame. How do you mess up Star Wars?! They made a Doctor Who reboot of the reboot so appallingly terrible, it made Chris Chibnall's offensively bad era actually seem half-decent by comparison!

TL;DR I hope this crashes and burns and gets cancelled before it ever gets made. But if it does release, and I'm sure it will as everyone and their mother gets a remake nowadays, I'll ignore it like the rest of the herd of abominations.

Edit: Turns out Joss Whedon wasn't even consulted about this. They consulted the leading actress, who has zero influence on the actual content of the program, but not the visionary creator and showrunner. Wow. George Lucas at least got to share his ideas for Episode 7 before they were immediately ignored. Buffy is not just Joss' baby but his crown jewel, his magnum opus. It is really sad these vultures get to pick apart his child for a bit more dough and they don't even have the decency to ask for his blessing, let alone his involvement or permission.

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I admire your optimism and I do hope it is good, but is Hulu not owned or a part of Disney? If so I wouldn't crack open a bottle of champagne yet.

I do think that a remake could be good, as the idea of Buffy is a really strong one, lot's of amazing characters, stories, lore, monsters to play around with and it would be interesting see it in a modern environment.

However in the current climate? Jesus Christ no. I have 0 faith again in those parasites at Disney doing anything interesting with it.

The fact that this is a direct sequel also depresses me too. This gives these parasites a chance to actually mess up the story of the original which, all things considered had a really good ending. Also how are you going to bring Spike and Angel back? Both actors have aged well, but they're not actual vampires. Plus Xander not to be insensitive has his problems and couldn't possibly return?

To me the best option would have been adapting Fray, which is set in the far future of the Buffyverse and therefore wouldn't need any of the cast back, other than the odd flashback, but this is the worst of all worlds.

Sigh the list of series that haven't been tainted by rubbish sequels and remakes in the 21st century is shrinking. Doctor Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, must we add Buffy to that list? Thank god Blake's 7 and Xena haven't been tampered with...... yet.

I think Spike sums up what most fans feel about reviving Buffy in the toxic, identity politics driven, tribal era of entertainment.

Exactly. This ^

 

[Btvs fan]

Crap. Yet another classic falls victim to the re-do-over bullshit.

First of all, SMG is teen/young adult Buffy. I really don't want to see an old SMG doing an Obi-Wan Kenobi, especially not after her cosmetic surgery where she's not even recognizable anymore. Secondly, c'mon, when has a recent remake/reboot ever not been a disaster? I'm waiting.

Buffy was something special because it was innovative, interesting, narratively compelling, and written by talented writers with a fantastic cast. They knew what they had in mind, and were driven to succeed.

Even the "girl power" concept is something so 90s. At that point in time we had only really seen males as the action movie stars. Females were almost invariably love interests, or damsels in distress, or sidekicks. (Even the 80s show Remington Steele which featured a female as the lead private investigator had its entire premise built around the fact that nobody took her seriously so she had to invent a fake male superior who sounded macho to attract clients).

But the 90s / early 00s had Buffy, Xena, Agent Scully, Kill Bill, Charlie's Angels,* etc. It was the era of the badass woman. Even the Simpsons, which didn't have "badasses" per se, had Lisa as the intellectual and Marge as the reliable, sensible parental foundation for the family. This was in contrast to the "Father Knows Best" and "Leave it to Beaver" 50s patriarchal nuclear families Matt Groening was raised on.

* (Yeah I know Charlie's Angels was originally a 70s tv series, but its original incarnation was, let's face it, mostly male eye candy. They're like The Runaways of crime fighting. Farah Fawcett was literally the pin-up girl of the era.)


My point is, doing that sort of female empowerment character was timely at that point in time, because it was a direct rebellion against the kind of male-dominated heroes in Hollywood prior to that, and it also reflected an evolving society in general.

But in today's world? It's the opposite. We have nothing but stupid identity politics gender-flipping even characters who it makes zero sense to be a woman, (e.g. Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, etc.) or making the male star of the show seem feeble, feckless, and stupid next to the Mary Sue woman who is amazing at everything.* Likewise, we have a mainstream culture in real life today that exults everything female and bashes traditional masculinity. So much so, that some men have, in desperation for finding real manhood, found solace in the company of the Andrew Tates of the world, which is unfortunate as he is an actual unabashed misogynist.

*(One could argue Buffy's Slayer powers are a kind of Mary Sue and Xander was a fool. But Xander was brilliant comic relief, and nobody had to put Xander down to bring Buffy up. Nor does Buffy just breeze through life without challenges; on the contrary, she faces nothing but hardships, even with Slayer powers.)


In the contemporary environment, the braver and more literarily ambitious move to do is the traditional approach. The once culture is now the counter-culture; as the once counter-culture is now the culture. We need more macho men in characters. We don't need fewer women badasses, but we do need strong male role models back again.

Of course, this is all being entirely far too generous. Nobody involved with remakes or reboots since like 2013 has the slightest interest in making good movies/tv. It's all just studio-pushed nostalgia-bait that's an easy formula to re-sell to new groups of teens and irresistible clickbait for old fans. And this is Disney we're talking about. Disney are such massive pimps, whoring out their purchased franchises, they managed to succeed in making Star Wars seem undesirable and lame. How do you mess up Star Wars?! They made a Doctor Who reboot of the reboot so appallingly terrible, it made Chris Chibnall's offensively bad era actually seem half-decent by comparison!

TL;DR I hope this crashes and burns and gets cancelled before it ever gets made. But if it does release, and I'm sure it will as everyone and their mother gets a remake nowadays, I'll ignore it like the rest of the herd of abominations.

Edit: Turns out Joss Whedon wasn't even consulted about this. They consulted the leading actress, who has zero influence on the actual content of the program, but not the visionary creator and showrunner. Wow. George Lucas at least got to share his ideas for Episode 7 before they were immediately ignored. Buffy is not just Joss' baby but his crown jewel, his magnum opus. It is really sad these vultures get to pick apart his child for a bit more dough and they don't even have the decency to ask for his blessing, let alone his involvement or permission.

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Exactly. This ^

Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor were both before Buffy. Hell Aliens had multiple female characters that were tough like Vasquez.

I agree with you on this bit. Bob Iger admitted in his book that they brought Lucas Sequel Treatments simply so he couldn't film them and he and Disney had no intention of listening to his ideas. They wanted to do Rebellion v Empire and that was it. It's why JJ Abrams was brought in. He'd done it before with Star Trek and he did it with Starwars. It's why TFA is ANH redone. While there most popular TV show was a guy dressed up like Boba Fett with a Baby Yoda toy. Again pure nostalgia bait.

Joss Whedon already did that with the Comics. Hell he already did it with the show itself. He's admitted he had a 5 Yr plan and those last 2 years on UPN were simply because they threw him a load of cash. So let's not pretend Whedon is the auteur who doesn't care about the money.

 

[Cohen]

Joss Whedon already did that with the Comics. Hell he already did it with the show itself. He's admitted he had a 5 Yr plan and those last 2 years on UPN were simply because they threw him a load of cash. So let's not pretend Whedon is the auteur who doesn't care about the money.

Edit: Turns out Joss Whedon wasn't even consulted about this. They consulted the leading actress, who has zero influence on the actual content of the program, but not the visionary creator and showrunner. Wow. George Lucas at least got to share his ideas for Episode 7 before they were immediately ignored. Buffy is not just Joss' baby but his crown jewel, his magnum opus. It is really sad these vultures get to pick apart his child for a bit more dough and they don't even have the decency to ask for his blessing, let alone his involvement or permission.

Let’s remember that Sarah had issue with the points of seasons 6 & 7 that are consistently brought up as the worst part of the series. Sarah did NOT want the Spuffy romance, and certainly not the SA in Seeing Red. She liked the first third of the seventh season, and did not like how the character was then back pedaled on development for the latter two-thirds of the season. And is a main influence of ending the show, instead of coming back for an eighth season.

It’s also why she would not sign on for a revival or sequel movie for the last 22 years.

While Joss envisioned the character, Sarah lived Buffy. She was never seen as someone who understood the character, and even her husband has commented upon how she was treated on that set. Joss “knew all” and refused to listen to his star and, at times, his writers.

I will admit that there have been authors who have been given the Buffy license, and did what they thought was Buffy-ish, by Hyperion/Disney and they mostly flopped. I’ve read both the Chosen novels, and the sequel trilogy. I’ve also read the Alternate universe novel. And they all miss the mark.

But they were also missing input from someone who was a part of the original magic.

I started the Cordelia series, written by Golden and Benson. Golden was one of the best Buffy novelists, and Benson always understood Tara’s character. And it worked. It was critically acclaimed. It’s got 4.5 stars out of nearly 3,000 reviews on Audible, which is pretty good. And most of the negative reviews are mainly about the format.

To be honest I put it down because I don’t love audio dramas. But I’m also a visual-kinesthetic person so I have always had issues focusing on long form audio storytelling. Even though I love long form true crime podcasts, I still get lost during hour-long episodes, and especially over a season dedicated to one case.

My points being that… it seems a little early to be negative about the potential series. We know nothing about it other than Sarah has signed off on it, and it’s being led by some talented writers and producers.


And do we really have to bring her looks into whether or not she can come back to tv? She did great as a supporting character in Wolf Pack. From what I hear, she’s done a great job on the Dexter prequel. And I think she can successfully come back in a mentor role to a new slayer.

Personally, I’m hoping the slayer line ended up correcting itself after Willow’s spell, and brought back the order and balance by stripping the potentials’ of their slayer powers, possibly including Buffy and Faith, and after lying dormant for a decade, this new slayer is the first called in 10 years, setting up the perfect scenario of having to fight back the evil that’s had a decade to build back up. Buffy can come in to help train the new slayer, as she’s the only former slayer that had to learn the ropes of saving the world solo.

A story like this honors the legacy of the original series, but sets up the new series to be a world of its own.

What will make it suck is if they rely on CGI demons, as mentioned in this thread previously, and if the showrunners don’t have a true concept of what they want to say. The reason why Buffy worked was because it was multidimensional. And the new story has to have something to say. Or it will suck.

And I’m not necessarily talking about “woke” ideology here. I know a lot of people on this board abscond when legacy shows tip too liberal. This series needs a balance. Buffy talked about liberal concepts (for the late 90s/00s) in a way that wasn’t preachy.

The first 5 seasons had social commentary that wasn’t overtly in your face. It was full of powerful metaphor that reflected the values that the writers wanted to showcase.

This new series needs to lean into that, and not be preachy. One of the many things that failed the Charmed reboot, for example, was that the first episode literally preached at us about what feminists should look like. The mouthy lesbian. The genius female scientist. The empathetic sorority sister. We were talked at, instead of shown feminism through the girl power that saved innocents.

The heart of the original wasn’t there.

What this potential new series has going for it is that Sarah IS involved. She isn’t cashing in on the show. And she won’t help produce it unless it is rooted in what made Buffy must-watch television.

The wit. The dialogue. The drama. And the acting.

Many shows today have cast terrible actors and actresses. You don’t feel immersed in television because there are SO many projects, you don’t have to really hone your craft to land a job.

Sarah enjoyed playing the mentor role, both as a character and as an actress, on Wolf Pack. And there were many flaws to that show. The main one being that it took 10 episodes to tell an origin story that should have been, at max, two episodes.

I think Sarah has learned from that. She sees what didn’t work. But she also saw what did work. A few of those actors had the chops. She was just getting back into the acting scene and she needed to stretch herself some.

We’re getting a re-seasoned Sarah for this show, and I think that’s going to work for our advantage. There’s heaps of revivals and reboots that the showrunners can learn from. They can see the mistakes that were made, and should be able to successfully navigate away from them.

I’m excited to see what comes out of this. We have a really good shot of having lightning in a bottle. Again.

Let’s not close the curtain before the stage has even been built.

 

[Btvs fan]

Let’s remember that Sarah had issue with the points of seasons 6 & 7 that are consistently brought up as the worst part of the series. Sarah did NOT want the Spuffy romance, and certainly not the SA in Seeing Red. She liked the first third of the seventh season, and did not like how the character was then back pedaled on development for the latter two-thirds of the season. And is a main influence of ending the show, instead of coming back for an eighth season.

It’s also why she would not sign on for a revival or sequel movie for the last 22 years.

While Joss envisioned the character, Sarah lived Buffy. She was never seen as someone who understood the character, and even her husband has commented upon how she was treated on that set. Joss “knew all” and refused to listen to his star and, at times, his writers.

I will admit that there have been authors who have been given the Buffy license, and did what they thought was Buffy-ish, by Hyperion/Disney and they mostly flopped. I’ve read both the Chosen novels, and the sequel trilogy. I’ve also read the Alternate universe novel. And they all miss the mark.

But they were also missing input from someone who was a part of the original magic.

I started the Cordelia series, written by Golden and Benson. Golden was one of the best Buffy novelists, and Benson always understood Tara’s character. And it worked. It was critically acclaimed. It’s got 4.5 stars out of nearly 3,000 reviews on Audible, which is pretty good. And most of the negative reviews are mainly about the format.

To be honest I put it down because I don’t love audio dramas. But I’m also a visual-kinesthetic person so I have always had issues focusing on long form audio storytelling. Even though I love long form true crime podcasts, I still get lost during hour-long episodes, and especially over a season dedicated to one case.

My points being that… it seems a little early to be negative about the potential series. We know nothing about it other than Sarah has signed off on it, and it’s being led by some talented writers and producers.


And do we really have to bring her looks into whether or not she can come back to tv? She did great as a supporting character in Wolf Pack. From what I hear, she’s done a great job on the Dexter prequel. And I think she can successfully come back in a mentor role to a new slayer.

Personally, I’m hoping the slayer line ended up correcting itself after Willow’s spell, and brought back the order and balance by stripping the potentials’ of their slayer powers, possibly including Buffy and Faith, and after lying dormant for a decade, this new slayer is the first called in 10 years, setting up the perfect scenario of having to fight back the evil that’s had a decade to build back up. Buffy can come in to help train the new slayer, as she’s the only former slayer that had to learn the ropes of saving the world solo.

A story like this honors the legacy of the original series, but sets up the new series to be a world of its own.

What will make it suck is if they rely on CGI demons, as mentioned in this thread previously, and if the showrunners don’t have a true concept of what they want to say. The reason why Buffy worked was because it was multidimensional. And the new story has to have something to say. Or it will suck.

And I’m not necessarily talking about “woke” ideology here. I know a lot of people on this board abscond when legacy shows tip too liberal. This series needs a balance. Buffy talked about liberal concepts (for the late 90s/00s) in a way that wasn’t preachy.

The first 5 seasons had social commentary that wasn’t overtly in your face. It was full of powerful metaphor that reflected the values that the writers wanted to showcase.

This new series needs to lean into that, and not be preachy. One of the many things that failed the Charmed reboot, for example, was that the first episode literally preached at us about what feminists should look like. The mouthy lesbian. The genius female scientist. The empathetic sorority sister. We were talked at, instead of shown feminism through the girl power that saved innocents.

The heart of the original wasn’t there.

What this potential new series has going for it is that Sarah IS involved. She isn’t cashing in on the show. And she won’t help produce it unless it is rooted in what made Buffy must-watch television.

The wit. The dialogue. The drama. And the acting.

Many shows today have cast terrible actors and actresses. You don’t feel immersed in television because there are SO many projects, you don’t have to really hone your craft to land a job.

Sarah enjoyed playing the mentor role, both as a character and as an actress, on Wolf Pack. And there were many flaws to that show. The main one being that it took 10 episodes to tell an origin story that should have been, at max, two episodes.

I think Sarah has learned from that. She sees what didn’t work. But she also saw what did work. A few of those actors had the chops. She was just getting back into the acting scene and she needed to stretch herself some.

We’re getting a re-seasoned Sarah for this show, and I think that’s going to work for our advantage. There’s heaps of revivals and reboots that the showrunners can learn from. They can see the mistakes that were made, and should be able to successfully navigate away from them.

I’m excited to see what comes out of this. We have a really good shot of having lightning in a bottle. Again.

Let’s not close the curtain before the stage has even been built.

I agree and at the end of the day what's the worst that can happen. That it's not a good show oh well. It deserves a chance.

I see David Boreanaz has wish SMG luck on this

 

[famicommander]

Secondly, c'mon, when has a recent remake/reboot ever not been a disaster? I'm waiting.

First of all, this is a sequel and not a remake nor a reboot. But to answer your question:

Cobra Kai is much better than the 2nd through 5th Karate Kid films, and arguably better than the original movie itself.

The new Denis Villeneuve Dune films are considerably better than David Lynch's 1984 abomination or John Harrison's 2000 TV miniseries. You may not count this since they're all adaptations of the original novel and not necessarily remakes of each other, but still.

Mike Judge's Beavis and Butt-Head revival has been fantastic for two seasons and a movie and has been renewed for another season. The original series ended in 1997, then they had one comeback season in 2011, and it was dormant for 11 more years.

The Wynonna Earp movie that just released was considerably better than the messy final season of the show.

The seventh and final season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars came out six years after the sixth season and it was fantastic.

Blade Runner 2049 came out 35 years after the original and it was great.

TMNT: Mutant Mayhem was orders of magnitude better than the Michael Bay films that preceded it and also better than the previous animated theatrical effort from 2007.

The Creed trilogy began 11 years after the final Rocky film, which itself came out 16 years after Rocky V, and all four of the later entries were much better received than Rocky III, IV, or V.

Superman and Lois is so much better than Supergirl, Smallville, Lois and Clark, 1988 Superboy, or the old 50s Adventures of Superman show it's hard to even describe in words.

 

[Taake]

I thought SMG’s message was nice and saying it is for the fans, gives me hope for what they have planned!

Seeing that Chloe Zhao produced The Eternals though…

My one concern is for them to find a balance between old fans and new fans. You can’t rely only on old fans after all. That 90s Show recently tried that and managed to do neither. While new Charmed and new Roswell completely aimed for new audiences. It is tricky.

At least it isn’t on Netflix, I don’t know if Hulu is the same, but it feels like Netflix would definitely give it enough time to start getting good and then cancel it just like that.

Like any show it’ll surely have some growing pains, so hopefully it’ll get the chance to!

 

[Btvs fan]

The seventh and final season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars came out six years after the sixth season and it was fantastic.

I'd disagree slightly there. It was basically 3 different arcs. The 1st was the Bad Batch, which was done to set up the spin off. It wasn't bad but I wouldn't say it was great either. Just OK.
The 2nd was the Martez Sisters Arc that was so bad its considered not only the worst of the season but also the worst of the show.
The 3rd The Mandalore Arc was genuinely good though it does have some holes on a rewatch and the fact that Dave Filoni literally invented time travel and AU in Starwars simply to keep this character alive when she should not be.

I thought SMG’s message was nice and saying it is for the fans, gives me hope for what they have planned!

Seeing that Chloe Zhao produced The Eternals though…

My one concern is for them to find a balance between old fans and new fans. You can’t rely only on old fans after all. That 90s Show recently tried that and managed to do neither. While new Charmed and new Roswell completely aimed for new audiences. It is tricky.

At least it isn’t on Netflix, I don’t know if Hulu is the same, but it feels like Netflix would definitely give it enough time to start getting good and then cancel it just like that.

Like any show it’ll surely have some growing pains, so hopefully it’ll get the chance to!

To be fair before the Buffy show, Whedon was the guy who'd done The panned Buffy Movie (which he blamed on Donald Sutherland even though he was the beat thing in it) and Alien Resurrection (which he blamed on Studio interference yet his original script is really not that different and still awful) so she could surprise you